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Reinstating the gin deck from a previous bus for AF arrivals, and stocking up on pineapple juice and Brazil nuts, fx for lots of BFPs this month.

Don't worry about it mummy some people on MN can be very arsey without providing anything remotely useful to a thread. I'm glad it's not like that on here!

Oh wow that's such fab news so pleased for *Sparkly
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Mummy *my older two ds are 10 & 9 and they still don't really understand what sex is. Ds1 has even had sex ed at school but he didn't get it he just thinks vagina and penis are funny words They have said sex on occasion but usually when referring to the cows on minecraft

Phew Beautician! Thanks for saying that - there was me thinking I had protected him too much! He knows babies come out of the vagina – he knows that he has a willy and testicles and girls have vaginas and breasts. He knows the woman has an egg and the man has a seed and together they can make a baby. It’s the mechanical side of things he doesn’t know – nor has he asked questions on yet.

I imagine that most children will have asked the question mummy so if your son hasn't I really wouldn't worry. Sounds like you have covered off a lot of the major stuff already! And now you have explained sex so mostly there :)

Some of the books suggested explain the mechanics of where the willy goes?!?! Not something I really want him to know about yet!

If he knows about vaginas then presumably it would make sense to him and not be too much?

I don't know... He is at holiday club and I am going to reconvene tonight to see if he has any quetions or needs more information.

That sounds like a good plan :) see how much he wants to know at this stage! I guess the worry is that he will be told a load of rubbish in the playground (I remember all the rumours we used to discuss around sex) :(

That is what I worry about hence I worry where he has heard the word and how inaccurate the information may have been!

I've tried to explain the odd bit to my two and I've let them watch a small clip from one born so that they could see a baby doesn't come out of a lady's tummy as they thought. They haven't asked any questions. I just don't think they are bothered about it all yet. They aren't interested in girls and when asked if they like any girls at school their usual answer is "eww GIRLS are rubbish we will get married and worry about girls when we are really old like you". Yes thanks boys

As he confessed to not actually knowing what the word meant I think it may be more likely that he heard it in a song or a tv show!

Mummy, it sounds to me like you have done everything right. He knows all the basics & there hasn't been any need to tell him the actual mechanism yet. The general rule is that you should tell children things when they ask & your DS hasn't asked yet. I honestly wouldn't worry about what other people say. Some mums just like to feel smug & as if they are better than everyone else.

Eskimo, that is lovely. I tried on something similar recently & looked like a hideous blob, but you have the figure to carry it off

Mummy I don't really get on with strapless bras- they always seem to slip down on me; I'm not sure why

I don't think you've protected him too much. I think that children know too much too early nowadays (sounding old!) and I think that the longer they can stay in blissful ignorance, the better. If you're worried though, it's always best coming from you. Surely there are age appropriate books around on the subject? x x

Beautician aww bless them! DS when he was smaller thought every girl was his girlfriend, now he is far more embarrassed by it, he once wolf whistled a girl in school because DP does it to me, when I explained that that meant he thought she was pretty he was horrified that he had done it at school

night I hope so but I doubt it, we don't watch tv really before DS is in bed. Maybe from a song - but only listen to radio - though I think they are letting more and more to be played these days!

I did have a read of your post mummy and some of the women were so smug:

'Well Jeramiah knew all about sex from six months old, now he's writing a thesis on it'

That's not an actual quote btw people!

Thanks girls for giving me this virtual cuddle!! Parenting is so bloody hard - trying to be open and approachable but still protect your children from the world is really hard! I agree children get told things they don't need to know about far to early! The longer I can keep him ignorant the better.

Probably the radio then! They still block swear words I think but sex might get through!

Beautician, my nephew is the same. He is 8.5 & knows the facts about egg & sperm etc, but is not really interested about the rest. I think once they reach 12/13, kids start to actually think about the mechanics.
When they are little it just has no relevance for them.

What about something like this? www.amazon.co.uk/Where-Willy-Went-Nicholas-Allan/dp/0099456486/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1437568086&sr=8-2&keywords=sex+education+books+for+6+year+olds

I might even get it for my DH for some light reading

Aww, thanks Nomio. I tried it on for DH earlier and he thought it was a onesie!

Haha night yes it does feel a bit like that!! Why are parents telling their children everything they don't need to know so young? I always thought you tell children things when they bring it up too. Someones 4yo asked about sex?!?! I would have probably distracted them with a sticker or something they would have soon forgotten it!

Mummy, it sounds to me like you have the balance just right. I think you are a great mum. X

Actually, just looked at that book in a little more detail and it's about the sperm's journey, not the actual physical act. Which seem to me to suggest that little children don't need to know about that yet!

I agree with teaching children about sex (and relationships which too often get left out) but in an age appropriate manner! I can see four years olds asking where a baby comes from at which point explaining the body parts (which you have clearly done) is a good thing I think.

It's difficult though as the majority of children won't even think about having sex until well into secondary school but there are also the kids who do it far too young and how to protect them. You have to do what's right for your child though and you are the person who knows your child best :)

I like the 60s vibe eskimo. And yay for progesterone and the clomid! I am now a fan of all things medical.
DizzyN best of luck with bloods! I hope it is good news, or that the news coming from it will be good at the very least!
sparkly! Where? looks around frantically
My favourite recent thing overheard at DC nursery 'I don't have a twinkle I have a vulva!' screamed across the length of the corridor outside the loos.

But it made me think that for little kids one should rather be teaching them vulva instead of vagina in terms of differences between boys and girls if it comes up. For making babies, vagina yes, but for just what do boys have when you look at them (penis) and what do girls have (labia and vulva). That's what they mostly care about, isn't it. What they can see with their own eyes. Vaginas are decently hidden.