Months on and most people are pregnant so I'm starting a new thread Come and join me if you've been TTC a while or are TTC after pregnancy loss... we've been through it all! Pt 2

[mrsnec]

HK, Munch, Els, Rach and Tas where are you and more importantly, how are you? Sorry if I forgot anyone. Looking forward to updates!

[AlmondFrangipani]

Hi All!

Can I join?? How are you Munchin (I remember you from other threads)??

A brief well not that brief intro from me. I had a mc in Aug/Sep at 7.5 weeks with #1. My cycles have been a bit weird since and not a wisp of a BFP since (despite targeted TTC!). My cycles have got shorter (25 days long) but with late ov (CD19 on average) so I have been consulting Dr Google and apparently that means I could have Luteal Phase Defect which basically means you cant sustain pg eeek! I went to the Doc and he basically dismissed me and said I am obviously fertile and as we have been only trying for 6 months then I would have to wait 1-2 years on the NHS for any help. So...I am taking matters in to my own hands and got some Vit B6 which I have been taking for a month and some Evening Primrose Oil to help my cycles. Fingers crossed it does something...currently on CD21 but no +opk's but estimated ov on CD18.

Anyone testing soon?

Sorry for the long intro (TTC just isnt simple is it!). Looking forward to getting to know you.

[MunchinMango]

Hiya Almond your very welcome and yes we have chatted before on other threads. Really crap of doctor just to dis you like that. But I would agree if you are sure you are ov'ing so late then the lp is very short. But I've read that the b vits should help with that. On the epo be careful to stop taking it after you have ov'ed. (Not 100% sure but think I remember it can cause you to mc.) This ttc lark is defo hard work!!! Don't worry about no +opk as if you only test once a day you may have missed the surge. I'm still in the dtd season so not on 2ww yet.

[mrsnec]

Hi All! Els glad you are ok. That sounds like my kind of weekend! I'm dying to see both those films at the moment although our local cinema has stopped advertising if they are showing dubbed or subtitled versions. You have to take pot luck when you get there. It'll be odd seeing Daniel Craig speaking Greek! Think we'll wait for downloads. I love the thought of Javier Bardem as the new baddie too! Feeling a bit better but bit down about the ttc thing at the moment. Feel like everyone is pg except me even when I open a mag some other celeb is flaunting a bump. I think it's birthday looming too. Really wanted to be pg before I hit 35. The pregnant couple in question are still in our face a bit. It's DH's DU and he wants DH to be more inolved and interested in their baby but we're both finding it hard at the moment. I think we are going to have to be honest with people. Anyway enough about me. Welcome Almond. I diagnosed myself with LPD too. I have been taking Bvits for 2 cycles and have got my luteal phase from about 9 to 13 days on my last cycle. I've read LPD sufferes can be oestrogen dominant too so I've got some progesterone cream to try for the first time this month. I'm going to start 2 days after ov. Munch that's great news on your ov! Hope this is our month!

[elsabel]

Great news about your smiley faces Munch! I have fingers x for you this month! Sorry youre feeling so down mrs, i really hope you have some luck soon, its more frustrating than anything sometimes isnt it, especially when it feels like everyone else is pg and your relatives dont help either. Are you going to do anything nice for your birthday or try and avoid and forget it?!

Welcome Almond! I dont know much about LPD but youre doctor sounds very insensitive, I would try and see another one if I were you. It sounds like youre really taking matters into your own hands though and not giving up which is good. This thread is a nice one though and great for hand holding through the stressful ttc, im pregnant and still on here as it feels like home now!

[MunchinMango]

Sorry that you are feeling down Mrs but I can totally appreciate why. It's hard to keep motivated and positive all the time. Of course your dh cousins news has hit yous both hard. Maybe try and say that yous keep doing the same for the rest of this year. Plan something nice for your birthday and Xmas. Then in the new year if not pg go and start investigations. For me we have decided to seriously try until next march and if no joy then we are calling time. I felt better just knowing we had a plan.

Els thanks for fx. No smiley this morning and we didn't dtd last night as both wrecked tired and 3 nights in a row too much to sustain!!! So I'll just keep temping and see what happens. How are you doing? Is your 12 week scan next week?

Any sign of Tas?? Or any of the other ladies?

Almond did you get any more info on luteal phase issue?

[AlmondFrangipani]

Hi All,

Mrs that is positive to hear about the bvits! Fingers crossed it works for me this month! I am going to get some progesterone cream too. Sorry to hear about your family not being very sensitive. I dont know about you but I have been feeling more and more bitter (trying so hard not so show it to anyone's face) about friends getting pg. I am going to a primary school reunion at Christmas as pretty much everyone has 1 if not 2 kids. Feel like the odd one out..

Elsabel thanks for the welcome. I was a bit taken a back from the doctor tbh as he has been very supportive in the past. I think I will try my 'own way' until Feb and then go back if no luck. How many weeks are you?

Munch we're lucky if we manage 2 nights in a row so good work! Feel pretty armed with info on the LPD and have actually booked to see a reflexologist tomorrow evening. It is a lady my Mum was recommended at the dentist (?!) who specialises in fertility. She sounded lovely on the phone and said she can definitely help and straighten out my cycles. I really hope so...

Well I have been symptom spotting already at 4dpo (at my best guess). Had crampy feelings and slighly sore boobs. Trying not to get my hopes up too much. If my cycles are still short I will get AF this weekend so it could just be that...

[elsabel]

Munch - that sounds like a good idea whatever you both need to stay sane as the whole ttc thing really is so stressful and exhausing. That is good going with dtd, my boyfriend isnt happy as ive been so paranoid since finding out im pg weve done nothing since!!

I have my 12 week scan on friday...eek very nervous and excited! I will be 12 weeks on saturday and then have a week off work i booked ages ago so am anxious for the weekend to arrive for lots of reasons!

Almond- i hope your cramps and sore boobs have a good meaning behind them...keep us up to date on whats going on!

[mrsnec]

Hi All! Hope the scan goes well Els! Munch that film sounds great too and on the subject of ttc that's good going with the 3 nights in a row! Don't think we've ever managed that! But have now decided that pre seed will be the next thing to try even though I dismissed the idea before! FX for you Almond. I didn't go to docs with my LPD but from what I read online it does sound like it's something not all GPs have a great understanding of. Also I read that there are cases of healthy pregnancies in women with Lp of About 10 days! I'd feel better if I could get mine to 14 though. Not that I enjoy the 2WW! Very brave going to school reunion. I couldn't do that! Well not in my current state of mind anyway. I'm feeling a bit better about things. I think it all happened at once I know plenty of women have healthy babies into their 40's but I recently found out there is a history of birth defects in my family after this age, then the fact that this is cycle 24, the pg announcements and my b'day next month it was all a bit much. But we all know this is a bit of a rollercoaster! No plans for my b'day. Finances aren't great. Probably a good thing for it to be low key. Munch I agree it's great to have a plan. I'm trying to get DH to do that. Had a chat about it the other night after things weren't going that well in the bedroom department. He thinks it's a bad idea as we're 'over-thinking' everything too much already. I kind of agree I do feel under a lot of pressure. But I've lost track of my cycle days. I'll stop temping and I set a reminder so I know when to start the cream and we'll just dtd as much as poss until then and see what happens!

[MunchinMango]

Els best of luck for tommorrow, wishing you a happy scan. Let us know how you get on.

Almond hopefully it's pg symptoms and not AF coming early again. But if it is you are armed with a plan to sort that lp out.

Mrs try not to panic you are only going 35!!! I had my dd at 36 and she was perfect. I on the other hand will be turning 41!!! Its totally understandable how everthing together woukd get you down. Maybe plan a night away in a nice hotel and dinner for your birthday. We didn't dtd successfully the third night as dh was at college and too wrecked. But I can defo say preseed done the trick for us. (Tmi alert- I was just too dry and I think that was what was causing us problems) my temps are rising so I suspect I may have ov'ed but my only worry is our two attempts may not have been close enough to ov. But hey we will try again next month. At least I am getting to try. !!!

[tasjaSAmuminSA]

Hi ladies!
Sorry I haven't been on in a while. Damn internet didn't work the times that I wanted to post!
A week ago DH lost his job!!! i don't know what we're going to do in the next few months. I really hope he gets a job fast! Luckily he got in at a clinic here to go and see a phsyciatrist. There's a waiting list for 6 months but luckily??? he was put on the urgency one so he will start therapy soon! It really scared me because I didn't think my DH really needed it. Just thought it was for the CCMA trial for the work. But seems it is a reality and I asked him about it today and he says there is a few things thats bothering him but he don't want me to stress.
the other shocking (and confusing) news is on Tuesday I started bleeding. Very lightly but after the MC I didn't want to take any chances so I phoned my gyno and told him and I went in straight away. Bless my principal-she gave me off immediately the whole day. He did a scan and we saw a heartbeat . it was soooo tiny - like a needle point. Does anyone know of a similar story? I thought that I only needed to hear the heartbeat and everything would be fine. And now this. I'm going for another scan on Tuesday and pray and believe that this one will stick

[tasjaSAmuminSA]

Ag shit! I see I wiped part of my story!!!!!!
The bad news is that the sac is very small. The gyno said it worries him that the sac is small and the bleeding. I haven't ask questions (i was in shock - again) He gave me hormonal pills and said it will support the sac. I don't know if it will make it grow or what? Does anyone know of a story about this? i've been looking on the internet but can't find anything about someone who has a small sac and taking the hormonal pills.

[mrsnec]

Hi Tas sorry to hear about the job. I hope he finds something soon and I hope everything works out for you. I'm sure you will be ok and he's doing the right thing going to get some help. I don't have any experience of what you're going through with this pg but I did have a quick look online out of curiosity. From what I read a lot of the time when a GP says this it turns out that the pregnancy isn't as far on as first thought. The hormones just support development. And you saw a heartbeat didn't you? Just hold on to that. It's great they are monitoring you so closely. Munch how's things? We had exactly the same problem the other night. It was the first time it has ever happened! Had to resort to some dodgy Ann Summers Massage oil we've not touched since before we got married! Had a massive word with myself about the age thing. I'm being silly am not exactly a pensioner! Almond and Els any news? Have a great weekend all!

[elsabel]

Scan was amazing, i am 12 weeks and 5 days so a bit further along than i thought and he or she was moving around loads very active! Were so happy! Also my sister had her baby today she had a boy weighing a big 9lb 12oz! Pheeewww

Tas sorry youre having a bad time but i think its definatly a good sign you saw a heartbeat! And theye keeping a close eye on you so thats good and not long til tuesday xx

Have a good weekend everyone hope munch and mrs both dtd successfuly!

[MunchinMango]

Hi ladies.

Tas omg lots have been happening with you. Sorry your dh lost his job and sorry he is feeling stressed etc. I'm sure job wasn't helping. Hopefully he gets help he needs now. Fx for your scan tomorrow. Hopefully it's as mrs has said your not as far on as thought.

Els fantastic news about your scan. It must be a huge relief. Hopefully you can start to enjoy this pg abit more now.
Congrats to your sister, wow that was a big baby.

Mrs how's it going. Well preseed is definitely great for that complaint and ttc friendly. I think it's the pressure of having to ttc as opposed to being spontaneous!!

Well I'm on cd 21 at mo and temps are all over the place, rising and falling like a yo yo. I've even got ff baffled.

Waves to almond, rachie and anyone else I've missed.

[AlmondFrangipani]

Hi all,

How was everyone's weekend? We've been house hunting so good excuse to try out all the pubs we come across !

Els awww! Great news about the scan!! That is a relief isnt it. Ouch on your sister's baby. I just cant think that far ahead!!

Munch how long have you been temping? I tried it but mine were all over the place too so gave up.

Tas any news? Sorry to hear about all the crappiness your end.

So...still now AF. On CD28 which is my longest cycle for in 4 months (previously 25 days) which also means I have hit a 10 day Luteal Phase!! Yeah! I am hoping for a couple more days to be in the 'safe zone' or of course a BFP! I have taken about 10 tests (poas addict) but not a hint of a line and I have had cramps for about a week so not holding out too much hope. I dont know if the Vit B has helped or the reflexology session I had but either way I am a bit relieved. The reflexologist said I was all 'clear' and ready for a bun in the oven which is nice to hear. She knew some spooky stuff about me. I am not sure how much it actually works but it was very relaxing either way!!

[hellokittydrivesmenuts]

I have been hunting my nearest and dearest ttc friends as been off the Internet for tooooooooo long! How are you all? What's news?i have missed months :-(
Well I am on day errrrrr 18 I think?!
Dp has his gp appointment Saturday to discuss help on the swimmers front :-)
Love to all xxx

[MunchinMango]

Hiya HK , we wondered where you got to. Great to hear from you. Ah your only three days behind me. Hope dp appoint goes well.

Almond I'm only been temping for cycle and a half. When I look at my graph I wonder if I'm human lol!!! Maybe it's an anovulatory cycle I'm having :( well if a bfp is not to be or you this month at least your cycle is pushing out so that's a step in right direction. I try to see the positive and keep upbeat.

[mrsnec]

Morning All!!

Where do I start! Els, really glad the scan went well. Hope you are ok. You can relax now! & congrats!

HK! Great to have you back! We're still here! You haven't missed much! Let us know how it goes with DP.

Almond, house hunting sounds fun! We put our UK house back on the market last week we've got a lot of competition in the sale and rental market. I think it's the same all over the place so you should get a bargain. Did you find anything? On the ttc front great news about your LP! I haven't tried reflexology but one of my friends is qualified in it and she's had a few pg succcess stories. I have another friend too who gets it regularly and she's been pg loads of times. I can't get my head round how it'd work and think it might be the old cliche about being relaxed!

Munch, does sound odd about your temps but you've had smileys this month. I'd say you'll still be in with a chance although I've consulted Dr Google on this and she said it's normal for most people to have one anovulatory cycly per year if that's the right word! I thought I understood my cycles now and I'd know if I've ov'd this month without sticks or temping by pain & ewcm & I haven't seen either so don't know what's going on with me either! I wasn't sure if I should still start the cream or not but maybe I should just in case.

No news here really. MIL is up to her usual tricks. She even managed to raise the subject of us ttc into a political debate we were having about EU immigration! DH just changed the subject. I wish he'd just tell her and get her to stop sticking her beak in. He wouldn't dtd that night. Or talk about it.

Anyway enough about that Tas & Rach, Any news?

[hellokittydrivesmenuts]

Hi all, mrs mil :-( grrrrrrrr!!!
Munch yes we have almost synced :-)
Today went to music with the little man I look after in a Tuesday and everyone was pregnant bar a dad that went who looked pregnant lol!
It's raining and windy too so had to stay til end as would have been soaked!
Only 4 more sleeps til gp appointment.
Where is everyone with testing?
Xx

[hellokittydrivesmenuts]

Tas- just saw your news congrats! My dd was exactly the same, I bled all the way through and she was small for dates was 5lb 4oz at term! Had to be scanned every week they prepared me for worst all the way through but is a very healthy 4 1/2 year old although has a reversed heart but been discharged from great Ormand street now :-) will send up prayers for a wonderful out come for you too!!! They did at one stage think she ws a twin???? Xx

[MunchinMango]

Mrs your mil is at it again I see. I'd love to shake her and tell her to cop on and have some tact and sensitivity. Thanks for searching on dr google for me. What will be will be I suppose.

Hk, that was hard sitting in room full of pg ladies.

Well I'm on cd 22 here. My Xmas party is next week and don't know whether to test before or after it?? My work buddies are quite perceptive and would smell a rat if I wasn't drinking. (I realise this is all just wishfull thinking)

[mrsnec]

Morning All!
Tas-you ok? HK- I didn't realise you'd been through so much with DD. Must have been terribly hard on you all. Glad she's ok now and hope your experience can give Tas some comfort. Know how you feel about everyone being pg at the moment.

Munch- Difficult one re works do! I'm still far to scared to test each month. I'd only do it if I was really late or felt really pg! I think you should wait and see how you feel on the day. Would you get away with making one or two drinks last all night? Anyway the usual FX goes without saying. On another note I was also consulting Dr Google for my own info too as I got the day 21 reminder that I set for myself yesterday which is the day I've ov'd for ages anyway now it's CD22 and I've not had ov pain or ewcm so I'm not sure I ov'd this month.

This was MIL's corker of a quote ' If you wan't to make the immigration process easier it's just another reason why you need to crack on with making a little Cypriot citizen of your own then you don't have to worry about the paperwork' Am now dreading Xmas day!

Almond- You tested yet?

Have a great day everyone!

[AlmondFrangipani]

Morning!

So I have been feeding my poas obsession (10 tests so far this month) and...I got a very faint BFP on a FRER this morning!!! Got some very mixed emotions between happiness and fear after my previous mc. Tried a CB Digital and it said 'Not Pregnant'. I am guessing it is too early to show up on that?? Would feel happier seeing 'Pregnant' in clear black and white!

[mrsnec]

Almond congrats! Don't be scared! The only BFP I've ever had was V dark but I was about 6 weeks. Generaly the consensus on here is that a line is a line though! I know some docs say their tests are the same as commercial ones but due to MC might be worth calling them to see if you can get a blood test to check hormone levels. Or just keep poas till it's sunk in! Let us know how you get on!

[MunchinMango]

Good morning and wow another bfp. Huge congrats almond. Like mrs said a line is a line. I'd test with your cb digi either tomorrow or next day with fmu as its the best time and also hcg will have increased. Good to know though that even after getting - tests it can turn +.

Mrs your mil is a ticket. I think I would have told her by now just to shut her up but then again sounds like she'd get right in meddling offering advice etc. Who needs ttc advice from their mil lol!!!! Re ov doesn't mean you haven't or maybe you will have a later ov. This month bar the +opk I have had no symptoms either and from past experience the +opk doesn't guarantee ov either.