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Harry Potter and the rise of the BESH: Instadiffers, baby dusters and huns will be subject to the spell Evanesco!!.

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RaspberrySnowCone · 25/08/2013 14:01

Expecto Patronum

If you are you over 30 and have been ttc for over 12 months, are witch like or even better a complete hag and willing to abuse your powers of wizardry to conjure up gin by the bucket load, then fill out the Beshionnaire and join us if you dare in our battle against BESH curse.

Instadiffers and baby dusters will be turned into frogs and used in a potion.

Peskipiksi Pesternomi!!!

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Fancies40Winks · 29/08/2013 09:35

Yikes that's expensive! What else does your diet involve?

FrankelInFoal · 29/08/2013 09:55

Just checking in to see how Euro is?

eurochick · 29/08/2013 10:56

Thanks for checking on my ladies. I'm pottering along. I had a ghost of a line yesterday morning, nothing this morning, so another chem preg I think. I have blood test tomorrow which should confirm it, then I can stop the vile pessaries and reclaim my foof.

Fancies40Winks · 29/08/2013 11:22

So sorry euro :( What a lot of shite for you. Is it too soon to ask where you go from here?

FrankelInFoal · 29/08/2013 11:25

Oh I'm sorry Euro Sad

eurochick · 29/08/2013 11:49

The next step is more tests - DNA fragmentation, karotyping, etc. We've made 4 embies (1 back, 2 back, 1 back). Something has implanted/tried to implant each time, so at least 3 out of the 4 made it to blast and beyond. They all arrested between 3 and 6 weeks. And they were slow growers in the early stages, which can mean nothing, but can also mean chromosomal abnormalities.

And then we might change clinics. I've been looking at CRGH. I've kind of lost the faith in my clinic since they didn't handle the bleed very well and can't suggest anything that might help other than a scratch, maybe.

OhBuggerMe · 29/08/2013 11:51

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evilgiraffe · 29/08/2013 11:58

Oh euro, even though you were expecting it, it's such a shitter of a thing. One of the things that we can ask for is "embryo glue" - I've not really got much idea about it yet as we thought we'd see how this first cycle goes first, but it might be worth looking into?

Wow, bugs, that's a whole lot of £££. No-one is interested in HOTB as his swimmers are relatively normal (he has a lowish percentage of normal forms, but the count is so high it doesn't matter in terms of absolute numbers), but he takes zinc and selenium as per GP advice from about two years ago!

eurochick · 29/08/2013 12:52

I've heard of that draf. I don't think that implantation is the problem though. The first one certainly implanted well enough (I had trouble evicting it!). Our embies just seem to give up.

evilgiraffe · 29/08/2013 12:56

Ah, I see. There's bound to be something useful out there somewhere.

evilgiraffe · 29/08/2013 13:29

You know what isn't fair? That everything is a pregnancy symptom. Currently I feel sick (leftover from tummy upset) and completely exhausted. It's the drugs, I know it is, but I can't help menkulling slightly. FFS. And the hot flushes have now been joined by cold ones - I keep lurching from far too hot to freezing cold for no apparent reason. I'd be angry if that wasn't so tiring...

Fancies40Winks · 29/08/2013 13:38

Yes draf absolutely. Yesterday I felt sick (hangover) and tired (pushing myself too hard) and I know it's not diffedness - I doubt I'll even ovulate for another week or two - but there's always that tiny nagging voice saying maybe... Sorry you're going through the mill with illness and drucks.

cherrycoconut · 29/08/2013 17:17

draf I really feel for you with the hot flushes, internal radiator breakages are nil fun. I was getting night sweats before I got on the old HRT and they did my head in. I was soo resentful of them too which didn't help as it was like adding insult to injury with the whole POF diagnosis. Hopefully yours are a bit more 'no pain no gain' if nonetheless disturbing. I am aaarrrgh for you. Hideous.

euro your diagnosis sounds like its got something in it. I hope you can get a fresh start and some more answers when you're ready

I'm feeling a bit meh. It's my job to ring all the mutual firends of me and my sister and they keep crying on me. I haven't cried yet. I don't know if I should be crying. It all just seems too big to get hold of just yet and without a full diagnosis I'm not really sure what I'd be crying about. Does that make sense?

eurochick · 29/08/2013 18:33

Have you read the "how many times" thread? My god, that's depressing.

evilgiraffe · 29/08/2013 18:49

Yes, coco, it makes perfect sense. Without a precise diagnosis and with the likelihood of available treatment, not crying seems reasonable to me. Of course, crying is also reasonable! It's very scary and a huge shock, and people react to these things in different ways - don't feel guilty because your friends are crying but you are not.

And yes "no pain no gain" is exactly right wrt the flushes! The only thing is "coping with menopause" type sites are entirely unhelpful as they all suggest HRT, which obviously isn't an option...

Tell me about it, euro. I read the first page or two and then gave up - the sheer number of instadiffers is depressing in the extreme.

Bearfacedchic · 29/08/2013 19:22

Oh bloody hell BESH. These are shit times. I'm really feeling the love for you all though. I'm so sorry and so angry that we all have to go through this. I know saying that doesn't help anyone, but I just feel so argh.

Anyway, Cherry- I've been like that when I've had to deliver awful news but it hit me much later on. Months in fact. Don't feel you have to be strong- you don't. But also, don't worry if you haven't cried. You just process it in the way that is best for you. Thanks

Euro- Thanks I'm so sorry it didn't work, but I do believe you will get your baybee. I really do.

I was chatting to a friend today about IVF and she said her SIL had two failed attempts until they worked out that SIL had a diabetic (type 1) father and she'd inherited some antibodies through this. It took a course of drugs and she got diffed on her third round. Maybe they need to do more in depth testing Euro like you said. There has to be a reason for it, as there is a reason for all of us. Keep hope BESH.

I read that instadiffer thread too. Felt bloody depressed after too, BUT I feel that hope can be bloody strong too. Thanks and gin all round.

Fancies40Winks · 30/08/2013 05:47

Just posting so bear doesn't think she killed the fred two days in a row :)

Also, please wallop me with a blobfish for I am menkulling. Ridiculous.

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lovesLemonDrizzleCake · 30/08/2013 08:10

Morning hags!

I am very in and out of the fred because a) I have little to say, b) I am back at work and nobody has done anything they should have, grrr while we were away on our post IVF-escape, so no time and c) I am consciously spending less time on MN to keep TTC thoughts minimal. Having said all that, it is cd27 and I am menkulling. Because clearly I would get diffed naturally the month after failed IVF...

Holding hands for those waiting and waiting and waiting. Your time sounds particularly shit cherry. I am piecing together your story from snippets. I am with euro that your response to your sister's situation is reasonable, whatever it is.

Holding hands for OTD euro. Not that long to go draf, but it sounds horrid. I did not cope well w DRing, but at least I only had two or three hot flushes...

Yay for good sleep bugs!

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RaspberrySnowCone · 30/08/2013 08:24

Euro it sounds like you might be on to something there with the other tests. Definitely worth having because as you say the embies are trying to stick.

Good luck with getting the diet started Bugs, you'll feel so much better really quickly :)

I have everything crossed for the menkullers!

From me - stabbing starts tomorrow. Eeek!

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cherrycoconut · 30/08/2013 09:20

fanks everyone for being so kind and supportive, it means a lot

Well, ROCH and I had a silly altercation last night and it threw me over the edge... so much for not crying - all this sttuff came up from nowhere and I sobbed like a crazy thing. Felt better for it though and hopefully woo needle lady will help later too.

cherrycoconut · 30/08/2013 09:21

Good luck with stabbing tommorw rasp is eeek and cool at the same time that stuff is happening for you.

eurochick · 30/08/2013 10:57

I've just heard that they have room for us at the CRGH Open Evening next week, so we will go along to that. I'm glad because I'm out of the country for the next one. And you know me, I like a plan to be in place.

cheerycherry sometimes a good cry can be the best thing.

Good luck rasp! It really is fine.

evilgiraffe · 30/08/2013 11:46

You'll be fine, rasp. Good luck!

What's CRGH, euro? Something Something General Hospital?

Feel less exhausted today, hurrah! I have turned the mattress and have the sheets in the wash. Just need to seek out food; yesterday's total consumption was a slice and a half of bread, two packets of buttons, and about three spoonfuls of chilli. Today I am hungry!

eurochick · 30/08/2013 16:22

Something Reproductive & Gynae Something I reckon draf. I've never looked.

I just had the call: BFN confirmed. The dr seemed very frustrated that it isn't working for us.

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