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The Rules...

(1) A lady may only POAS on a Friday.
(2) Friday means the day that everyone calls Friday in the time zone where you spent the night.
(3) Rule (1) does not apply to POA-OPK-S, UNLESS they are being illegitimately used as surrogate HCG detectors, in which case Rule (1) most definitely does apply
(4) Rule (1) does not apply following a BFP because if you want to waste £25 a day POADigiS that's your prerogative
(5) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady is POAS in an attempt to get a BFN to prove she can start DTD with intent
(6) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady wants for unknown reason to pee on an actual stick, like a twig or some such, if that lady is unexpectedly caught short whilst tramping in the forest looking for bears.
(7) These rules (including Rule (1)) are subject to the change at any time if the ladies of the Posifrickentivity thread decide on a whim come up with empirical evidence to prove that it is luckier to POAS on any other day of the week
(8) Violators of Rule (1) shall be subject to fish throwing.

And as a grand finale, why not pledge to NEVER POAS before 14DPO?

Last two months I DTD every day for the whole week of my fertile time and laid down after and it still didn't work! I feel so clueless. I can't believe how little sex I had before meeting my husband as I was so worried about getting pregnant. However it's really not that easy after all....

Well cd11 for me today and ....... CBFM still reading low!!! On he plus side I now have EWCM and we DTD last night as I was horny. Obviously hoping the monitor gives me a high or a peak at some point but I'm also aware it has been screwed over by my last two cycles during mc so diesnt have a clue what's normal for me at the moment.

Morning ladies, welcome to the newbies and congratulations to Friday's BFPs!

I'm mainly lurking at the moment in an unsuccessful attempt not go obsess. I'm a week into my 2ww and feeling ridiculously convinced that his is our month (mostly because my cm is more creamy than the last two months ; just setting myself up for an almighty crash down to earth next week... but for now I'm calling it positive thinking!

Morning, im feeling ridiculously sorry for myself this morning and im exhausted, have just done the school run and am now having a sit down because I havent got the energy to do anything.

I practically growled at one of the mums at school who made a joke about how tired I look and to wait till I had children of my own to find out what real tiredness is . I was very unladylike in my response got into the car and burst into tears.

Hope today goes ok treacle

Afternoon,

I hope your observation goes well today treacle.
I'm also feeling sorry for myself today smilingthroughgrittedteeth. It was a year ago today that I went for my second scan and it resembled a snow storm :-( I had no idea just how bad things were going to get and I will never forgot what that scan looked like :-(

Anyway had a cry and only a few hours to go before it is wine o'çlock!

Smiling you poor thing - very insensitive although it no doubt seemed harmless.

Morning.
smiling hope having a good cry helped- if people make twatty comments they deserve an un-ladylike response.

50 not long till wine o'clock. My mum is staying with me as DH is away so think I'll have to hold off.

I'm not sure whether I can face trying again yet. DH has been working away through the whole miscarriage so think we just need time together. See what happens...

Anyone watching this morning? I have the overwhelming urge to slap that denise women, she is talking utter bollocks.

counselling isnt fucking available around here at least not until 6 months after, I needed help straight away.

I did think the lovely sally was great though, its just the so called experts that are winding me up

I feel a bit sad today.

Sat dtd, Sunday wanted to but hubby said he's tired. I went to sleep angry with him, he said I'm over reacting and he was genuinely tired as we were out all day. This just shows how keen I am and I feel like its not on his priority list, or am I over thinking it? football isn't helping either as these matches leave hardly any time to try! And we both work. Ridiculous. Sorry for the rant. these days won't come again for another month so just want to make the most of it..

smiling was it a discussion about mc then? Denise can be annoying at the best of times. The other week she was on saying if a baby wakes up, you should either just let them be or go into their room but ignore them (maybe fold clothes up in a corner or clear out a wardrobe were her suggestions!) and leave them crying and screaming. Otherwise, get this, they will expect cuddles and kisses all the time.... a child! Wanting love and attention! Whatever next...

It was a piece on the mn miscarriage care campaign.

there was a lovely mumsnetter called sally on discussing her miscarriages, all fine.

then they had denise and a fertility specialised answering questions and giving advice.

They kept saying that counselling and support is there for women if you just go to your gp, they clearly paid no attention to what the mn survey showed!

Philip schoffield was the only one talking sense

If the nhs are offering counselling then why am I paying £40 a week. Stupid bloody women

When I hit rock bottom in September I called the molar pregnancy counsellor at charring cross (apparently the only specialist mp counsellor in the UK) left her lots of messages asking her to give me a call. 10 months later and I am still waiting for the call back from her.

Sad to hear things haven't improved.

smiling people really can be knobs can't they? Like having children gives you the monopoly on tiredness.

Hope I think arguments about dtd when ttc are very common. They are in my house anyway! I just can't not take it personally if he doesnt want to dtd at the exact time I specify. And then I get really annoyed and angry about it, which is of course HUGELY sexy. Try not to worry though, those swimmers last days and days so just try again tonight

50degrees am so sorry you're also feeling sad. I know next to nothing about molar pregnancies but you sound like you have had such an awful ordeal. I'm so sorry. Be kind to yourself, you have had a very dark time but, even now, it sounds like you can look back on it and feel in a better place than you were, which just shows how strong you are and how you will continue to get strong. I think scans will always be traumatic for me, I have never had a good one.

smiling did the specialist say anything interesting we should know?!

I'm still off work and feeling consumed by guilt today. I am planning on going back on wednesday which will be two weeks. They are being so nice but I can sense them losing patience, people just dont realise what it takes, do they?

Yesterday I cried and cried and cried, just this huge outpouring of grief, about my dad mainly. I feel better today so I think it needed to come out. But it just reminded me that grief is not a linear process and we must all allow ourselves to feel sad when we feel sad, and not worry that its x, y or z days on and we should be feeling better by now.

People have no idea about how much having a mc takes out of you, monten, no idea at all. It's such a shame it's just not discussed widely because maybe it'd be more understood. If it's so common - one in four? - why isn't it discussed more?

Knobbish comment though - apologies - I never knew tired til I had Poppy so I'm afraid I am one of those awful "monopoly on tired" people. I was an eight hour a night girl, so it was a huge shock to the system to be awake for most of the day and night.

Hello - can I reluctantly join, I don't really want to be here but unfortunately I am

Age 32, ttc#1 since dec 2013, had a private scan at the weekend when I was 10+6 and it showed a blighted ovum measuring 5-6 weeks. I have a scan at EPU a week tomorrow which seems ages away, went to my GP this morning who signed me off work for a week and is trying to get my scan bought forward. Currently bleeding lightly as I have been for 5 days now.

Currently feel in limbo waiting for the inevitable. I would rather go the surgical route but as my current appointment at EPU is so far away it may all happen naturally by then. I just want this all to be over so I can move on. How did people deal with the natural route with regards to work? I don't see how I can be at work when at any moment I could start gushing (tmi) blood at any moment but not sure how long this will take!

P.S I am also a mad cat lady with a lovely little girl - she too lost her brother to the road three years ago but is quite happy being an only cat with all the attention she gets!

Hi Foxtrot, massive hugs. I was also signed off work between my unsuccessful '12 week' (stopped growing at 5 weeks) scan and a follow-up scan 10 days later, but couldn't cope with sitting at home thinking about it so worked instead. Immediately after my follow-up scan (incidentally, they didn't warn me it would be an internal scan which was an unpleasant surprise- how about yours?) I was offered various 'management options'. I opted for surgical management and went in at 8am the next day; reading threads on here I seem to have been fairly lucky with my care though. I was signed off for another 2 weeks after that, but again felt I'd rather work. Looking back this probably wasn't the best choice, but it seemed right at the time.

4 months later I'm feeling human again and cautiously optimistic about trying again... Stay strong!

Oh and I'm a crazy cat lady too- one naughty fur-baby, have thought about getting her a companion but she seems happy as the sole focus of attention!

broody I have no doubt that there is no tiredness like having children, im a nanny and a step-mum I know how exhausting and relentless children are. However she knows about the miscarriage so I think she is just a colossal bitch.

monten the specialist didnt say anything we dont know already, she too kept harping on about going to your gp for support.

Thanks greysar - I have no idea what type of scan it will be, I don't think it's helped that my initial scan was private, I was in a bit of a state at the time and the private scan place called my hospital and made the appointment, notifying me of it later. It was only after that I had loads of questions hence the visit to the GP this morning. I don't feel up to work, my job is pretty intense, pressurised and in a very male dominated environment. I just want the follow up scan so I can get things sorted (or as sorted as they can be in this situation!)

Foxtrot, my field is very male-dominated too and the very few people I spoke to (didn't want to talk to anyone at all, much less colleagues) were universally understanding and caring.

I was told that there needed to be an interval between my two scans, hence the delay- may be different for your circs though- and that delay was terrible. I just wanted to get it all behind me and try to heal, but it wasn't possible whilst I was waiting. Can you go home and try to distract yourself from what's going on in any way possible, films, books, much much play with kitty?

broody am sorry, I didnt meant parents who complain about being tired are knobs. Just that she was to say that. I also quite like saying the word knobs.

smiling I cant believe she knows about the miscarriage and she still said that!!

greysar am so sorry you find yourself here. I haven't ever miscarried naturally but from what I hear for some people it can be over quickly, for others it goes on. I agree it would be very difficult to be at work. Was your GP sympathetic? I would tell work I had been signed off for a week and then put it out of my mind. Are you willing to tell them you are having a miscarriage?

I think they like to scan twice to be absolutely sure you haven't got your dates wrong and it doesn't grow. It's an awful time to wait though. I'm so sorry for your loss.

p.s I got my reminder for my 12 week scan today and had to call the number and speak to an actual person (in fact two people) to cancel it. Knobs.

Smiling that woman is so insensitive. No excuse.

Monten, that is terrible! My dentist cannot understand that I am no longer pregnant, even four months later; every single time I go they ask me how my pregnancy is progressing (I've had a couple of fillings recently, so have been there like 3 times) but at least the hospital managed to sort things out!!