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The Elderberry Pavlovas- All aboard the Berrycopter. Thread 14

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funkymonk · 03/09/2013 20:23

The smallprint - Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 3+months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot) and def no mention of baby dust or baby dancing UGH !!! Ooh we are strict...please note your house may be at risk if you do not keep up repayments lol

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happylass · 08/09/2013 08:38

Morning. Any news Kitty? Did you PIMP? (Or should that be PIYP? Would be weird if you'd peed in my pot!)

BlindKitty · 08/09/2013 09:09

Well Dh had a winge that I was going to pimp today so haven't as yet so missed my fmu should have just done it anyway he's basically building everything up for wed now. He doesn't get that pimping early actually eases the shock of the bfn grr!!!! Sorry rant over!

happylass · 08/09/2013 09:16

Kitty my DP is exactly the same. Tells me that I'm jinxing things by pimping early (as if) and he doesn't get that it's better just to know rather than spending days wondering am I or aren't I? so I just do it anyway and don't tell him unless he specifically asks

Bunnygirlie · 08/09/2013 09:20

Thanks prof merk I guess I should expect AF Friday then, UGH that seems so far away!

Oh dear kitty

Bunnygirlie · 08/09/2013 09:22

I have to say I'm in the 'wait until AF is late' gang so I never PIMP (unless it's an opk) because I never get that far

Thundercatsarego · 08/09/2013 09:35

Oh kitty that is a disappointment to all of us! We love a bit of pimping!

I never tell OH when I'm pimping to be honest.

BlindKitty · 08/09/2013 09:52

Tbh neither do I normally!!! Will keep my big fat trap shut in future! Try to convince him to come for a walk (for uterine blood flow enhancing) but anyone would think I've asked him to poke his eyes out!!!

Boodle9 · 08/09/2013 13:33

Kitty, your bloke sounds just like mine. We went for a little walk earlier and it was a mammoth task to get him out the house for it!

Decided not to test this morning. I'm really not feeling it this month and my temps look like they might be on a downwards trend now.

SidneyBristow · 08/09/2013 13:58

Kitty fx crossed for you bigtime!

thunder congrats on your scan; saw the photo & it brought a tear (or two, or a hundred) to my eye, so happy for you Thanks

Barking how are you today? I think you made the right choice by staying in.

NHS intake appt yesterday was vastly different from the private one Monday: alone in the waiting room surrounded by posters of babies being breastfed and adverts for pg yoga and parenting classes. The nurse was 30min behind but very friendly and said she wished all her patients were like me bc I was so organized and came prepared Hmm Basically she said the intake appt is to set up all remaining necessary tests and then arrange an appt with a consultant. Since I've had all the major tests, all she wants done is CD2-3/CD21 bloods redone, and SA redone, and can call in for an appt in early October.
I told her we're working with a private consultant & described the 2 rounds of clomid/onto IVF plan, and she said it was understandable although she couldn't definitively tell me that we were not eligible for NHS IVF due to existence of SKs. (which was aggravating).

She did say that Clomid isn't really for ladies like me who are regular and are ovulating, and kept referring to "when you get your period" and "when the Clomid doesn't work" which kind of felt like a kick in the teeth, even if that's how it's likely to go. Not really sure the point of making a consultant's appt but I suppose if we can get any applicable tests done/redone before going for IVF then that will be helpful.

She also said Clomid has a side effect of weight gain, but wouldn't say how much helpful. So, has anyone experienced this? I'm back to the gym tomorrow as she's put the fear in me that I'll pile it on and somehow get above the max BMI. I asked her if it was typically 1/2 stone, 1 stone, 2 stone, 3 stone etc and the most specific she'd get was that it wasn't usually 3 stone.

Actually the more I think about it, my conclusion is she was very nice and competent at the intake stuff but not as competent as she should've been on detailed stuff, which she brought up (I didn't ask about Clomid side effects), so I left there more confused and less optimistic than I went in.

cuckinfunt · 08/09/2013 14:42

any1 ever bleed during ov?

BlindKitty · 08/09/2013 15:07

sid I didn't gain weight with 4 rounds of clomid. Can't recall anyone else saying it either so would just eat healthy , take regular exercise and wouldn't worry about it. I do wish they'd told me the clomid prob wouldn't work as I had so much further to fall when it didn't!

Got told off for not being optimistic today Hmm so promise to start skipping (down the yellow brick road) once I've a a snooze on the pouffe of possibility

yorkiebilb · 08/09/2013 15:35

sid sorry to hear nhs appt wasn't as positive as private. sounds like private could be the way to go for speed and action.

Anyone able to give me a dose of optimism please as it seems to have gone AWOL ? I've got my 2nd fc appt tomorrow morning and I'm freaking out today. sid NHS appt doesn't give me much hope either for getting any conclusion about what is going on,

I'm waiting on my 2nd fsh test results and petrified they're going to be higher than my first high results meaning I'll be refused treatment on NHS. Literally shaking and stomach churning about it all. Need to calm myself down somehow.

barkingtreefrog · 08/09/2013 15:53

sid sorry you didn't find the appointment useful. It's strange she couldn't even tell you the guidelines for IVF eligibility. I hadn't heard anything about clomid making you put weight on, and I actually lost weight the month I started taking it. Given you're only taking 5 tablets a month it would seem unlikely, but maybe it does something to your hormones that affects weight? I wouldn't worry about it too much. My consultant said clomid was very unlikely to work for me as I was already ovulating, but it's all a numbers game, and clomid will boost ovulation and give you a tiny percentage more chance, so it's always worth a go. Just wish clomid could make them stick as well Sad.

I've had cramps and bleeding for 4 days now, although the bleeding is nowhere near as bad as it was last night when it was bright red and full of clots, the cramps have got worse again. Fed up and want it all to stop. Finding it difficult to remain positive but don't want to believe all hope is gone either. I know unexplained bleeding is very common and often the pg continues without further problems, but the bad cramps, and the fact that I've had them for 4 days now, is not helping me build a plausible, positive picture. I'm still terrified about the scan on Thursday, and what might happen next if it's bad news. It's the not knowing what's going on in there that's so difficult Sad.

barkingtreefrog · 08/09/2013 15:57

kitty I can't believe you didn't pimp!!
Get back on that yellow brick road! ^^

yorkiebilb · 08/09/2013 16:01

Oh barking so sorry to read about what you're going through at the moment. You poor thing. Hope your DP is looking after you. I completely agree the not knowing and waiting is the worst thing. Thinking about you and got everything crossed for you on Thursday x

Boodle9 · 08/09/2013 16:29

Barking, I'm so sorry you're stuck in this state of limbo. I really hope that the cramps and bleeding disappear very soon and that this is just a bit of your body settling in and adjusting.

Sid, sorry about your disappointing appointment. I've not had any private appointments (yet) but I can relate to the 'not-very-helpful' nature of your NHS experience, that's for sure.

Yorkie, you sound like you need to take your mind off it. Anywhere you can go to do something for the evening? Failing that, get drunk and pass out

I'm starting to feel the mildest of twinges every so often. I think AF is hitting the snooze button, but she's definitely stirring. Sulk.

BlindKitty · 08/09/2013 17:33

thanks for the nudge barking! Can't pretend I have any idea what you're going through but we're all here for you if you need us Smile. I did actually pimp although it was technically pointless as I'd had 2 pints of tea by that point!

boodle this bit is so annoying isn't it? The 'am I?, aren't I?' bit. We all deserve a break after these years of ttc, don't we?! X

barkingtreefrog · 08/09/2013 17:34

Thanks boodle and yorkie but I'm losing faith very quickly. Googled to find some reassurance that there could possibly still be hope, but all the 'normal' blood they talk about is spotting and/or brown coloured with little or no pain. Yesterday was heavy, red blood with clots, and the pain is varied but overall not getting better, still painful enough that I'm hugging the wheat bag to my stomach and not comfortable walking around. Then I found this: "If you notice fresh, red blood with clots, possibly accompanied by pain, this can signal the start of a miscarriage." Not exactly the reassurance I was looking for Sad.

BlindKitty · 08/09/2013 17:35

yorkie you never know, you're second fsh might be better! When do you find out? X

BlindKitty · 08/09/2013 17:40

barking not wanting to quote my Dh and fc but maybe you shouldn't 'google' anything right now and call you're epu tomorrow morning

CharmingCats · 08/09/2013 17:42

Hello Berries! I'm sorry for having been AWOL for so long. The start of term has knocked me for six and I've been sleeping a lot! Promise to try harder this week onwards!
So pleased to read your news, everyone. I've missed the humour and wisdom.
Barking are you having the bleeding checked at all?
tally how are you today?
thunder what a lovely scan!
Chez-moi, I went to see my FC on Monday, narrowly missing sid in the waiting room Grin .
The metformin has worked in regulating my cycles to 35 days, but obv not pg! So, I have faith in the diagnosis of PCO and that metformin is a good thing for me.
We discussed short luteal phase and very light af. FC took me seriously and explained that he doesn't entirely trust opks in PCO cases, so my luteal phase may be fine. Spotting has been starting on 10dpo. So, I'm having a monitored cycle this cycle. I'm going back for a scan tomorrow evening, cd19 as I think I ov around cd 24. He wants to see if that looks to be the case. Once that's happened, he can make a plan, which may involve clomid. He said the cramps I've been getting from ov to af are a good sign of 'things happening'. With regard to the very light periods, he put that down to things settling down. He did mention that I could have a mc, as it suggests the lining would not be thick enough for implantation, but that he would give me meds to support the lining if I were to fall pg.
Nice, nice, nice!
On it goes......
A friend who is pg with her second told me over the summer that they had been frustrated as it had taken them 6 months to conceive no2! (suggesting no1 was on first squirt, as DH puts it). I shrieked at her.... My only remaining childless friend is getting married next month and is off the pill and has worked out her window of conception from next month. Bet she's diffed by xmas and I'm popping pills. ho hum.
Have to figure out how on earth we're going to find time or energy to dtd now I'm back teaching.....had so hoped to score over the holidays!
Cake to you all x

barkingtreefrog · 08/09/2013 17:49

I know kitty, it doesn't help Blush.
I went into epu on Thursday because I'd been spotting (had a scan which showed no heartbeat but they didn't know whether it was just too early due to late ovulation/conception rather than bad news) and I called them Saturday morning when the bleeding got heavier and cramps were worse and again last night when it was bright red with clots. She said it could be an early miscarriage but they wouldn't know until I get another scan this coming Thursday. Yesterday I was convinced it would all be ok and I just had to get through it. Today, with the cramps getting worse, I'm struggling to remain positive. It feels so unfair to have to start all over again. Doesn't help that the woman next door went into labour this morning, and will shortly be bringing home her 4th baby to walk with past my door every day Sad.

Pipbin · 08/09/2013 18:07

Oh Barking sending you love, hugs and some of the cake I've just made.
I really hope it's ok.

yorkiebilb · 08/09/2013 18:18

barking please step away from dr google, it won't help and you'll only freak yourself out on there with worst case scenarios. Were you told to ring back if the bleeding or cramps got any worse?

kitty I haven't even contemplated they could go down tbh. I've just resigned myself to the fact they will go up and that will be the end of that. It's tomorrow morning at 10 am. I think because I genuinely don't know what they are going to say I am going through worst case scenarios in my head and scaring myself shitless! boodle you're right I need to do something to distract as I'm just winding myself up even more.

Anything good on tv to distract all us fretting berries?

BlindKitty · 08/09/2013 18:23

barking so sorry to hear this. I'd the epu able to bring it forward? Have you tested again? So sorry you've also got to deal with your neighbour. Wish I could fling my arms around you right now and make everything ok.

charming 6 months??? Dear god, she must be going out of her her mind Hmm