Legs in the air.

[Writerwannabe83]

Hello ladies

A colleague of mine told me that in order to increase the chance of conception I should lie on my back with my legs up against a wall for half an hour post sex!!

Obviously I know it is silly - but I still did it last night!!!

Also - this is a seriously TMI question but I do need to ask it.

After sex, how much sperm do you find leaks out of you??

Even after having my legs up for the wall for about 15 minutes I still found there was quite a lot of leakage when I stood up, haha.

I can't believe I'm talking about this!

I guess I just thought that all the sperm would be shot up to where it needed to be???

Honestly, that were ruddy genius. Can't stop snorting

I'm sure mommylovessquidgybabymoonbeams understands

Oh bugs 😂

Sorry for the delay in replying juicy,I'm at work. If gay couples want to have children that's fine, for starters both parents will know they're going to be parents and the missing component has been donated willingly.

Katie Price hasn't tricked anyone into becoming a parent, neither has Ukrika, the children still have their fathers involved in their life.

Women tricking their husbands into having another child when they've expressly said they don't want anymore and wrong too! What a betrayal of trust!

I'm not even against sperm banks, though I think they should be used as part of a living couple and not necessarily a single person.

You said it yourself, women are doing it to fulfil THEIR longing. They are doing it for themselves and not thinking of the effect on others.

You have no idea whatsoever about Ulrika et al, do you? (She has no contact with the father of her second-born). Or Liz Hurley or the myriad women who pop babies out when all previous partners have bitten the dust long ago.

You keep talking about sperm being 'donated willingly'. What do you call the stuff being chucked about liberally by blokes who refuse to wear condoms? To say they are being deceived is about as disingenous as you could possibly get.

If you want the Utopian paradigm of family life I suggest you get off mumsnet and start campaigning for the Church to be restored in this God-forsaken shit-hole called Britain.

Harrumph!

If he's not being deceived, then it's simple, make it clear no contraception is being taken. Leave it at that. If he continues then he does only have himself to blame. Men assume women are on the pill.

Men assume women are on the Pill

S'funny that, 'cos women assume men who don't wear condoms aren't really bothered if a baby rocks up.

Do men assume women are on the pill? Well you know what assume does makes an ass out of you and me

Bloody italics fail,I hate this phone!

Men don't want a kid with a stranger, they assume women wouldn't want to either. So if she's letting him ride bareback so to speak 50% won't think of STDs and jump aboard without too much concern.

Yes they are stupid to assume. They are stupid to assume that women aren't trying to trick them into becoming parents as is the case here. Being naive doesn't mean they deserve it.

I seriously don't get the 'poor, naive bloke' attitude on this thread, it's dreadful.

Juicy: Hard to say. I'd have to write you an essay on it, probably as there's no short answer. But I study linguistics and I'm used to reading between the lines and analysing what people say. To me, International sounds very young and, in my view, immature - but that of course is a personal opinion, and obviously I'm wrong on the young front. With regard to Ulrika Johnson, I don't know much about her, but based on what you've said about four children with four different fathers, I don't really agree with/approve of that.

I appreciate the church comment wasn't directed at me, but just in case I also come across that way to you: I'm not remotely religious and never have been. I also don't believe in marriage (though I'm happy for others when they get married), and I'm ttc with a partner I've been with a year and am not married to. So, for me, it's definitely not middle-class ideals.

Fifi, I can only assume your defence of cavalier dick-heads is because you have a son. Am I right?

RaRaz, I have nothing to say about your study of linguistics except: If you're not religious and you don't espouse middle-class ideals what, exactly, irks you about International's efforts to conceive a baby with her regular doesn't-give-a-shit-about-condoms fuck buddy.

You see, I am religious (although trying to give up swearing) yet cannot bring myself to judge International simply because I know the pathological yearning for a baby is irrational, selfish and all-consuming. I've also slept with zillions of men who didn't give a fuck about mine or their sexual health and who also refused to use condoms. I honestly wish I had had babies by a few of them in my twenties. Maybe even four. Much more preferable to being a twisted and bitter barren in your forties.

I'm seven weeks pregnant from donor egg IVF in the Czech Republic but oh! how I wish I'd just got knocked-up by a couple of the very decent blokes I shagged in my twenties.

Where do you draw the line with 'morals' if you're not taking the bible as your yardstick? What do we do about co-habiting couples? Lesbians? Gay men? Single women buying sperm from clinics? Children having babies? Old women having babies? Liz Hurley deliberately impregnating herself with billionnaire Steve Bing's sperm?

How are you going to rate International's morals against a society which values all of the above and none of God's? How do you, as an atheist, do that? You have no right....

I'm sorry - but this thread has just got too ridiculous now!!!

Take a 'Chill Pill'

Based on International's newest thread I don't think her FWB scenario is going to be continuing anyway.....

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I'm not an atheist.

I do have a son, he's 2 so a bit young to be worrying about him meeting someone like her.

I don't think old women or children should have babies. If it happens then its done, I don't believe in abortion. I think gay couples can make great parents, the lengths they have to go through to become parents shows their commitment. The ideal must always be a stable family in which to bring a child.

What's her new thread? I promise not to bite this time...

It is on the Conception page and is called something like, "I know I'm going to get flamed but I can't stop crying."

I'm going over for a look....

Sorry, Juicy, I have no right to have an opinion? Given you've been championing International's right to do whatever the f she wants, I find that a bit rich. Nor do I understand what religion has got to do with it. I'm not religious and never have been. Probably never will be. I'm particularly far distanced from Christianity. Doesn't mean I don't have my own set of morals - one of those being honesty. That's why I have a problem with International's behaviour. I also believe children are better of with a mother and a father - or at least a significant 'role model', for want of a better word, of each gender in their lives. I don't like International's decision to DELIBERATELY bring up her children without that.

Seconded

Winterwannabe. I checked the thread yesterday but I did not respond to what you said as my response would not have been very pleasant, but I would just like to say "Do you get some sick weird twisted pleasure from the upset of others, because that is what is seems like hence the big smile. in regards to my thread.
Also sorry to wipe the smile off your face here but he called me last night I wasn't going to answer but something told me to. I opened up about how he made me feel. (perhaps I am falling for him) I'm seeing him when he comes back and just going to see what happens because there could be something to save and if the result is a beautiful baby then being used will have been worth it. x