Eggcellent Egg Buddies; are you cycling in July/August/September??? Get in here!!!

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We swear! We have to start a new thread every week! But we are the most gorgeous bunch of ladies ever and will do anything to get a baybee in our tumtum.

Get nattering.....

Me - 2.5 months shy of 43 (shit), failed cycle mid May, no AF since, floundering in no woman's land. Unable to make any decisions (about anything, not just AC!).

nook when I was on them, I'd invited people round for 3pm. I never usually sleep at night let alone in the afternoon so was surprised to sit down after lunch about 1.30 then be woken by them letting themselves in...

euro, 2x2 day (2 cell and 5 cell) transferred 25 June. OTD is 7 July, but I just got a BFN.

nobeer and maybe, I may sound like a broken record but will you insist that they take some to blastocyst?

juicy no idea what blasto thingy means. also, can someone explain what all the abbreviations mean? should I ask the clinic about blasto whatsit and how many cells etc? as far as i know because I have to wait another cycle before embryo transfer (that's ET, right?) they're going to freeze them on Saturday.

Juicy not broken at all, they are aiming to take all mine to blast. Tomorrow I am update call, but I'm provisionally booked I'm for Monday.

Me: 28, DH CF carrier, 9 embies following EC yesterday using retrieved sperm.

Is the progesterone why I'm so shattered! I keep falling asleep to be awoken by either DH asking how to make dinner, or the dog checking I'm still alive

motor 41, had 1 blastocyst from donor egg transferred 29th June. OTD 8th July. Doing misguided home testing in the meantime, and got faint positive today.

maybe you are shattered because you are going through so much physically and emotionally, and the hormones too. It is absolutely time to rest whenever you can, let other people do the hard work, and you just look after yourself.

Thanks Motor. It's strange, I'm bored but exhausted. Are you testing again tomorrow?!

Yes, I'll test again maybe, and hope for something a little more perceptible without squinting! I'm trying not to get ahead of myself though, because I know too well that it can all come crashing down.

Fantastic fertilisation by the way!! I look forward to hearing how they develop.

I will be keeping everything crossed for the morning! I'm hoping there will be a good few that make it to blast!

I've got a f@cking cold! How is that even possible?!?!

Hcg can stay in your body up to 11 days after your trigger shot.

For a 3-day transfer, don't POAS until 6 days after transfer.
For a 5-day transfer, don't POAS until 4 days after transfer.

Anything earlier isn't valid.

Nobeer, embryos that develop into blastocysts at day five are much more likely to become a pregnancy than an early embryo they put back without knowing its viability. When embryos are transferred at day two or three the embryologist is largely using guesswork to ascertain which embryos he feels are more likely to become blastocysts and then viable pregnancies. This is why so many IVF cycles fail: the embryologist is effectively (and unwittingly) returning non-viable embryos to the womb. If an embryo makes it to day five it has a much higher chance of being 'the one'.

This is a very simplified explanation of blastos. Ask your embryologist to explain further. There are obvious reasons why some embryologists won't take an embryo to blasto. For example, if only very few eggs were retrieved at EC they cannot reliably risk taking them all the way to day 5 in case none of them make it (although there is a strong argument which states that an embryo that doesn't make it to day five would not have made it in the womb anyway). With a bumper prize of lots of eggs like you and maybe produced there is no reason why some cannot be taken to five-day blasts. I honestly think this is the best chance for everyone doing IVF.

Thanks karbea. mejust and I are just past that (esp. mejust with an afternoon transfer). I didn't have a trigger shot.

Sorry you've got a cold. Take it easy.

motor how come you didn't trigger?

Karbea Donor eggs, so no need. From whatever I have read, it seems to be about the final maturation of eggs, and mine have already matured beyond redemption!

Karbs I've got a fecking cold too! Does anyone know what I am /am not allowed to take for it?

karbea I was still getting a very faint positive 11 days after trigger, so your warning is absolutely valid for those triggering.

Paracetemol should be ok nook but not much else. I know decongestants are a no-no.

nobeer this tells you more than you ever want to know about embryo developement: stemcells.nih.gov/info/scireport/pages/appendixa.aspx
The graphic at A2 is really informative.

nook Paracetamol and lemon and honey is the safest sweets.

euro I truly hope your instinct is wrong but you are a wise one- sometimes you do just know. Still hoping you are wrong

motor praying you get a darker line tomorrow.

mejust I think you may be a little early with a 3 day transfer- didn't you and motor have ec on the same day? Give it a couple of days chick, hope you get a surprise.

do you think choco can't find us?? She hasn't been on for a few days has she??

Hello to respisa karbea expat

Congrats to nobeer and nomaybe on fab fertilisation!! Amazing result!! Love it

We are debating supplements here the Mel b list is going to set us back a small fortune.

We emailed her about the proxeed and she insists its worth the money. The pynogenol she has listed is £120 for a months supply!! We are skipping that one....

I need a pimp!!

Thank you Juicy. I'll ask them if they do for frozen embryos too. Just looked up blastocyst in Spanish and can't find it.

Aha, found it!

tame she's suggested a lot more things for you than she did for me. I might see her again... Heard back from the specialist Dr and arranging an appointment so that's exciting.

On another note;

What has everyone had for dinner??

I made a home made special fried rice! It was fecking rank! And I have made enough for lunches for about a year! Woop.

And today on my wireless I have been listening to Bette Midler, the verve, Tom O'Dell and Lana del Ray.

I'm here tame! Sorry, have been lurking and checking up on you all, just not checking in homemade fish and chips for dinner!

Where to start with you all... tame really glad to hear your bleeding has stopped and glad you've been feelin a bit better since Monday. Jealous of your meet up!

euro sorry to hear about the bfn, fingers crossed it was just too early. Is DE a definite no no for you?

joos fantastic results, well done. So happy for you. Roll on next Friday when you have your scan . Hope you are not feeling too bleurgh.

nobeer and nomaybe, fab news about your embryos

mejust I'm guessing you are testing again tomorrow? It probably is too early as the others have said.

wish still thinking of you hunny and hoping you are holding up and that it hasn't been too horrendous being back at work with everything else to contend with.

life sorry to hear you have been feeling rough, but glad you're feeling a little better now.

nook congrats on being PUPO

nokkie how are you getting on?

motor a faint line you say. That's fanfuckingtastic!

karbea crap that you have a cold

res how are you doing? Crap to hear about AF being AWOL.

lizzie hello!

cups Glasto sounds great and good luck for injections.

expat I've lost the plot with what stage you're at, sorry! No worries about not realising DH and I have frozen spaff too

fab great that you are starting down reg soon

flowers hello!

brooker well done for doing your own jabs. DH does the buserelin(only cos I'm too lazy to arse about with it) and I do the gonal f. Have you started your stims yet?

Wow, I'd forgotten how whacked I feel for the first few days of drugs! I started buserelin on Tuesday, clomid on weds and gonal f today. I have been as grumpy as hell and not very emotionally strong. One of the clomid side effects is mood swings - blimey! It has also given me really dry eyes. Moan over, I am happy really . Does anyone know if there are any supplements not to take during stims, or what did you take?

karbea the whole list is mind boggling and mega expensive. I suppose if it works, its worth it. We are picking through and trying to decide what is essential and what isnt.

She has recommended a folic acid called metafolin as well- heard of that?

What specialist are you seeing? At your clinic? X