TTC after mc #4

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I've not been on here for a while and now this - sebs, I'm so sorry to hear about your mc. I've been thinking about you since you left the ttc #2 thread with your BFP and was just thinking the other day that you must be coming up to 12 weeks now. I can imagine how devastated you must feel. It's just so fucking unfair! x

Thanks Metal . I had a fab 9 week scan would you believe, measuring ahead of dates. It died at 11+2 for god knows what reason. I'd probably feel more pragmatic about it if I wasn't now 40. But yep, totally ducking devastated about covers it and I have to go under general to boot.

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For what it's worth, I felt physically fine after I'd had the surgery, a little cramping for a day but nothing major, and my cycles went back to normal straight away too (apart from AF being much lighter than before). When are you booked in?

That's one of the reasons I opted for an MVA over assisted. One - I wanted the baby tested. Two - I couldn't bare the emotional trauma of miscarrying naturally for the third time. Three - it takes so long to miscarry naturally and get your cycles back. I honestly don't have the time to draw the whole thing out over three or four months.

I'm going in 8am on Tuesday. My body is showing no signs that it recognises the baby died so in myself I feel fine.

I think at this late stage it's probably for the best. I passed the sac at what should've been 10 weeks and it was just horrible. Good luck on Tuesday, I hope it goes as well as can be expected. Will be thinking of you. x

I already have the bad scan image etched in my head forever let alone anything more graphic. It shocks me that they even mooted it as the preferred plan at my stage, they must want me to end up in a psychiatric ward! Thanks darling xx

Oh seb. I've been really thinking of you. Xxxx

Sebs - glad you've now been given the option of surgery. It definitely sounds like the right choice. I will be thinking of you on Tuesday. Sending you a big un-mumsnetty hug Going from a healthy 9 week scan to such heartbreaking news at 12 weeks sounds like anyone's worst nightmare. It's just so very unfair.

Lots of hand holding seb … I found that having it over and done with quickly was definitely better when it's not happening naturally or quickly. Just be warned though that because it's a quick process I definitely felt an hormonal and emotional crash over the next week or so compared to a natural mc. I'm also struggling with still getting a bfp....I'm terrified that means my cycle won't kick in anytime soon. Still on balance I'm confident with the decision we made.
We'll all be thinking of you on Tuesday

Thanks girls. They reckon it will take 6 weeks post surgery for the hormone to no longer be present. That feels such a long way away!!

sebs it's such a difficult decision to make however I hope you're feeling a little calmer having made one. That's interesting what they have told you re. Hormones, there is so much conflicting advice. I was about 10 wks when I had the ERPC for my first mmc however baby stopped growing at 5 ish weeks. I didn't ever take a pg test but I conceived my daughter and got the BFP just over 4 wks after the op so must have been pretty much back to normal. This time I also found out at 12 wk scan (baby 8 wks) but by the tme I had the med mgt that worked I was what would have been 14 wks. 4 wks on I'm still getting a faint pos test, EPU have said wait another week. I'm waffling but my point is they give you a few 'deadlines' but really when it comes to if there are no rules and everyone's body is different.

Just a quick woop woop for north's bfp. Congratulations!!

How is everyone today?

Hope you're hanging in there sebsmummy I went to the pictures to try to keep my mind off things the weekend things were going wrong last time.

I'm still with gammy eye and have a sore throat now too. Generally feeling a bit off and knicker watch has started.

I'm not looking forward to going back to work tomorrow after a weeks break.

Any good news or happier people out there?

Greedy were are you in your cycle? Sorry to hear you are still rough

Sebsmummy. Nothing to help but you are very much in my thoughts right now.

I am exhausted and emotional and think I'm already out this month after some very odd and confusing opk stuff going on this month. Sigh.

Romeo I also got my first AF pretty quickly after my first (natural) miscarriage. It took that AF and some mild cramping that released some tissue, for me to test negative finally. I think it was probably about 5 weeks later. I'm hoping with the surgical route I will get a BFN quicker but who knows.

I'm ok thank you. Struggling obviously but taking it a day at a time.

What opk stuff chasing?
I tried them for a couple of days. Got a positive on Friday but still have ewcm today. It used to be so easy to identify ovulation and now I have 8 days of ewcm per month and no idea.

Guy I've just copied this over from the Feb bus as i'm getting hand cramp from phone typing keeping up with both

...completely confused and finding this cycle exhausting. I usually take notes every day of my cycle of any minor changes etc as they can build a good picture by the end. I decided to be relaxed and not do that this month, having had two perfect 28 day cycles with cd14 ovulation. I'd only got a few opks left- enough to confirm ov and that was as much as I'd planned to do.

Well. Cd9 I had a positive smiley face. I didn't believe it and did another 2 hrs later which was neg (though now I'm understanding they only work with fmu) this massively threw me and so I disregarded it as a false surge... but I am kicking myself for not testing cd8.

I ran out and bought more tests and have just had yet another negative cd14, argh!! And the lines on the stick. . There's barely any 2nd line so it doesn't even look like I'm building up to ov. I'm twitchy with some mild and sporadic dull achey pain. But really not much. I've felt on off things on my left hand side for couple of days and hoped this was a good indicator. Literally no cm at all until just this second when I've wiped and found the good ewcm stretchy stuff (that's right isn't it? )

I don't understand this at all. If I did ov vvvv early I've probably missed it as we dtd cd7, cd 10,12&13 so far. I don't know why but my app on my phone (v basic) has me down to ov cd15 (tomo) ... but right now I just don't know what's going on. I'm either unwittingly already in the 2ww with little chance of pregnancy, or further from my 2ww with not ovulating at all yet, or possibly not even at all this cycle .. or my perfect 28 day cycle has gone to shit for some reason.

chasing I think you should have it covered. If you ovd cd9 you dtd 7 and 10, so some sperm waiting plus a 'top up'. Then if its today cd 14, 12 and 13 were good. I didn't dtd on ov day in any of my pregnancies.

Im cd25. I think I ovulated early (need to read back). So AF due officially tuesday. I've never had the urge to test early until now but only have 1 so don't want to 'waste' it.

Ooh ooh ohh. Test tomorrow morning! !! How you feeling about this cycle?

I guess I'm worrying that I won't get a positive opk at all or it'll happen really late. .. I've been waiting four months for this cycle and now it feels like it'd all falling apart :-(

I don't know - I don't track or dtd for the sake of ttc - we just do it when we feel like it (and aren't tired or going to be interrupted). So no clue if we are in with a chance. I feel a bit nauseous now im thinking about it, but that could be the cold. I'll wait til Wednesday at the earliest.

I know you've been waiting for what seems like ever after the methotrexate. Fx for you.

Seb I was so sorry to read your news, I would agree that surgery seems a good option for you. My natural spontaneous mc was at 9wks and that was hard enough to get through physically. Finding out in the way you did, having to wait it out now really would be so psychologically distressing.

Chasing and Guy, sorry to hear about your cycles playing tricks on you. I am completely in the dark this cycle. I have loads of opks but decided just to go for it without testing as the window of possibility seemed so wide. Now wishing I had some idea of when ov might be. I had a small amount of ewcm with a tiny bit of blood on CD20 which would fit in with my pre-pg cycle of 32-36 days and make me due AF any day now. But as my post-mc wft cycle was 62 days and I had 2 lots of ewcm, who knows what this one will be. We dtd on CD19,21,24&27 so I guess I am in the running but I don't feel remotely pg.

snoopy are you still around? How are you? Been thinking about you.

And stocking, how's things with dh?

Hi everyone, hope I can join you.

I came across this thread while reading up over the weekend and you've already been really helpful with getting my head round all the confusing information out there!

Was very excited find out I was pregnant on Friday 13th (so much for my luck I guess) but started spotting at 5 weeks and now miscarrying.

This was my first pregnancy so im basically clueless! The EPAGU said to test again on Friday and let them know. I guess the best result would be a bfn meaning I could brace myself for the WTF cycle (thanks for the heads up on that one!) and then hopefully get back to normalish.

Wishing you all the best!

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