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TTC 10+ months thread 12

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buzzybee123 · 21/12/2012 13:56

A very friendly and supportive thread for those taking way longer than they had ever expected to make a baby.

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viviennewestwould · 04/01/2013 21:11

Rabbit, this is the status I put on my facebook this morning:

'I've decided I'm not going to have kids. I love babies but I'm just not ready for the commitment of uploading that many photos to Facebook.'

Not one of my friends with kids has 'liked' it. I'm laughing my head off.

CritterPants · 04/01/2013 21:27

Hi guys

mrsd you sound so amazingly together and calm. Good for you for making a plan, and for what it's worth I think it's the right decision. You should feel bloody proud of yourself for being so courageous about all this. The 15th is just around the corner.

rabbit I am hating being back at work too. Boo hiss to being a grown up again, and yah boo sucks to child-related FB status updates. I was thinking last night that so much of FB is fake. I know there are wonderful things about it - I love keeping in touch with the people I care about - but it's also a real forum for people who are unhappy to display things that aren't reflective of their real lives, IYSWIM.

euro and gin, I am now a staunch proponent of being porkier - I reckon that combined with feeling generally happier about living abroad, it's the key to my returned cycle. But I am not a fan of my jeans being tighter so I do feel your pain. I suppose I'll have to just go shopping Grin for a super flattering pair.

joy oh poor you. If your dry skin is all over your body, a really lovely face cream isn't going to do the trick - I'd add in the E45 bath oil that you can get at Boots, or Oilatum, which is the same sort of thing, plus maybe some sort of fish oil capsule, avocados, mackerel, nuts, that sort of thing, to get some oils in your diet. Also, I would avoid soap and have a nice wallow in the tub instead. I was the BMI girl, yes - I think it's putting on a couple of pounds, cutting back on exercise and generally feeling less homesick in the US that has all helped bring my periods back.

viv OHSS is ovarian hyper stimulation syndrome - meant to be painful and in some cases quite dangerous - basically your ovaries get really swollen and overstimulated. It's more common in women under 35 and PCOSers, apparently.

buzzy that's exciting that you're thinking of going back to NZ - gosh, a big move for you. I had two weddings Blush a wedding in the US and a big party in the UK. At the party there were lots of kids and they screamed blue murder through the speeches but I must say that they did look very cute in the photos. Grin

madness I have been meaning to send you a link to this blog - the girl was downregging for years due to severe endo. She now has two beautiful twin girls. She's an amazing photographer whose blog I used to read all the time when I was engaged four years ago.

lemon are you doing another IUI round this month?

frozen I love your bridesmaid dress story! Smile

thatso The west country is gorgeous, and how nice to live so close to a beach! I would just keep your grandfather's ring as it is, and not have it melted down, especially if it is engraved inside. You could wear it on a (very strong) chain around your neck, or sew it (very very very securely) into a little pocket inside your wedding dress for the day of the ceremony.

Hurrah that it is the weekend! We are having friends over for dinner instead of going out, all part of 'Project Scrooge', our annual post-Christmas economy drive. Grin I will be cracking open the duty free Baileys after dinner and browbeating them into playing Bananagrams with me. Hope you've all got lovely things planned.

buzzybee123 · 04/01/2013 21:33

viv I did Grin at your fb status.

critter my two weddings were to different men Wink enjoy your baileys and your freinds

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viviennewestwould · 04/01/2013 21:35

Thanks, Critter. I am now worried that my day 21 progesterone score (119.4) is an indicator of OHSS Confused

EuroShagmore · 04/01/2013 22:06

viv it won't be. If you had OHSS, you would know about it! I think I had a very mild case on my last Letrozole cycle (I say "I think" because it arose on Saturday morning and by the time I was scanned on Monday afternoon I had ovulated and was feeling better). symptoms

I only had a very mild case and I certainly knew all about it.

PS - love the FB update!

Critter you might be right that a few extra pounds have helped to kickstart things for you. I'm glad everything seems to be in working order now!

rabbitonthemoon · 04/01/2013 22:27

critter your posts are always so sunshiny. Apologies to all for my rather grumptastic sloppy effort earlier! I do loves you all. Maybe dry January was a poor plan!

viviennewestwould · 05/01/2013 07:12

BFN. How can my temps be even higher at 13DPO and it be a BFN? I am royally fucked off. I can not cope with this any more. I am 41 and running out of time..

Now, excuse me while I fuck off and go and repeat the word c**t until I feel a bit better Sad

rabbitonthemoon · 05/01/2013 08:01

Sorry about the bfn viv be kind to yourself today.

joycep · 05/01/2013 08:15

Viv - 13dpo can be too early. I know I was 17dpo before I got a positive. The show isn't over until the witch appears and high temps are a good sign. Haha at your FB status.

Critter- thank you so much for all your brilliant tips on dry skin. I did try rubbing myself in olive oil last year which was quite good on the old granny legs but disastrous when I rubbed it into my hair! But good tips to start eating all those foods. Anyway so pleased about your ovaries , I have a great feeling for 2013 for you.

Rabbit - so sorry about FB updates. Hideous things. One day though you will be able to post baby pics up and this will be a distant memory.

Madness - I hope these next few months pass by quickly for you.

Mrsd - glad the appt went ok an the 15th is not too long a wait. I would feel the same way as you (I know easy for me to say) and you are being very pragmatic. Also Having a lap will probably make you calmer and more confident when it comes to ivf. Just having that first general anaestetheyic and experiencing what it feel like is kind of a training.ok this is what I have found so I may be speakig bollocks.

So I am currently sitting in my clinic on a drip having ivig treatment. This is something in the past I said I wouldn't do just purely because of the product. But 14 women alone had it yesterday here and they apparently get results from it. Its suppose to bring your natural killer cells down. I am also being put on to aspirin, clexane and dex (a steroid) today. Trimg not to think about it too much as I am prone to anxiety attacks!

EuroShagmore · 05/01/2013 09:13

Morning joy. ARGC is really throwing everything at you, isn't it? I'm glad you sound like you are taking it all in your stride.

Viv sorry about the BFN, but it still might be too early. I gave up regular testing ages ago, because I hated seeing negative after negative. It's so hard mentally. I like temping because I get a bit of a dip the day before AF comes usually, which means I get that day to prepare myself for it being all over.

akuabadoll · 05/01/2013 11:59

joy your treatment does seem very intensive, good for you with pressing on. Would you like to substitute some other dairy for the milk? I think you mentioned you were not sure how to calculate? Why is the milk advised? For the protein content? If so I can help you substitute. Perhaps there are factors other than protein? Let me know.

hi to everyone. I'm back home now. Smile

viviennewestwould · 05/01/2013 12:12

Thanks for the tissues, ladies, I really am not coping well today. I went back to bed shortly after the test (we sleep in separate rooms - always have. I won't tolerate snoring) and left DP this note:

'Test negative. Gone back to bed. I can not cope with this any longer and I can't tolerate your fucking selfish smoking, either. Don't wake me up before you go to the football and don't turn the fire off [it's a bastard to light]'
P.s. I absolutely HATE that you are seemingly addicted to energy drinks - more poison probably thwarting our chances of conceiving'.

I just woke up and the house is empty and I am regretting my note already. He is such a marvellous man who is aching as much as I am for this baby. We only ever speak to one another with love and respect and I've been just horrid. Where's the point in laying the blame? I'm pathetic and cruel.

Joycep, did you have a negative result before your positive?

viviennewestwould · 05/01/2013 12:13

Joycep, I hope you get great results with today's treatment.

freedom2011 · 05/01/2013 14:09

joycep fingers crossed for treatment going well today.
viv I am sorry about the negative. Maybe you can give DP a big hug when he gets in. Maybe he can give you a big hug too.

I also had a negative result this weekend which I guess means IUI mark III didn't work. Just waiting for next cycle to start now. On the plus side I am eating pork steak, potato and leek gratin and green beans followed by clafoutis tonight. And I've just had a hot chocolate and I am going for an afternoon nap. So apart from the negative test, my saturday is going pretty well.

buzzybee123 · 05/01/2013 14:17

joy I have yet to experience IVIg, Shehata does Intralipids from BFP, but I know a few who do it from before, something I can ask him about next time I see him. Are you taking vitamin D ?? Just think of it as a step closer to getting your baby and you will know you have done everything possible.

euro any new from your end??

viv we all do it at some stage, perhaps next time just write the note but don't give it to him, you get to write down and vent but without him reading it. My only advice is to get rid of the ristrictions that stress you out, like your age, I used to constantly worry about having a baby before 40, I'll be lucky to be pregnant by then. Once I got rid of all the limits I set like being pregnant by that age or that due date I felt alot happier, Being stressed and miserable about something you have little control over will only make you unhappy and won't help you achieve anything.
I did get a BFP after a BFN. I ovulated later in cycles, tested at 12dpo got a bfn and cried, then felt a bit sick at 14dpo and got my bfp.

doll I hope you had a good trip back, must be nice and sunny :)

Well I had the young and delightful Ricky put his hands on me again Grin then I came back and started to spring clean, I now feel totally righteous. Now off to sainsbury to shop with the civilised people Grin hope you all have something nice planned for the weekend

sar If you are lurking, I hope all goes well on MondaY ??, thinking of you

pout I hope you are ok too

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viviennewestwould · 05/01/2013 15:50

Freedom & Buzzy, thank you. I like the advice to stop dwelling on the perceived barriers to conception. My age is all I think about and maybe it's time to just let that go.

Freedom, I'm so sorry about your BFN. You seem un-suicidal...how do you manage the disappointment? Does it feel like heartache? I want it to not feel like heartache. I will be trying IUI soon and am worried that BFNs after assisted conception will just finish me off. Some of you have been through so much and yet seem dignified and upbeat still. I feel a little ashamed that I react so badly to a BFN.

EuroShagmore · 05/01/2013 17:37

Buzz my end is enjoying a few days off as it is now in the 2ww. Grin

I occasionally get sad that we have ended up at IVF, but I'm more at ease with it than I was in the summer, and happy that I will not be taking the headfuck drugs again.

Sorry about your BFN freedom

akuabadoll · 05/01/2013 17:49

yes, sorry bout the BNF freedom that sucks. Good for you finding good things to be enjoying this Saturday.
Hi to all the self proclaimed weight gainers. You can add me to the list. I'm bigger than I have ever been in my life, as is Ken, and he can't blame IVF drugs. It's a dull dry and low carb January in the Doll house.
buzzy nooooo it's pouring with rain just like everyday in the UK. I was just told at a vile kids party that I missed two weeks of sun though. So that's great.

buzzybee123 · 05/01/2013 20:40

euro I thought you had sore boobs and was near the end of your 2ww?? You could still have the month before updiffness before IVF :)

free sorry I missed your post earlier and sorry about the BFN, I think it was lucky number 4 for lemon with the IUI.

doll does help if I tell you it has stopped raining here Wink

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viviennewestwould · 05/01/2013 22:18

He is home and he is wasted. My wonderful, selfless, magnificent man is staggering drunk. He is laughing in my face saying he has been drinking 'for months'. We are finished. I am beyond devastated but I am apoplectic with rage that he has been deceiving me and my family, who adore him. I am lost. Where do I go from here? 2.5 years of sobriety he has thrown down the drain. He is respected, loved and admired by everyone who has watched and been a part of our recovery. He has a son. He has a new job. My life is now over as I knew it but I know his life is over full-stop. I am beyond devastated that he has allowed me to waste a year of my life trying for a baby with him. I'm losing my mind.

buzzybee123 · 05/01/2013 22:30

oh viv I am so sorry, can you go and stay with someone, big hugs

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sarlat · 06/01/2013 09:59

Hello - yoohooo. Can I pop back in?

I have missed you ladies. I did benefit from time away (all 2 weeks of it) but to be honest I have been flat out busy with various things that I wouldn't have had time to post just recently anyway. I did dream about you as well. Often we were meeting up in restaurants. Once Will and Kate were there too Confused

I wouldn't say I am now a model of calm and positivity who is accepting of my lot. But I have re-gained a little bit of 'listening to my inner voice'. Sorry I know that is ultra naff. I use to be able to predict what would happen in my life - and it always came true. So I am trying to listen to my instincts again. 60% of me is feeling that tomorrows lap and dilation will help me. 40% is as shit scared as always.

Hello to the new ladies on the thread. Sorry you find yourself here but things will be better now you have this lovely bunch to chat to - it is a great release and source of knowledge which I'm sure you have already found.

Just to give some info for those who don't know mw - I'm 33, DH 48. Been ttc for over 2.5 years. Got pregnant first month of trying and miscarried at 6 weeks. HSG showed tubal damage, but maybe not blocked. The cause may be the miscarriage. Type and extent of tubal damage isn't clear, hense my lap tomorrow. Had lots of difficulty coming to terms with said tubal damage. Also had IVF earlier this year. First cycle and follow up FET both BFN despite good embryos. Dh's SA apparatly ok.

I'm sorry I don't know everything that's been going on with you lot. But I have managed to gleen a few bits.

Joy - sweetheart - how brave are you! Keep going with the treatment and wishing you loads of luck.

Art - it sounds like the most recent scan was good - are you ok my lovely?

Den - your plans sound sensible. I think your Dr's are handling things far better than mine have. Be very proud of yourself for tackling this head on.

Critter - hooray for periods and heres to ongoing eggy cycles.

Madness - did they remove a tube? The tube that you thought would be removed? Can you give me a quick update. I hope the next few months fly by.

Sorry for BFN's, FB crapola, PMT and arguments. Sorry for any big stories and traumas that I have missed.

Viv - aw honey. Goodness me, what a nasty shock. You know sometimes things have to get worse before they get better. Take a deep breath. I can't comment on your relationship but from what your wrote, I think there is lots of deep and unresolved emotion which needs to come out of both of you. That does not have to mean this is the end - far from it. This could be the start of things getting better. Don't do anything rash. Let him have time and sober up. People are complex and good people do bad things. Big hugs and take care.

So I have to be at hospital for 7.3o tomorrow. This op is a good thing right? I keep fantasising that they will 'repair' me and that I get pregnant immediatly after. Don't know if positive thinking like this is helpful or not. Hand holding would be great.

ThatWayMadnessLies · 06/01/2013 10:21

Welcome back sar Grin. Here for some Pre-lap hand holding. Everyone else can skim over my update as they've heard it all before. They did remove a tube, but not the one I thought Confused. I'm seeing the consultant Tuesday for some discussion where I am not out of it on the anaesthetic drugs. There was an infection again which I think had pretty much killed my left tube. They said that it was all matted and stuck down with adhesions. Definitely wasn't helping me at all. He said my right tube was okay but I am unsure whether that means that they drained the hydrosalpinx or that it wasn't there. They've drained a cyst and cleared away some adhesions and now I'm on decapeptyl (essentially downregging) to halt the spread of the endo until we go for ivf in a few months (fingers crossed). That may sound quite scary but I am completely at peace with having the tube gone.knowing is 100 times better than not knowing and you will most likely wake up to some answers that will make your TTC struggles make more sense. Have a lovely day today and I'll be thinking of you tomorrow. Rabbit will have your medal as well I'm sure Grin

viv sorry things have taken this turn. As the daughter of an alcoholic I have seen how hard staying sober can be. My father managed years without drinking but he always relapsed. I hope that you are both in a better place this morning.

freedom2011 · 06/01/2013 10:40

viv I am so, so sorry to read your last post. Like madness, I hope things are looking clearer today.

EuroShagmore · 06/01/2013 10:51

viv I'm so sorry to read your post.

Welcome back sar. I hope the lap goes well.

buzz I'm only about 3 days into the 2ww now. I do have sore boobs though. They start immediately after ov for me. Not menkulling yet.