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TTC or pregnancy on prednisolone or similar part 11

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Buzzybee123 · 19/08/2013 22:25

This is a positive thread for all those diagnosed with High or Very High NK Cells and looking to start TTC or already pregnant on Prednisolone and/or Intralipid treatment.

Newcomers very much welcome!

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brownstag · 22/09/2013 12:30

To clarify what I meant, maybe taking lower doses of steroids for less time might be more beneficial. But the problem is getting to ovulate in the first place. Maybe do a superov next cycle. This might kick-start something that will keep on going by itself. I find letrozole has an effect on the next natural cycle or two, by making me ovulate 'on time' rather than late as is more usual for me, and also giving me a nice long luteal phase, rather than 10 or 11 days I normally get.

teamdozie · 22/09/2013 14:29

Thanks Brownstag

I am on CD18. Im going to see what happens this month and then start Super Ov next cycle..

Ive never done Basel body temp.. maybe i should..

I will prob do it from next cycle.. as i reckon its too late this month..

xx

brownstag · 22/09/2013 15:22

I realise now I misunderstood your original post, sorry; I thought you were saying your temps were high, but you meant fertility was high on the monitor.
So it looks like you are going to ovulate soon. Better get busy!
I find temping very good and use Fertility Friend to track my temperature; it takes a few cycles to work out what's what, but I wouldn't do it every day forever as it can get a bit obsessive, interfere with your sleep even (because if you wake early, you think, 'Should I do it now, or later?' and then possibly not go back to sleep, etc). I now use it just before ovulation because my temperature dips significantly just before, and then for a few days after to confirm it. For me 36.2 to 36.5 are always pre-ov, 36.7 to 37.3 post-ov. It may or may not be too late this month, depending on when you ovulate, as you need 6 pre-ovulatory temps and then 3 post-ov for the software to confirm ovulation.

suemays · 22/09/2013 17:09

team I would start the steroids in a few days incase you get preg this month. You would blame yourself if you got a bfp, didn't take the steroids now and then miscarried.

Drinkprunesbutstaynexttotheloo · 22/09/2013 19:38

I used to stare for hours at my fertility friends charts! But, I got pg faster the times after I started charting. Have never used the monitor thing so can't compare.
Sue regarding what your dh said - I remember hearing the minister at a remembrance service speaking about her miscarriage, which happened eighteen years ago. I'm not saying it hadn't got easier for her with time, of course it has, but she still felt the loss all those years later - a few months is nothing. Tbh a few months isn't even long enough to get over it physically.

duggs1976 · 23/09/2013 11:01

Anyone know much about the surrogacy route. So sick of this ttc journey I need to investigate as may be an option for us before adoption?

freelancegirl · 23/09/2013 12:27

I don't Duggs but I would like to know more about it so let s know what you find out.

I too loved temping and chalking all my symptoms up on fertility friend. Might do it soon again actually, not to TTC by just to see what the f@ck is going on with my cycle and it hasn't really returned properly after DS, which might be a worry for future fertility. I did only stop BF in august but had one cycle over 6 weeks ago now.

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Buzzybee123 · 23/09/2013 13:05

duggs all I really know is that there are agencies who can help you find a surrogate. They are not too profit from it and you pay all the expenses for them, it can cost around £15,000.

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mollieboo · 23/09/2013 17:37

Hi everyone

team even though I get pregnant quickly every time we try, I ended up doing the superovulation plan under Mr S a couple of times as it took the stress away of finding out when I was ovulating and timing the steroids, as the pred did seem to make me ovulate later every month. It is stressful isn't it.

drinkprunes love the new username Grin

Hi duggs how are you doing? I've been looking into surrogacy over the past few weeks. Really don't know if I can try again, terrified for obvious reasons. Surrogacy UK and COTS are the two main agencies who provide surrogates, they've got lots of info on the websites including how much you need to pay the surrogate for expenses. You pay quite a lot to join, then you pay a surrogate as buzzy said and I think the ivf is a separate cost on top of that. There's a private facebook group for surrogacy I think but I'm not a member. Also you don't get paid leave from work at the moment if you have a baby by surrogacy, I think the law is changing in 2015. My dh is well up for this path instead of trying again so the decision is all on me, my head is all over the place! Good to have other options to think about though isn't it...

Waves to all x

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Buzzybee123 · 23/09/2013 20:58

molieboo that is terrible if you don't get leave for surrogacy, you do for adoption and it should be the same.
Its a big decision, I do know someone who is trying this route now, but is overseas

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brownstag · 24/09/2013 08:23

I think they are looking to change the law on this but it won't in effect for a couple of years.

Clabbage · 24/09/2013 16:14

Hello
I was just reading a blog about a lady who has lost 4 pregnancies (twins plus two singletons). All late losses 20+weeks from a condition called CHI. She has now found a surrogate who is 23 weeks or so with her twin boys. She is quite inspirational (I've followed her story on and off for a while). Just thought she may be someone receptive to contact re surrogacy. I will see if I can find a link to her blog. I am rubbish at posting links so bear with me!

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Buzzybee123 · 24/09/2013 16:37

clabbage I remember this lady from when I was on baby centre, her story is inspirational thanks for the link

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duggs1976 · 24/09/2013 16:53

Will have a read thanks clabbage Grin

mollieboo · 24/09/2013 18:13

I've been following that story too with interest. She's been through so much so it's lovely to hear she's having twin boys through a surrogate now.

We had results from the hospital today - no known cause. Which the consultant said means either it was a one off or there is something which caused Joey to die which they haven't discovered yet. The consultant said the treatment plan was working and it wasn't immune related so the only benefit of a surrogate would be so that I wouldn't have to take steroids and would go through less stress, as if it is an undiscovered thing it could happen again, but it's unlikely. So I think we'll try again before moving onto adoption. Terrified though and we're waiting till next year now.

Clabbage · 24/09/2013 21:44

mollie I can't help but wish that you had a clear reason. As I know I have expressed to you via pm, my experience of losing Harry to SIDS which is effectively 'your healthy bouncing baby boy has just died and we have no idea why' left me desperately disempowered. I can begin to imagine the fear you must feel moving forward.
Why the hell do we have to rationalise the loss of healthy babies?

Take care of yourself and of course OH as I'm sure today has brought mixed feelings. Much love

Arianrhod · 24/09/2013 22:09

clabbage Thanks for posting that. I have followed her story for a long time but because I don't go on BC these days I didn't realise she'd gone for s surrogate. it's so nice to think that after all the heartbreak she will finally get her babies. Just goes to show that persistence can pay off.

teamdozie · 25/09/2013 20:29

Thanks
Brown, Free, Sue and Mollie..

Just to keep you posted i peaked on cycle day 19 according to my CBFM. So lets see what this month holds as it will be our last of trying for ..... well who knows..

Things have gotten to DH and he has just started telling me.. so i have decided that we should stop until we become a couple again.. thats if the damage isn't irreversible.

Ladies i will keep you posted with regards to this month.. and THANK YOU for all you support.. Its been amazing..

Duggs

I have a colleague who went to the states for surrogacy, and he said he chose there as the law states that the baby is yours from the very moment it is conceived where as in the UK the surrogate has 6 weeks to change her mind? Dont quote me on it..

I hope it all goes well..

xx

brownstag · 26/09/2013 09:11

Really sorry to hear about you and your DH, Team and I hope you can sort things out. It's such a stressful business, this. My husband and I have gone through many bad patches due to the stress of ttc. I've only just got him back on board with trying again.
Big hugs, Mollie.

mollieboo · 26/09/2013 17:20

Thank you Clabbage. Being given no reason is the worst thing. It must be so hard to accept losing Harry in that way even now.

Hi team, I hope you're doing ok. Maybe this month will be your month, fingers crossed. The stress of what we go through on here is enormous and it does put huge pressure on relationships. Trouble is its hard to think about anything else. It feels like your life is on hold all the time doesn't it...

Bakingtins · 27/09/2013 07:48

BFP. Shock Hmm Trying to find some positivity.

freelancegirl · 27/09/2013 08:14

I'm sorry to hear that too team. It is indeed very stressful on the relationship sometimes.

Mollie that's upsetting I'm sure. What next do you you think?

Baking - a BFP! Agghhh! What do you have to do now?

As a matter of interest has anyone ever started the treatment late and had a successful pregnancy?

duggs1976 · 27/09/2013 08:30

Quiet congratulations bakintins Grin
Free there seems to be variations on when people are told to take pred from. Some from bfp and some from ovulation as you know. I think if you don't conceive quickly then people taking pred month after month then fall into infertility category as it mucks up cycles (and life). So I think quite a few start from bfp and are ok. They may come forward? I think lemon didn't start at all and is well into third trimester. It is strange how the nk cells fluctuate so much. ARGC say to re test nk cells every 6 mths. Wish I had so I would have known they had risen so much and could have adjusted my medication but we live and learn. Hydroxy is another interesting area as pebbles wasn't on it for this one either so there does seem to be a clear correlation. I wonder if hydroxy would work alone? Don't suppose we will find out as who would risk it. Anyway let's see who comes forward?

brownstag · 27/09/2013 09:30

Brilliant Baking.
How late is late, Free? With my DS I started pred about 18dpo as that was my first appointment. About 4 days after I got a BFP. So not very late, but some of my other pregnancies wouldn't have even got past those 4 days.