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Pull up a chair for the 2ww...

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Tea1Sugar · 07/07/2013 18:36

Anyone care to join me for this interminable length of waiting time?! I'm only 1 dpo! Brew

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internationallove985 · 07/08/2013 21:43

Hi Gingerandcocoa. I agree you shouldn't let ttc take over your life. Easier said than done, no argument there. I avoided coming on here for a few days as was at a really ebb and I was getting very envious of all the b.f.p.s (God that sounds terrible doesn't it) but now the witch has cleared off I'm feeling much more positive. x

Positivementakattitude · 07/08/2013 23:11

Thanks snoozy and gingerand cocoa yeh I am thinking about it too much but mainly as tomorrow is period due day and in the day luckily very distracted as run my own business and moving office sept so very very busy and my other half driving me up the wall as he off work

Even though not thinking about it it always in the back of your mind, I find anyway this is my first real time and month ttc no sign of the witch yet either.

International yes I feel your pain but hopefully out bfp will come soon and can join the club bfp do come and that should give us hope Grin instead of Envy possibly lol

We can all but try. Maybe I should add 5 my friends due in next 5 months one very good friend since school in labour as we speak envy is one emotion I am very familiar with but also glad not every woman has to go through this ! Xxxx

Gingerandcocoa · 08/08/2013 07:12

It's just so crazy, because when you're avoiding a pregnancy you think that even if one time you have unprotected sex you are probably going to get pregnant... And now, I think the the 5 times I DTD during my fertile period aren't enough lol!!!!

ArkadyRose · 08/08/2013 09:12

Even if you DTD every single day during your fertile period, apparently there's still only a 25% chance you'll fall pregnant.

My problem isn't the falling pregnant bit usually, it's the holding onto it afterwards bit. I suspect I'm one of those hyperfertile women whose body tries to hold onto every embryo, even the ones that would never ordinarily get as far as 4-5 weeks. So getting a BFP will just be the start of different stress. Trying not to think about that too much right now though.

Purplestorm83 · 08/08/2013 11:14

Hi, my first post on this forum! I only started TTC this month, now half way through the 2ww - the first week wasn't too bad but I can't believe I've still got a week to go! I think part of my problem is lack of distractions - I'm a teacher, so not working at the mo. I agree with the people above who said to not let it take over your life - at least if I get bfn this time I'll be distracted by work next month so won't obsess so much!

snoozysleeper · 08/08/2013 13:19

Welcome aboard all Smile

I'm aware that 25% is the stat that is quoted for chance of conception per month in normally fertile couples...it seems like such a low figure Sad

I don't see any harm in having sex more regularly, every day if you want to-- entirely up to you and what works for your relationship, I found this below on some late night googling...

"The finding, presented at the 2007 American Society for Reproductive Medicines Annual Conference, and which is of particular significance to couples facing challenges of conceiving, suggested that daily sex could increase the quantity of sperm produced and improve the chances of pregnancy.

The research, which suggested that sperm sitting in the body accumulates damage as it ages, indicated that if sperm is released in a steady stream, due to steady sex, the sperm that is ejaculated contains newer and less-damaged cells.

Australian researchers, looking at the sperm quality in more than 40 men whose wives had either failed to get pregnant through Invitro fertilisation(IVF) or had repeatedly miscarried, found that when the men had no sex for three days, their sperm contained high levels of DNA damage. Ironically, on testing the men after having sex every day for a week, the amount of damage dropped by a third.

Dr Abisola Abisoye-Ogunniyan, an embryologist, in an edition of Fertility Update, a publication by The Bridge Clinic, stated the significance of semen quality in couples facing challenges of conception.

According to the expert, one day of abstinence can cause at least 20 per cent reduction in the sperm count. So the longer the period of abstinence from sex, the poorer the sperm count.

He added: ?But with sex at least three to four times a week, the chances of getting pregnant is higher if they meet that once a week or say at weekends.?

And then despite this there are studies showing how strong a factor stress is Sad

I think if you spent long enough on the Internet you could find evidence either way , they also say don't dtd every day for longer than a week because it can adversely affect sperm count

I think you could drive yourself mad looking at stats on the Internet ... So my opinion is just to do what feel right for you and your partner Flowers

snoozysleeper · 08/08/2013 14:49

arkady it sounds like you've had difficulties before so here's hoping this time will be different for you Flowers

And purple good luck for your 2ww, I think you're wise to be looking for distractions so not to get too obsessed --such an easy trap- -

TeaAndANatter · 08/08/2013 16:18

Thanks Snoozy and Mentalkattitude (fab names!), and all else for advice. Usually relatively mellow about the conceiving, but the mc has made it feel a bit different this time round. Shoudn't grumble, lots of women on here have had awful late mc, and mine was first trimester, but I'm being an arseache this week. I sat next to a women on the train this week who was going to rub a hole through her dress if she stroked her pregnant tummy any faster, my work colleague is being rather precious about her (first) pregnancy (which is making me ratty and jealous), and everywhere I look pregnant women are breeding (ha - I meant that they were multiplying, rather than they are LITERALLY breeding!)

I'm off to snarl at my cat (not really) and surf stone fireplaces (ie look for them online, not a death wish at the beach) and to not even think about the whole sodding idea until POAS day on Sunday (should just pocket the £5 and wait til AF on Monday).

Crossing fingers for the rest of you, chaps x

snoozysleeper · 08/08/2013 18:28

Oh tea I'm sorry you're having a difficult time at the moment, although I have to say your post with the bits about cat snarling and breeding pregnant women made me chuckle a bit...

Jokes aside though, seriously look after yourself and best of luck

Crossing fingers for you too Smile

Positivementakattitude · 08/08/2013 23:26

Wow snoozy at research I think google can be a night mare as always something on there to read!

Tea andnatter am sorry been thru the emotions you are too I had mc 11th July so rely do understand and there always seem to be so many baby's pregnant women baby ads I was with my friend last week who even took me down the baby isle :( lol at cat snarling mine keeps jumping on surfaces (kitten) and snarling would be polite way of saying it hahaa

Big hugs and thoughts with you we here if any when u need to unload xxxx

No witch yet so 1 day late now that's assuming usual 28 day cycle ...have you had a cycle since mc ? This is my first and sure I only ovulated last week x

snoozysleeper · 09/08/2013 01:50

I'm in total agreement with you positive

Hoping this cycle works out for you !!

Gingerandcocoa · 09/08/2013 08:51

nurse how is the no testing going??

I can't believe it's already Friday and I have managed not to test again! AF is really due on Monday, but as agreed I will wait until Wednesday to test (if AF doesn't show up on Monday of course :P).
I've been having light cramping for about 5 days now, but no other symptoms so I really have to put it down to symptom spotting....

I have to say I feel slightly lucky for having short cycles (26-27 days normally), as I've got less waiting to do!!!

TeaAndANatter · 09/08/2013 09:20

Hi Positive, Yes I'm on cycle 2 since mc. I lost ours on June 11th (ish - I think? Didn't note the date. It was all a bit blurry at that time). I ov'd a week late first cycle. First period was an utter bloodbath, so be aware. Other mumsnetters had warned me in the mc thread, and it was good to know so I had extra stuff at work. Other women didn't get that bloodbath-ness, but good to be prepared, as it was a lot.
Ov'd on day 15 (as is usual for me) this cycle, so due Monday.

Ginger: I'm due AF same day as you (POAS buddies). I noticed my temps dropped three days before AF last cycle, so they were due to drop this morning, but they didn't (crossing everything for high temps tomorrow and Sunday too). Likely to be hot weather, getting up for wee and thus staying in bed 30 mins later to get to the 3 hour temp point etc etc . 26 day cycle bonzer! That's a whole extra cycle a year on me, jammy woman!

Positivementakattitude · 09/08/2013 10:25

Thanks snoozy xx

And teaandnatter I am expecting the worst as so moody if AF does come I know it will be a horrible one and I didn't bleed much when I lost my little angel so held a lot of hope date - was my grand ads bday so will never forget the date know what you mean about blurry I found out preg and may have miscarried all same time and no scan until the 15th so kept hope it would be ok. Thanks for pre-warning I'm dreading it and been about 3 months since last AF really feel I have forgotten what even a normal one is like ! Yeh I obv'd week late too 2 days over now bfn yday only got one test left now so going to leave until 6 weeks after as nurse said next AF could take 4-6 weeks so another 2ww great ....never mind a chair I need a bed lol

No more poas for me for a while ...fingers crossed ur tempa don't drop Hun and bfp ASAP xxxxx

Gingerandcocoa · 09/08/2013 10:30

lol @ "jammy woman" :)

Tea I've not done any temp charting yet. Might start next month if not successful this month... Do you have any useful links as to how to take the temp?? Can you just use a normal thermometer?

Positivementakattitude · 09/08/2013 10:39

Wow snoozy at research I think google can be a night mare as always something on there to read!

Tea andnatter am sorry been thru the emotions you are too I had mc 11th July so rely do understand and there always seem to be so many baby's pregnant women baby ads I was with my friend last week who even took me down the baby isle :( lol at cat snarling mine keeps jumping on surfaces (kitten) and snarling would be polite way of saying it hahaa

Big hugs and thoughts with you we here if any when u need to unload xxxx

No witch yet so 1 day late now that's assuming usual 28 day cycle ...have you had a cycle since mc ? This is my first and sure I only ovulated last week x

Liquidambar · 09/08/2013 10:52

Hi ladies. May I join you? This is my first month ttc#2 and I'm finding the 2ww very difficult. I don't remember being so anxious when I first ttc.

also,I'm not sure if I've ovulated this month... all the opks were negative but I only started testing a bit late... perhaps I've missed it.

Af is due on Tuesday. I don't think I'll be strong enough to wait until Tuesday. I might poas on Sunday. i know, a bit crazy Wink.

Good luck to everyone.

Gingerandcocoa · 09/08/2013 11:45

Liquid welcome :)

I'm in the same boat as in I don't know if I ovulated this month - no positive OPKs for me either, I had a 2nd line once but it was lighter than the control line.

Nurse and I have an agreement not to POAS until Wednesday so you're welcome to join us ;) I'm really tempted to POAS this weekend but if it's a BFN I will still have hope until AF day, so decided it's best just to say plus I can spend the money elsewhere

Gingerandcocoa · 09/08/2013 11:45

say = wait

Eminybob · 09/08/2013 11:54

Hi just joined the site and think I have found the thread that sums up my life! I have no patience at all and constantly symptom hunt. I think I have caused my own sore boobs by prodding them so much! Nice to know there are others in the same boat as me as everyone I know in real life seems to have gotten pg the minute they came off the pill!

TeaAndANatter · 09/08/2013 12:07

Hi Ginger: I started with TCOYF by Toni Weschler (Taking Charge of Your Fertility). Get an old copy on Amazon for not much, and a digital thermometer (Amazon also). Digital are good, because shaking it down raises your temp if you forget to do it the night before. It needs to be accurate to .1 centigrade (I use c, so I don't know how accurate for farenheit). Mine does to .01, so that's grand, and costs about £3.
I love charting as it means I know exactly when I ovulate, so don't need to have so much sex (ha!). The pictures of cervical fluid are bot gross and totally wow all at the same time, and the pictures of cervixes helped me in the past to know when the ov ship had sailed, even without temping. It's fab!

TCOYF have a website too and a forum for questions (but feel free to ask here too).

Gingerandcocoa · 09/08/2013 12:17

eminybob I just laughed because I have probably caused my sore boobs too, by feeling them up too much! i'm terrified I'll do it at work without noticing!!!

tea I have heard of that book before! Thanks for the tip. I'll wait until Tuesday to see if I get a BFP or not, and if I don't then ill definitely get that book!

snoozysleeper · 10/08/2013 10:06

Testing

TeaAndANatter · 10/08/2013 10:40

Thanks to Snoozy for finding our tread when it had disappeared from the forum for no known reason (creepy things at work!).

Had been trying to announce the arrival of the BFP (!) as I can't tell anyone else for ages. Crossing everything that this one's a keeper, and looking forward to reading everyone else's progress this 2ww.

ArkadyRose · 10/08/2013 12:10

Congrats, Tea! Smile

I poas this morning and got a very, very faint line. Am not 100% certain it wasn't just an evap line though.