TTC 10+ months thread 12

[buzzybee123]

A very friendly and supportive thread for those taking way longer than they had ever expected to make a baby.

I've been. Jez. Blame it on the phone.

Hug doll and tail preen. Feel proud of yourself for everything you've done these past few months. I'm cheering you on v loudly.

euro sorry to hear about the worries. A trip to the urologist is a good plan but I'm sure all will be ok and it might be that they can do something? (ready for euro the second). I can't really clomid when away, I'm out in the sticks. If my period could just hold off til Monday, it might be that I could do 5-8 day clomid from googling. I also worry it might spoil my lovely trip, views everyone?

Well done doll and enjoy the business at work as a break from menkulling!

Good luck today euro, I am sure you'll be fine! And sorry about the swimmer stress :( that is quite horrid to have to deal with as well. But better get it checked out. I used to think SB had quite a lot of volume as well, but he hasn't in tests, and since have noticed that it might be me diluting things...

Waves tail feather to you all. I am snotty again, what sort of reward is this for doing more exercise. Maybe no swimming today after all (instead sitting on lazy ass, doing an assignment).

I love your thank you in the cupboard story joy. I'll whisper my congratulations now. What's the next step?

rabbits what's the deal with the ivf and skinniness? Does the nhs have a lower bmi limit?

doll hang in there. When will you hear whether the eggs and swimmers have got it on?

euro you have an embie. That's fantastic. I'm sorry about the swimmer issue but the quality must be good as one of them must have done it's job. That's a good plan for mreuro to get checked out, especially if you think low volume hasn't always been an issue.

I'm on CD39 and no af. I bled for a couple of days after the lap, no where near AF volume but I'm wondering if my body has been tricked into thinking it's had AF. I could really do without mucked up cycles.

Den don't worry about af. My cycles were messed up spectacularly after womble prodding but they do come back. I think the body likes to get back to what it knows.

Lemon I'm snotty. Again. Always just before my period?

Oh and yes, I need to have a bmi of 19. It's still 18 in spite of trying quite hard this month.

My BMI is 19. I have always found it hard to put on weight, despite never having issues with food or eating. No amount of cake or chocolate makes any difference. It does worry me that I might be too slim to get pregnant, but I think our problems are much more complex than that. Having only 2 sperm being the most obvious. I understand why the NHS has to have some boundaries but I do hate the cut offs. Is it the same in every NHS area? Or is that another postcode issue?

I think most pcts are the same. I'm hoping I can wear heavy clothes and get away with it!

or wear lots of heavy hair extensions. Or slouch when they measure your height.

Or don't wee for hours beforehand rabbits! Stupid NHS. Look at k middy. I reckon her bmi must be below 18 and she's preggers. And posh spice has had 4 kids, despite being incredibly thin!

rabbit oooo foreign travel sounds ace. Personally I'd probably delay the clomid, although have never been on it so don't know how it makes you feel! Will Hare be with you on the trip? Presumably he needs to be about for it to be worthwhile taking the clomid?

mrsd sorry to hear about the odd cycle, but your womble has been through a lot and will be trying to get back to normal. Must be frustrating when you want to get on with the ivf.

lemons boo to the snot. I'm still suffering too.

euro seeing the urologist sounds like a good plan. It will at least sooth any fears about the problems being anything more serious. Other than that, I don't know how much help they will be. Dave had all the checks for cancer, blockages, dodgy genes etc, but ultimately they can't do anything to help him or tell us why he has the sperms issues although it's obvs the ball probs he had as a kid. As Mr E is only borderline, they might be able to suggest some stuff to help. Having people hammering on the masterbatorium door can't have helped him produce the best specimen! I hope ET goes ok today. Btw expect the nazi leg straps again.

doll sorry to hear you are a bit down. Lots of luffs. When is ET for you?

sar pleased to hear the new job is going well and hurrah for swift post op recovery.

I rang the clinic yesterday and they advised to wait until next cycle for the FET. Prob cos they didn't want me spreading my germs about! I am disappointed, as I'd pencilled in leave etc, but we need to give the 1 embryo the best poss chance and I've noticed that being poorly can muck up my cycle. Am feeling less feverish today, which is good, but still have the cough from hell. My ovaries don't seem to care though and are doing their cd7 pinging and producing ewcm! Does anyone else get a small blob around cd7 or 8, when the ovaries are waking up??!

I know it's frustrating gin, but waiting until the cold does one is a good plan. I still feel frustrated that I should have started ivf in December but my body and the cyst had other ideas. I don't know when to start now. We are going away for a week in March, so I'm wondering if it's best to wait until we come back and then we shouldn't be away again for a while. I feel like I've waited so long now, it's like one of those dreams where you can't get any closer to where you need to be. IVF in spring is supposed to be more successful too for some reason.

euro one cause of low volume can be a duct blockage, and I think it can be easily fixed.

Soz gin but best to wait til everything looks good.

Just got an a+ announcement. Somebody kill me now

Oh no rabbits. How shit. Can you share details on here so we can all be cross and envious of her? Hope it's not a family member. That's the one I'm really dreading...

mrsd you have been so amazingly patient waiting for the ivf. My 1 month FET delay is nothing in comparison! Enjoy your holiday I say. It is so difficult to fit in having a normal life, work and ivf. I'd heard that spring/summer ivf is meant to have better success rates, although our nov cycle was better in terms of embryo no.s...

Tis family member, sil. And actually a very very long fought battle I had no idea about. But 100% unexpected. Won't be us with grandchild no 1 then.

Hare and also his mum has misread text. Not pregnant but getting married. How shit am I to have just felt elated

Morning ladies

First off well done euro and doll for getting the EC over with. I'm sorry that MrEuro's sperm wasn't as optimal as you hoped but I will trot out one of the few TTC cliches that I actually believe to be true and say that it only takes one
doll I am sorry that you feel down. It is a massive thing you are going through and your hormones will be all over the shop. Sending you a virtual hug.
Good luck today euro

Thinking of you too seaview Hope all goes well.

art I am sorry that you had a scare. I can't imagine how stressy that must have been but I am so happy that all is well.

joy I too loved your thank yous in a cupboard story. It is fab that levels are rising.

rabbit I actually breathed a sigh of relief on your behalf when I read further down how it was a misread text. I could only imagine how bloody awful a preggo SIL would have felt. BTW you are not being shit to be relieved.
The BMI thing is a bugger, not to mention a bit stupid. If you are healthy & having a good diet, which you are, then making you put on weight seems mad. Pizza and Xmas pudding with loads of cream makes me put on shed loads of weight in a very short space of time in case you are desperate enough to want to follow that advice!

gin I am so sorry that you have to delay your cycle because of a cold. That must feel really unfair. The clinic deciding to put off the cycle makes me think that there is obviously no clinical evidence that having a cold makes implantation more likely owing to the immune system being distracted. Damn! makes mental note to stop actively spending time with people with colds

mrsd I agree with rabbit that you will be bound to have a few weeks of strangeness with regard to periods and stuff. I think that some people are more sensitive to being prodded and poked in that region. If you are slight of frame unlike me who is built like a cart horse then I reckon you are probably more susceptible to your womb grumbling about being manhandled.

lemons I am sorry that you are snotty too. Good luck with Monday. I hope
that all goes well.

madness MrP had to do his first "on site" sample on Wednesday. He was panicking beforehand about finding a disabled loo in the hospital. Apparently there was one right outside the place you drop off the sample so he went in, did the deed and then said how he wandered around alot first before handing in his sample so it wasn't obvious that he had been wanking in the loos! Am a bit concerned though that he just put it in a basket in front of a hatch...surely that will kill his swimmers but hey thems were the rules.

buzzy enjoy your time off critter don't work too hard

I'm waiting for the courier to call about dropping off the drugs which should be iminent. In between finding that about 300 spiders had hatched in my clothes horse this morning, MrP not being able to pull off the drive because his back wheel was locking and finding Big Dog totally standing on the coffee table in the bay window with his buster collar (lampshade type thing on his head to stop him scratching his, yet again, sore skin!) wedged in the window frame, I am fairly sane and not stressing too much about the whispers drug consignment.

Waves to everyone

Gin I got EWCM just at the end of my period this month when I haven't had any for ages. Sorry about the snottiness.

rabbit what a rollercoaster! We lost the battle to have the first grandchild on Mr Euro's side a couple of years back (and I was quite upset at the time). As an only though, if I can manage to pop one out, it is guaranteed to be the first on my side!

The BMI thing is daft. Plenty of naturally slim people get pregnant. I think it is just a way of limiting numbers to cut costs. I had a BMI int eh 17-19 range for years. Mr Euro is a bit of a feeder so it has been around 21-22 since we have been living together. I could loan you Mr Euro? I don't need his services for a few weeks now.

ARGH to spiders pout.

doll have you had ET yet? How are you doing?

I got back from ET about an hour ago. It was far less traumatic than EC for me, if not exacly loads of fun. I think Mr Euro is a bit traumatised by being in the room, but frankly he can just deal. I am putting up with worse! The worst bit was the clinic running an hour late so I had to sit there for an hour with a full bladder going progressively more cross-eyed! The relief at peeing afterwards was immense. I now have one Grade 1 2 cell embie on board. COME ON!

euro get in! I'm toasting your embie with a 4.30 glass of wine because frankly, a dry January needs celebrating god I hope this works for you and you get broom exemption. I'm ashamed at my response to a 6 year earned pregnancy. But it is what it is. I want first grandchild in hares side. Damn ttc pride.

pout did the drugs come? I want to come round and look at them with you. Is that weird?!! In a supportive way I do wish we could all hang out as Real People.

Right then. This is my 12th cycle where on day 26 my glands flare and I feel runny nosed, achey boned and shit. It was especially bad the cp month and feels as bad this month. As I had glandular fever oct 2011 I have been told it is post viral and have been taking on the chin. But it is too much coincidence and I'm I have read that progesterone can cause post viral flares. But I am wondering if it is an attack on an embryo. I have poo pooed this in my head for a long time but I'm a bit perplexed today. It lasts til my period comes. Joyce - immune expert - what do you reckon? I'm from a long line of late menopausers who have babies in their 40s. I'm life threateningly allergic to stuff. Am I just an inhospitable environment (god love the friends infertility plot line)

joins the chorus cheering on *euro's embie

Well done you and relief that it is over. My God at an hour with a full bladder. Feeling sick just imagining that!

Oh and gin, I get ewcm from cd 8 ish to whenever I ov and gallons of it. If only that equalled conception.

Hi ladies,

Thanks for the good wishes. IUI all done. Relatively drama free apart from long wait and 1st doc not being able to see my left ovary on the 1st scan. Another doctor the next day found it just find. I just have to wait now.

Gin ? How was your scan? I hope your cold is better. I find some crush coriander seeds and ginger boiled together always make my colds better. Might be worth a try if you can?t take pharmaceuticals.

Euro ? Sorry to hear about your bad hospital experience. I do find fertility clinics to be one big money making conveyer belt. I know it?s a business but it still amazes me how much you can pay and still get average services sometimes. Good luck? I am sending lots of positive vibes? And yes it is my first IUI. I came to AC late. 3 and a bit years of TTC before IUI! I was the same today.... 1 hr wait with a full bladdar... I had my legs crossed

Critter ? I know what you mean about ovulation sticks. They are v expensive? I have been told EWCM actually more accurate anyway. I tried to do that for a few cycles but I don?t think mine is that accurate (ie. I have v little) but if yours is, I think it?s a better gauge than peeing on a stick. Plus? peeing on a stick (Ovulation and Pregnancy Tests) just gets old after a while? Good luck.

Rabbit ? I am sure you are not menopausal. I can really sympathise with your weight issues. I had the same problem. I went to my doc about 2 years ago and I had a BMI of 16.5 then. They told me there is no way they would help me unless I get to 19. I tried really hard for a good 6 months but my weight just never stabilised. I can lost 3 kg without trying in a week!!! Have always been that way. In the end I just had to eat like crazy and when that wasn?t enough I started eating really calorific foods (butter in everything). It was hard. I finally got to 18.5 BMI and the doctors still said I had to out on more weight. I was at my wits end, I just couldn?t put on that final 1kg. So, at my final weight in, I changed £200 into coins and wrapped them up in clingfilm, took out the filling in my padded bra and filled it. I also put some in my jeans pockets, cardigan pockets and wore 2 pairs of leggings under my jeans?. Seriously!!! As for your Clomid question, I think you should take it. Any reason why you think it?s not good to take it when you are in the middle of nowhere? Is it because of lack of scanning facilities?

Sarlat ? Enjoy your weekend break? handy that it?s ovulation time!

Doll ? I hope you are feeling less down. Stay positive! Sending positive vibes your way.

Pout ? What drugs are you about to take? For IVF? Good luck.

Joy ? Hope everything is going well and you are enjoying the pregnancy!

Rabbit I have the Dr Beer immunology book if you would like to borrow it? I would be happy to pop it in the post on loan.

pout the cab driver on the way there seemed to find every pot hole and speed bump in London too. By the time we had arrive I had sort of slid down in my seat so my torso was level to try to counteract the effects of gravity!

sea you must have rattled when you walked!

seaview I have bras aplenty with padding holes as I have practically no boobs. I like your thinking! Sadly I have a long history of eating disorders even though I was always skinny and come from a long line of skinnies. Me, my brother, my dad and all cousins are just thin. When I was 16 a school nurse told me I'd put a lot of weight on in a year (I'd gone up to 7 and a half stone because duh I'd grown 4 inches) and I was distraught. So now, people think I'm skinny because of the ed when actually I am the weight I should be naturally iykwim. It is a source of much frustration. I eat relatively well and don't restrict anything but my appetite isn't huge, nor is my family's. which is probably why I stay slim. I can lose shitloads of weight when I'm ill in a week and find putting it on near impossible. In that way, it was simple for me to get to five and half stone. I do wonder if that wrecked my ovaries, it was the key threat when I was in the nuthouse. But lots of the girls I was with have had babies no problem. Oo outpouring. Sorry! There is very little talk of anorexia on MN and I do wonder why. This whole thing does feel like my punishment for being such a twat and worry to everyone I knew.

Oo yes please euro my brother is reading it on my behalf. But as a Super Fertile I think he's struggled to get past chapter one. Can I pm you my address? Will return favour somehow. I make a mean baby bib!!

Euro - No rattling when I walked... That's what the cling film was for. I spent ages thinking it through.

Rabbit - Don't beat yourself up at all about ED. I am naturally v slight and my mum who is 65 years old is still less than 100 pounds at 5ft 3. I am taller at 5ft5 but I have been 100 pounds for most of my adult life. I have never really suffered from ED but I did go through a period of extreme controlled eating in my younger days but I wouldn't say it was ED - just control freakiness.

As for hurting your fertility chances, I don't believe it's long lasting. In fact, as long as you have regular periods it's totally okay even if you have had ED in the past.

But seriously, try the £200 two pound coins. It worked for me! I am at 18.5 BMI so I only cheated a little and believe me. it was not for the lack of trying... I just can't sustain weight gain. But I have read that having a higher BMI within the healthy range does help with conceiving... but then look at Posh!