Excellent egg buddies - for all who are IVFing in July/August/Sept

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Over here ladies!

Massive congrats to NookNook!! Great start to the new thread.

tame what's dhea?

Haha, yes Brooker and Beer it is indeed true! I also don't think I look like a banana or rodent

Oh Tame your poor mum. How is she doing? That must be so so tough

Honestly, she is doing really well now. Couldn't see light at the end of the tunnel for ages but she is ok. And the avm is occluded now which is good news

nobeer dhea is a hormone for egg quality. Makes you grow a beard

That's great Tame

Ahh nobeer the way to my heart is through my stomach -you know me so well . I promise to share the bad days along with the good. For now I'm enjoying this unexplainable good day. I am still bloated though -how long does this normally last?

A bloody relief!! She was holding up my ivf

Does anyone else here take DHEA?

I get no side effects at all but some people say its horrendous and messes up cycles. My clinic did a trial on it and love it for older patients and for low amh.

We are all very strong. My sister is formidable!! X

brooker my bloating finally went about a week - 8 days later. Then I got my period and I was definitely back to normal after that. Just take it easy, you've had a rough few days, in so many ways.

tame my clinic didn't tell me about DHEA. I had to go on the pill, but not DHEA. But I am "older". I'll be 41 next week . Oh well, I've got my frozen embies so fingers crossed they'll defrost ok. Glad your mum's ok, I bet it's nice to know she'll be there for her next grandchild.

nobeer not all clinics like it. Its a bit of a wildcard. But our embryo development from days 1-3 was the best ever while I was on it.

You have so many eggs and embies to choose from, I shouldn't worry!! I only had 4!!

How are the temps in Spain nobeer? Its still 20 degrees here

Interesting tame will look into it. One thing we discussed with our embryologist last night was the progesterone monitoring. It's something they have only just started doing There are apparently mixed views in the industry on the quality of the studies undertaken thus far but it's believed that higher levels have a significant negative effect on implantation - due to the lining being ready to receive the embryo at the time of trigger/EC and not ET. They are also moving towards FET as a more standard practice to allow for implantation in a natural cycle, giving the body a rest from the drugs and a more natural environment for the embryo. Made me think of euro

brooker thats fascinating. Definitely something I will enquire about.

I know its against the grain but we may ask about a 3 day transfer too. We just aren't good at getting to day 5 and perhaps its time for a change of tactic. Or staggered transfer? Day 3 and day 5?

All worth asking....

I miss euro

What clinic are you with brooker? X

Private NHS up north tame In other words we now have to pay! < The first cycle was funded> Our consultant worked for Sir Robert Winston god a decade or so ago. We do have a private clinic close by too but the outcomes are similar. I think talking through the day 3 or day 5 issue is extremely valid. You have to weigh up the chances for YOU at that stage of the treatment and forget about the stats.

Gosh nobeer we are practically birthday buddies - I'm 41 in just over 2 weeks too!!

Tame you were one if the people I had in my mind as the epitome of why this thread works - you've gone through hell and yet you're still here, giving and getting support from us bunch of nutters! Don't leave - you're like one of the foundation stones of our little gang

Weirdly considering our bullying conversation yesterday DH and I were in the pub tonight and he introduced me to someone he knew from school, we had a fairly substantial chat and then DH announced that he was the bully who damaged his eye!!!!! In the one hand I was annoyed as I wanted to have had the chance to know he was a total bastard in his teens but on the other hand I was so proud of myDH for being the better man even though inside he still makes him seethe. You would never have known. Funny timing tho.

Resp - nice story about meeting the DH I went to oz to sow some oats....and did!!!

I ?? Robert winston!

fab thats so sweet I can honestly say how I am on this thread is me in RL. My house is the place my girlfriends come when they have a break up, im the shoulder to cry on in our friends. If someone comes onto the thread in a tizz, I panic and want to post asap (like brooker yesterday! I was lost in brum and desperately wanted to make her feel better!) I am chuffed to bits its appreciated but honestly- this is just who I am.

Your DH is admirable. was toy day at school today and DD and 'friend' had a bicker over monster high dolls DDs best mate waded in and sorted it bless her. DD is unfazed thank god. In the next breath this girl was asking to be DDs friend again but DD said she isnt interested. Its all very dramatic. I know its off topic but i will keep you informed. She's a strong girl honestly- she will be ok xxxxx thanks for asking about her xxxxx

God, read that back- its like a sodding write up about the soaps in TV quick!! The drama.....

All your advice has been fab though. I love you all for that xxx

I am starting my 3rd IVF attempt on about 19th August - depending on when my period arrives. Anyone else starting IVF about the same time so that we can be stress heads together?

Not sure if there is anyway to talk more personally on this website if we are going through the same thing and want to vent a bit more to eachother? Can anyone help me with how to do this? I am new to all this posting stuff and really want to chat online for support with my 3rd round.

Sorry for lack of personals, my head is in a right old state. Embryologist phoned to say that all 3 embryos are still at the PN(pro nuclei) stage and they haven't started to divide yet. He says that he's not saying they still won't and to give them the benefit of the doubt and he'll ring at 7.30 tomorrow to let us know if we will still be going for transfer. Oh fuckitty fuck, has anyone got any experience or words of wisdom? DH has gone out into the garden and started weeding(which he hates and never does) and I don't know what to do with myself!

Oh choco what a shock it just feels like the bottom has fallen out of your world doesn't it?

lets just hope and pray they start dividing. That's all we can do.

Im a veteran of slow embryos and its just gut wrenching.

Love to you and your DH
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If you go for transfer, will it be tomorrow? X

Thanks lovely tame, am trying to stay strong. Transfer will be tomorrow, yes. How are you doing today? Xx

On Chocco. Hang on in there. The embryologist has obviously got lots of hope for them. I am a total novice but am here for hand holding x

Thanks nomaybe, I'll take lots of hand holding.

Im good. Just can't wait for our consultation after holiday now! need an expert to help me solve the puzzle!

Choco, one thing I have learnt from this is that once the eggs are out there is nothing else you can do. Its sad and frustrating but its down to some greater powers somewhere whether those embryos make it and how good they are. All you can do is hope xxxxxxx we are all here for you either way xxxxxxx