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The Elderberry Pavlovas who will graduate (thread 12)

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CharmingCats · 15/07/2013 20:08

Roll up, roll up for the best discussions of ewcm, opk, ic and double dying you'll ever have. Probably.

The smallprint - Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 3+months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot) and def no mention of baby dust or baby dancing UGH !!! Ooh we are strict...please note your house may be at risk if you do not keep up repayments lol

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BlindKitty · 21/07/2013 08:58

Really irresponsible advice here from the dietitian but if you're desperate to lose weight fast then you need to go carb free. You'll lose water as well as a little weight but it might be enough to convince the clinic! Please note, wouldn't normally advocate it! Re the bath, it's just water you're losing so once you rehydrate the weight will go back on!

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CharmingCats · 21/07/2013 09:37

Grrrr to one night stand instadiffers. I've got instadiffer pg SIL & family over today. Lush.
You know I said about light periods? Not this time!
pip do they take into account that your weight loss is ongoing? Or is it just the scales on the day?
The downside to my shiny new normal cycle is that af is now due when we're on our beach holiday in 4 weeks time. Looks as though I may have to get to grips with tampons. I've usually just run two packs of the pill together in this situation.

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CharmingCats · 21/07/2013 09:37

Ps, pip I've reset cbfm, thanks

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Bunnygirlie · 21/07/2013 09:54

merk and kitty the funny thing with that question is later in the evening she mentioned how it took them years to get pg, go figure! I haven't been asked that question many times before but as 2nd wedding anniversary is fast approaching I bet it will fly at me more often.

I need to cut out carbs again anyway as its bread and potatoes that make my IBS flair up!

Boomgoestheweasel · 21/07/2013 10:22

Bunny gaargh who even asks that question?? Probably the same people who tell you to 'just relax and it'll happen' I can't even count the number of times I've been helpfully told that by people who genuinely don't understand why I roll my eyes and delete them from Facebook. I'm with Kitty, make them feel uncomfortable, they'll think twice about being so insensitive with someone else!

Charming huh to instadiffer SIL. How on earth do you survive without tampons? Maybe you should invest in a mooncup instead...can you go in the sea with a mooncup in? although of course by next month you won't need either because you'll be diffed

Merk boo to itchiness, yay to laying on sofas!

Cloudy and a bit drizzly here, going over to Ma & Pa Boom's house for bbq but it might yet turn into an indoor do...as long as they feed up Mr Boom I'm happy, he's going to need his energy this next fortnight Wink

barkingtreefrog · 21/07/2013 10:26

bunny Although I won't, I'm desperate to ask my brother / his wife if they're trying. Firstly because I'm interested anyway, he's younger than me but she's older, 37, and because of my experiences I want to shout 'If you want any you need to start trying now!!!!' But secondly, and more selfishly, I need to know whether to brace myself a) for a pg announcement far too close to home and b) not being able to produce the first grandchild on our side of the family even though I'm the eldest and have been trying hard for over 19 months already!!!!

Boomgoestheweasel · 21/07/2013 10:43

barking it's a bit different though, asking someone sensitively if they're trying compared with blurting out 'when are you going to hurry up and have a baby then?' which is just a blunt instrument that assumes that you could have one if you wanted one! Can still understand why you wouldn't ask though...

BlindKitty · 21/07/2013 10:43

barking you'll have to do some detective work! Does she always drink at family party's? Any preconception vits in her food cupboards? Or you could just tell her that you're ttc, hopefully that will make her tell you?

boom I can't believe you're friend never caught an sti! I'm presuming that was t the only time she'd had unprotected sex?

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CharmingCats · 21/07/2013 11:10

Of course, boom ! I won't need anything! I'm a wuss when it comes to inserting, so am not sure a mooncup and its seal would work for me either. When I started my periods, my mum advised me not to bother with tampons for a while and I grew up in a Muslim country where they were frowned upon, so no friends used them, or at least no friends talked about them. So, I never bothered. When I started the pill and needed a week without af, I ran packs together. Strange, I know, but there you have it.

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ladybunnikins · 21/07/2013 11:30

Kitty, I've lost 16kg so far but it's on a VLCD (although not quite as extreme as lighter life and cambridge) because I needed to lose the weight fairly fast for the IVF, plus I really struggle on things like weightwatchers because I lose weight so slowly and get de-motivated whereas this way I'm losing 1kg a week on average. I'll definitely be asking your advice when I come off the diet though, because I know keeping the weight off is the hard part!
Charming, I'm with you on the tampons, only use them when I have to because I don't trust them not to leak.
Bunny, I hate that question as well. I'm avoiding visiting my husband's family in India because they're all going to be asking! I don't know if it's an indian thing but his family have no qualms about asking personal questions and telling you you need to lose weight!

barkingtreefrog · 21/07/2013 11:39

kitty and boom she told me yesterday one of her friends (who I met at her hen do and wedding) was pg again with her second. I said how lucky she was to get pg so quickly (she's 41 and their first is only 1) and SiL said it'd taken 'a while' the first time (under a year though I think, which in my book doesn't count as 'a while' anymore!) She then went on to mention her best friend who has twins, I hadn't realised they were twins due to IVF, they conceived on the 4th round of IVF. Despite all this talk of babies and ttc she didn't volunteer any info about them trying. Then this morning we were talking about jobs and I steered the conversation to my recent missed job opportunity and dithering because of ttc, but she still didn't bite. I've given her obvious opportunities to jump in and share and she's chosen not to so I'm not going to be more direct.

AF seems to have left the building so we're going to start the dtd marathon as soon as brother & SiL leave later! I've never had Ov before CD19-22 before, so clomid could bring it a whole week closer!! Really want this cycle to work!!!!!! not that I've not wanted any previous cycle to work

Pipbin · 21/07/2013 12:50

Cats Its the scales on the day. What you were or intend to become make no difference. I know its harsh but then it is something that I can do something about and they have to have a cut if point somewhere don't they.
Kitty I know the weight loss through a bath is only water and will go back on, but if that 1/2 lb will make the difference then it's worth doing that morning just for the short term fix.

Pipbin · 21/07/2013 12:53

My next term at school is going to be odd as my TA is actively TTCing after having a loss at 20 weeks. We talk very openly about it all and it is nice to have someone else to talk to about peeing on sticks etc. However I'm not sure how either of us will cope if the other get pg.

Bunnygirlie · 21/07/2013 12:57

Hey ladies.

boom as people don't know we are TTC I haven't had any comments like just relax, keep trying etc etc etc - Thank goodness!

barking I'm the oldest on my side of the family too, if my sister got pg before me I would die inside. I'm the oldest cousin too and I am dreading someone beating me to it Sad

Heading into shag week here and the fear is setting in, timing awful too, weather hot and our shower is being ripped out this week!

Boodle9 · 21/07/2013 14:08

Happy Sunday, fellow Berries. I popped my last sweetie this morning; never make the mistake of having an empty glass by the bed...clomid tastes foul!

Bunny, my DH and I are the eldest but one younger sibling has already beaten us to it and one on the other side I anticipate being within the next year, assuming no problems. It's soul-destroying. I wanted to be happy but it really was just incredibly painful and I don't feel at all connected to my nephew - worst auntie ever. Sad

Also feeling guilty about all this weight loss talk! I've managed to shift some slowly over the last couple of years after I realised that BMI had gone closer to 30 to 25! Still almost 26 though but I just cant motivate myself to lose that last bit!

barkingtreefrog · 21/07/2013 14:27

boodle and bunny glad it's not just me. It was bad enough to hear that DP's brother was due their second, I can't imagine how I'd react to hear my own little brother was going to produce before me Sad .

And boodle yes! Clomid tastes foul!!! Why?! Why can't all tablets have that slippery coating that most ibuprofen now have? Even taking my clomid tablet with orange juice I could taste it!

BlindKitty · 21/07/2013 15:54

lady ask away but I'm sure you'll know it already. I predominantly see patients on tube feeds or who are underweight so don't normally talk about weight loss much these days!

barking hmm either she's just really good at not blabbing unlike me or they haven't started ttc! Do they defo want kids?

bunny rubbish about the shower! Do you have a gym nearby? My parents in laws announced they'd be using our shower in a few weeks as having a bathroom refurb...great Hmm

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CharmingCats · 21/07/2013 16:42

Family gone. Had a nice time, but good to have house back. Dh wants a hammock for his bday on thurs....hope somewhere still has them in stock!

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barkingtreefrog · 21/07/2013 17:23

kitty I know my brother wants kids but don't know about SiL. I would assume it would have been a deal breaker for my brother (given comments he made on someone else's relationship) so I can only assume they intend to just not yet, which suits me just fine!! She has many friends who don't seem to be in a hurry and have no kids, the one in her 40's pg again and the one with IVF twins being the only exceptions. I think the main thing could be where they live. Their house is tiny. It's two bedrooms but their bedroom is small and the second bedroom is very small and the downstairs area is very small. They have no garden or outdoor space at all. I imagine they would want to move house before having a child as they struggle with the size of the house with just their stuff in it. This is pure speculation on my part though!

Boomgoestheweasel · 21/07/2013 17:52

boodle, barking, does clomid taste bad? I take it without water (never take pills with water, which has more to do with being lazy than anything else!) and they're certainly not as bad as paracetamol! Last day tomorrow and then bonkfest begins. We're going to be tired little berries in a couple of weeks, let's hope it's all worth it!

charming ooh, a hammock! What a great idea Mr Boom never comes up with good ideas like that for birthday presents!

kitty, bunny - UGH to shower woes when it's so sticky!

pip must be nice to have someone to share experiences with, but I see what you mean - I could imagine it would be unbelievably difficult for either of you to see the other manage to get diffed. Flipping TTC politics eh!

I guess I'm quite 'lucky' on the brother/sister front - I'm the only one in a long-term relationship, they're both with very new partners so short of a slip-up I think it's unlikely I'll be getting any announcements in the near future. Plus my sister has similar ovary issues to me, so it's likely she'll struggle too when the time comes which I wouldn't wish on anyone, especially not my lovely sister Sad! It's a shame, there are no children in my family at all, my dad's already 70 and they'd love grandchildren...it would be nice if just one of us could oblige! Sad My cousin's getting married on Friday, am selfishly crossing my fingers that there's no instadiff announcement at or shortly after the big day!

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CharmingCats · 21/07/2013 17:53

barking sounds like you gave her every opportunity to share. Maybe she doesnt want to say?

I really do love my cats. They were so patient with 2 yo dnephew.

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CharmingCats · 21/07/2013 17:58

I too am determined this cycle! Eod as soon as af leaves.
Read an article in an old copy of red magazine where it was suggested (I think by Emma cannon) to dtd for the five days prior to ov and the day after, once you've pin pointed when that is, of course. Would that make sense? Tallies with other things I've read.

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barkingtreefrog · 21/07/2013 18:08

charming exactly, and she has every right not to share personal details with her nosy SiL which is why I've never actually asked!
From what I have read sperm is meant to last up to 5 days swimming around waiting, and the egg can be open to visitors for up to 24 hours after it has dropped, so that timescale seems spot on!

ladybunnikins · 21/07/2013 18:59

My sister is younger than me and has a 3 year old but they married before us as well so it doesn't bother me. Plus my niece is so cute, I love spending time with her, I just wish they lived closer Sad

Boodle9 · 21/07/2013 19:06

Boom, I used to pride myself on my ability to swallow all my daily tablets without water. However, I stopped doing it when I took a new period pain gel capsule and the thing started to dissolve in my oesophagus. Oh it burned! The clomid really was vile; as soon as I put it in my mouth there was a really bitter taste and it wouldn't go, even with water! Thank goodness that was the last one until next month!