O Come all ye Viroids, joyful and triumphant. Deck the halls with Contraband. All I want for Christmas is a BFP! Just Shag all the way (no36)

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Ladies, Fred title says it all; we are the ones who shag as much as our men can cope with in order to get upduffed without the stress of scientific whatnots!

Fred rules (copied and adapted from previous Fred)

1. Thou shalt shag as much as humanly possible in order to get upduffed.
2. Thou shalt not partake of OPKs, temping, or charting.
3. Thou shalt keep symptom spotting to a minimum.
4. Thou shalt share with your fredmates where needed.

JSing lingo

ERTD = Evil Red Tide of Dooooooommmmmmm. Or AF to most others. Also know as 'the witch', 'bitch witch' and 'that one with the red shiny convertible'

Viroid = This is you, dear poster. This is from the first JS thread when someone tried to type 'ladies' and it autocorrected to 'Viroids' - so there you go!

Pant snot = Egg white cervical mucus.

Doing a kitten = Getting upduffed soon after joining (warning: may induce envy in other posters).

POAS = Pee On A Stick (of the pregnancy detecting kind, not from a tree). Also known as PIAR (Pee In A Ramekin - cos we're posh birds innit). Or PIATLH (Tea light holder) PIAWG (Wine glass) or anything else you care to pee in! PONF = Pee on Nigel Farage. Self explanatory, who wouldn't?

ROC - Receptacle of Choice - what one chooses to use for the task of POAS. Option decorations include photographs of political leaders.

JIAC = Jizz in a Cup. Preferable to jizz on the carpet or jizz in the eye. This one's for the lucky men in our lives.

Shagging like something = JSing like a teenage nymphomaniac.

Giving a hooya = Giving a much needed slap to a fellow poster in danger of slipping into ttc obsession. Warning - this may happen to you if you start trying to POAS at 5dpo. PUT. THE. PISSY. STICK. DOWN. IT'S TOO EARLY!

Contraband = Of COURSE none of us EVER partake of any silly OPKs or temp charting. They are Contraband.

Icing = ovulating. Another autocorrect development!

Getting your Cape on = planning some serious pouncing on DH/DP

TWOT - Two Weeks of Torture. AKA Schroedinging!
TWPU - Two Week Piss Up!

Keeping your gingers = fingers crossed, yet another autocorrect development! Shortened to 'gx'

Doing A lemon = Testing WAAAAAAAY to early!

The link to Part 35 is here

The current Grads Fred is here

The rather nobbish article in which we became a little bit notorious is here. We are the dark side of MN. Welcome.

Happy Christmas shagging, shaggers!

Merry Christmas Viroids!

And to all you who are getting DAF today!

Merry Christmas all. :) commence shagging!!

Oh wow I have eaten and drunk so much today.... (of the unhealthy and alcoholic variety)

Merry Xmas all!

bit late but its still Christmas day! Merry Christmas! hope you've all had a fab day, plenty of if you chose to partake and lots of lovely food. also hope you all got lots of nice things from Santa. I've had so many pressies, I'm spoiled!

Hope everyone has had a lovely day. Ours was fine, we had my parents for lunch and an unexpected guest...my 20mo niece who's mummy and baby bro were still in hospital. They are home now and doing Christmas tomorrow.

Anyone else struggling a bit? I'm feeling sad that last year I thought we'd have a baby or,be pregnant this Christmas. And we should be, I should be 26 weeks
I held it together all day and just had a quiet moment to myself. It's not fair to spoil anyone's Christmas

purple I held my 4mo niece last night and as I looked at her cute tiny face staring back at me sleepily I felt the jealousy and upset start to rise. instead of letting it take over I smiled at her and thought about how next year I'll be holding my baby instead. (I realise I thought the same holding my nephew for the last 2years but I guess I'm a bit further down the road now than many). I decided to be thankful for what I do have - a fantastic dh, the power of modern medicine and a fantastically supportive family to get me through the hard times. its hard to want what others have, but its so much more rewarding to be happy for them. I have to confess a moment of rage when dh told me in bed last night that sil had been talking about money troubles with 2 kids and how they weren't expecting to fall pg so quickly (1st month) with the youngest, when she knows we are about to start ivf! after the anger subsided I decided to feel sorry for her and glad for me - I'm clearly nowhere near as stupid as she is! chin up and stay strong. take back control whatever way you can and know that some day, some how you will get there. we all will.

tink the frozen tent is yours!
Merry Christmas viroids.

Thanks Lil. It's been hard since SiL had the baby on Tuesday but it always was going to be. It's the first one since we started trying and the MC too. I've got a whole day with them on Sat and I'll just put on my stiff upper lip. I don't want to bring anyone down.
And hopefully I'll have my own next Christmas. I do need to work on my PMA.

2014 has been a very bitter sweet year. My wedding day was the happiest of my life. My BFP was the 2nd happiest. The MC and subsequent car crash was the worst.

Car crash?! What happened?

I am so lucky! My family clubbed together and got me a sewing machine of my own! No more borrowing mum's every few months. I am going to be a patchwork fiend!

Morning viroids. Sorry some of you had a sad Christmas. This is our first year TTC so I didn't have that feeling, but big hugs to those who did.

Was woken with a late Xmas pressie from that cats this morning, a room covered with poo. Nice.

Also, question for those who have used CBAFM. When should you start seeing highs? I am on CD9 and getting lows every day (which is making my mood turn low too lol).

I hope you manage OK on Saturday purple, we'll be hear to rant to after though, remember that

jelly I had normal cbfm, but first month I had high cd12-24, peak CD 25-26, iced cd25. 2nd cycle I went low straight to peak on cd13, iced cd14. ran out if sticks m3 but low to peak with no highs again month 4. I gave up on it after that bar anither few cycles down the line, but don't worry if its not doing what you expect. its a) getting used to your hormones as only m1, b) helping you learn about your cycle. I did ic opks alongside it and found that helped to settle my mind that cbfm hadn't missed anything but I'd already been doing the ICs for a year by then so knew they worked well for me.

Honey the MC started when I was working away. I crashed the car badly on the way home. Had to be brought home on a recovery truck. Fortunately I was ok, had a courtesy car for 4 weeks til they fixed mine

Thanks lil I'm going to try being more positive and not to get upset

purple I'm sending you some hugs your way. Sorry to hear about the car accident. Please try and be positive sweetie. I really wish I could do more than send positive vibes your way. X

Hope you all enjoyed your Christmas. It's always a busy time in our family. The youngest is 15 though so I didn't have to endure being around tiny ones like some of you. I've got my fingers crossed that next Christmas I'll be upduffed. I did poas on Christmas morning, but fully expected it to be a bfn, which of course it was. But I was expecting it so it didn't really put a downer on the day or anything.

Today is lazy morning (still in my pj' s) but big family gathering at my nans this afternoon so craziness all over again. Should be good.

Family gatherings do lead to questions though. I overheard my mum yesterday say that she would like a grandchild...

jelly with the cbafm it completely depends on your cycle. I don't ice until later than I originally thought, so it taught me that. The first month it wanted me to test from cd 6 or something, so I got loads of lows, then just a couple of highs before a peak. The next month it didn't ask me to start testing until later in the cycle, so t adjusts to you. Yours sounds perfectly normal for this stage in your cycle! :)

Oh, and it did work for us, cos it picked up that I iced earlier than normal in the third month of trying (I usually ice on cd 21 of a 35 day cycle but iced on cd 14 that month weirdly) and that was the month I got my bfp, probably wouldn't have shagged enough without knowing so was really glad we used it :)

Thanks everyone :) was a bit concerned because I thought I'd have a high by now. Gx I get a high soon!! Still shagging lots lol :)

Hey viroids - hope you had a lovely Christmas. Bit tough for us - Christmas Eve with in laws...Both managed to make me feel like shit given mc was 2 weeks ago - He told me if I want a baby I shouldn't be drinking and she told me she wants to pay for us to see a fertility specialist. Too soon.

My family yesterday were much better and Mr b has surpassed himself with a surprise trip to Vegas. We leave in the morning for 4 days! Thought we'd be off holidays for a while when pg so going for a big blow out before January healthiness and ttc again. and best of all we fly back on new year's eve and because of the timing we get to miss midnight altogether! Always hated new year.

Happy boxing day all. X

Wow Bother! Massively insensitive dicks in his family huh? Except your wonderful Mr B of course! Well jel! Tear up Vegas for the viroids!

Mr H has been playing on his computer for hours and hours. I am catching up on the christmas specials but getting decidedly bored now.

Wow bother. Family not so great, but a trip to Vegas? Mr Bother has done well there! Enjoy what I'm sure will be an awesome trip.

Hope all you viroids have enjoyed your boxing day. We spent part of it playing some weird charades style game using my cousins iPhone... no idea what it was called, but was hilarious.

Hey viroids, hope everyone had a fab xmas and Boxing Day! We went to see the Hobbit which was ok except I've spent most of today felling pretty queasy trying not to retch (horrible popcorn smell in cinema not nice).
Bother that's a bit crap of your inlaws - had they been drinking? Have an amazing time in Vegas!

Thanks viroids - shall put all my Vegas money on bfp for us!

Morning. EWCM has arrived here so shagging will commence this evening along with obsessive poaopk, then The Stork!

We are off to see the in laws today. Well, when dh wakes up. Also need to see my sister (who is luckily in the area) as when I saw her on Xmas day at her home in the Midlands, I accidently gave her my fil present. They are both framed items so must have got confused when labeling!

'Heads up' ainat! Our Christmas has been full of it too!

Father Christmas was very kind to the deeply household and brought a BFP on Christmas morning!
Cautiously excited, but had a chemical pregnancy in September, so won't really believe in it for about another week, as don't want to tempt fate...but still a bit thrilled / stunned / terrified :)