Months on and most people are pregnant so I'm starting a new thread Come and join me if you've been TTC a while or are TTC after pregnancy loss... we've been through it all! Pt 2

[mrsnec]

HK, Munch, Els, Rach and Tas where are you and more importantly, how are you? Sorry if I forgot anyone. Looking forward to updates!

Hiya mrs, thanks for starting new thread. I thought yous had all disappeared :( how are you doing? Very envious of your warm climate now as its gotten very cold.

Well I'm on cd51!! I kid you not!!! Still no sign of AF. Another wtf cycle I guess. But something is definitely going on. Two weeks ago my boobs got very sore and I had a lot of crampy dull aches which lasted a week and the soreness peaked last sat and que lots of cm (not fertile looking) and have loads everyday since. But boobs no longer sore. I'm temping for over 2 weeks now and hard to tell what's going on.

Anyhow looking forward to hearing from you all.

Hi Munch. Well I've not been around much as our friends have been here for nearly 2 weeks and we've been away with them during that time too. Sorry to hear about your cold weather. Yes it's still warm here but getting cooler at night and dark early so can feel really cosy in the evenings. Best of both worlds! My favourite time of year here. Not sure what to make of your cycle. If it was me I'd be a bit frustrated. Did you test again just in case it's a bfp? If not would you need to have another word with your doc? I'm on CD 28 today. I used my opks from CD 14-21. I didn't get any smileys. 5 neg and then 2 errors. No idea what I was doing wrong. On the 2 days I had the errors I saw ewcm for the first time in ages. We managed to dtd that day too as it was when we were away and we stayed in a seperate bungalow to our friends. It was all quite romantic actualy! Anyway since I saw the ewcm on the days I thought I was going to ov then I don't see much point in trying opks again. Last lot just seemed a waste of money. I'm ok in myself at the moment ish but I didn't get that job I went for, my next cycle will be no 24 and we've got no more visitors until next year so I wont see any of my family for xmas again so I sometimes find it hard to stay upbeat! Enough of my ramblings! Hope everyone else is ok!

Hiya mrs your hol sounds great. Good that you got to rekindle the romance as it easily can get lost in the whole ttc madness. Well judging by your ewcm you seemed to have dtd at the right time. Typical the opks malfunctioned on those days. Could you not manage a trip to see your family over the Xmas? Sorry you lost out on that job.

Yes dh was saying to me also to go to the doctor. I think I will at Xmas. Today I saw defo ewcm fir the first time in months so maybe my body just took its own sweet time to get back in action. Now only thing is to grab dh for some dtd!!! And also not to let him know its the right time as I feel that puts too much pressure on him.

Any plans for the weekend?

Any sign of the rest of the ladies or any newbies?

Hi Ladies!
I have LOTS of news to tell you. Lots has been happening!
Remember my school concert? Well, with all the preparation and practice and stress from the concert I realised with a shock on Monday that I'm 4 days late! So I went to buy a test. Did it that evening - I couldn't wait till the next morning. It was negative. But it took ages to show the result so I thought there was something wrong with it.
So yesterday I bought another test and did it last night. It was negative. Only to see the same test lying there this morning with 2 faint lines. So I showed it to my friend and she said YES I'm pregnant. But I don't want to get too excited , I'll do a test on Sunday MORNING to be 100% sure.
The BAD news is this:
My DH went to work on Wednesday and when he got there they handed him a notice for diciplinary hearing. Why? Because he said on Facebook: Friends, please pray that I can find another job because the stress is killing me.
Can you believe this? Now he's suspended till the hearing that was suppose to be today but he went to the doctor and she booked him off with severe depression and stress.
Not really good timing if there's a baby on the way! 2 years ago he was fired from his job because he was working on his own business (in his own time!!!!) and he looked for 4 months till he got a new job. Remember: In SA there's no benefits and things like that. He can only claim UIF that is about a third of his salary! So If he loses his job we are basically screwed! A bit stressfull but trying to take it very easy and to relax! Don't want another mc again IF I'm pg. Having faith! xxxxx

Hello ladies ive been looking for you since the last thread disappeared and am very pleased i found you!

Firstly...congrats tas thats amazing news bet you are very anxiously happy i know how you must feel.try and stay calm and take a day at a time thats what i have done (not easy though i know) Sorry about your dh and the job facebook is a pain in the arse nothing is secret anymore big brother is always watching!

How is everyone else? Glad youre having a lovely time mrs wherever you are, sounds nice.

Munch-sounds like your body is really messing you around you poor thing, but hopefully its getting sorted now xx

All is ok my end (i hope fingers x) 9 weeks tomorrow and still worry alot but trying to stay positive just cant wait for it to be 12 weeks!! Hi to anyone else who is watching but keeping quiet hope everyone is good xx

Hi All Munch that's a good idea about going to docs then but I hope it's for another reason! Agree about not telling DH when it's a good time though. I do the same. Tas that's amazing news. Goes to show keeping busy is a good thing too. Really hope everything works out with the job situation. Definately agree with what Els says about Facebook. Glad you're ok to Els and things progressing well. Anyway, still not sure what went on with those opks. I read you can contact CB to get replacements and that Amazon often sell some that are out of date. But my friend said it's cos the sticks were 'confused' cos I eat so much meat that's loaded with hormones but I'm not so sure about that! On another note I did think about going home for Xmas. Trouble is the past few years it's been all about the children in my family. I'm not a jealous person by nature but I don't like seeing DM playing granny to other people's kids. My parents have 9 step grandchildren between them but none of their own. This feeling gets worse the longer this ttc lark is taking and is worse than ever at Xmas. My plan is to try and do Xmas here and invite dpils, neighbours, and any clients we have that have come over for xmas and try and make it a good one then use the money I would have spent on flights home on another short break in Feb but go somewhere a bit more adventureous! Think it'll help having something to look forward to! Hope you all have a great weekend. We're off North again across to the Turkish side as my friend managed to lose her DP's keys at those bungalows in the mountains we stayed at last weekend. We've decided to go back and find them and make a day of it!

Good morning ladies. It's very frosty!!!

Tas omg a bfp!!! Congrats. Just shows you when you forget about ttc it actually happens. Sorry to hear about your dh but unfortunately I have heard similar things happen to people who commented on Facebook. But I must say your dh comment was harmless enough. Hopefully it blows over.

Mrs how did the key hunting go? Eh I think idea that you eat too much meat confusing opks sounds a bit bananas to me. I understand now totally why Xmas at home with relatives would be too painful. Better to have nice holiday to look forward to.

Els woohoo 9 weeks. That's great. Roll on until its your scan at 12 weeks.

All good here, not great on dtd front :( , all that cm has disappeared now do maybe I'm into the 2ww now although only thing I can seriously look forward to us getting AF. I think it would be a miracle for anything else.

Munch - hang in there - all good things comes to those who waits.

Mrs - did you get the keys back?

Gyno told me today I need to go for bloodtest so that they can see if baby is ok. So with the LDMS date and the HcG hormone they can determine if baby is fine??? They will phone me tomorrow they said. I'm a bit scared.

Hi Tas, oh fx that all is ok. I suppose they have an idea of what level your hcg should be at for your dates. I can only imagine that's all they can tell from a blood test. I'm sure you have been doing tests every day?? (Well that's what I have done in the past) has the line been getting darker or if you did the cb digital one that dates your pg it would change from 1-2 weeks etc.

How is everyone else doing?

Well AF arrived today and I'm actually relieved. I can't say if I o'd or not during the cycle. But here's to a new cycle and I armed with tests galore, temping etc. As I feel we will only keep trying for another few months I'm going to give it my best shot.

Oh Tas can imagine you must be nervous but at least theyre keeping an eye on you and hopefully all is good and it will be a huge reassurance for you.

I went for my first midwife appointment today and she said i could get my nuchal scan as early as next week, I am counting the days right now to get past the point I was at last time.

Good luck with your new cycle Munch, fingers crossed for lots of cm and dtd!!

How is everyone else? xx

Hi All! Els sounds like thinks are progressing well! And you Tas I agree with what the others say that it's good they're keeping an eye on you. Don't forget to keep us up to date with it all and the job situation too! Munch good news. I agree with the action plan too. The more I read the more convinced I am that temping is the way to go but I haven't tried it yet. Anyway, I've been lurking this week cos I was feeling a bit hopeful and didn't want to tempt fate. Body playing her usual tricks and threw in a few more new symptoms for good measure! The witch got me today though. 34 day cycle this time though which means I've got my LP to 13 so I should see that as a result. I'd reduced my B vit dose by half too as they were upsetting my stomach a bit. However do feel a bit miffed and sorry to be negative Tas, I don't share the belief that good things come to those who wait. I've been waiting long enough! This is now cycle 24! In other news, got my friends keys. Didn't end up making a day of it in the end as DH had to work in the morning. Not sure why we bothered really as friends didn't appreciate the effort and cost us a lot. But I'm not all doom and gloom, DH's Nan is here on holiday staying with DPILs. Having an early Xmas celebration this weekend. And we've booked a little holiday so I have something to look forward to. 4 days in Venice in Feb. Can't wait! Hope you are all ok. Looking forward to hearing your news. Anyone up to anything this weekend?

Hiya Ladies

Great to hear from you and that all is still progressing nicely. Fx you have a great nuchal scan and you can maybe start to enjoy this pg.

Tas any updates with those blood tests?

Mrs I was thinking you were very quiet. Sorry Af played tricks on you again but great that the vitamin B tabs lenghtened your LP. Maybe just take them every other day if you find them hard on your stomach or try a different brand? Its very disheartening to be ttc for 2 years. Maybe put a plan in action for yourself. Try temping for a few cycles to see if that helps and I saw basal thermometers as cheap as 3.99 on amazon. Buy maybe sometime in the new year would you consider going to doctor to discuss having some tests done? I don't mean to panic you and I'm sure all is ok. (Btw this is from me who puts off going to the doctor to look about things for herself!!! so i am no one to talk) My friend had been ttc for over 2 years and got fed up and booked an appoint with a clinic but fell pg herself before the appoint came up. Bravo on finding the keys, you'd think your friends would be more appreciative. Enjoy the festivities this weekend.

Well my af has certainly come with a bang. I can honestly say its the first normal af I have had since coming off the pill in Aug 2011. Now to see if it will return on a more regular basis. But for now I am starting to hope again.

Any sign of Hellokitty, Rachie, Lynzi or Berries?

Morning All, yes definately been thinking about an action plan. I'll tell you a bit about my doctorphobia. I had an accident a few years ago. I had a laporotomy and was discharged from hospital with no refferals and no explaination about what they'd done. I had 2 years of complications and 4 GPs. They didn't help. Before we started ttc I paid a private consultant to examine me and review my file and she told me there was no damage to my reproductive organs and thought I'd have no trouble concieving. But she did say she didn't think my stomach muscles would support a pregnancy though as the surgeon cut them the wrong way but I then went to another one who said they'd never known that to be a problem! Anyway, we'll have to go private here. But that's ok. It's kind of done on a pay as you go basis and you go straight to the person you think you need to see so none of this waiting for a refferal type business! I do wonder if my issue could be hormonal. When I first got pg I was on the mini-pill. I was constantly changing brands as I had hormone imbalances all the time. That pill was the lowest possible dose I was ill and I took it late but would have had good progesterone levels as a result. Low progesterone is also a cause of LPD. So I'm considering trying progesterone cream. Also, I know this will sound wrong to some but I feel like I'm assuming I'm the one with the problem and I have concieved before. DH hasn't. And it could just as easily be an issue with him. Yet he wont accept that and just jokes about it. Having said all that,(which makes me question if he'll be a good father and wonder why we're doing this) I still think the health issues play a major part. I've had a word with DH about that too and he knows that the less he drinks and smokes the more action he's going to get! But I think we need to be dtd more still and give it 4 more months then I think getting my bloods done and his sample looked at will be a good start. But you're right munch, think I can stretch to 3? just to make sure I am ovulating on day 21!

Hiya mrs. I can totally understand your loathing to have to go for tests. That was awful what happened to you. My friend recently went through tests to check out her and her dh so I'm well aware of whats involved. I also know how slow I am to look about myself and my erratic cycles. So I am no one to be dishing out advice.Also you shouldn't be so quick to assume that there is something wrong with you and I know the first thing they will do is check your dh sample so they can rule it out. I also can appreciate how touchy a subject it would be to raise with dh. But anyhow I don't think there is any harm giving it another few months til the new year. In the meantime defo try the temping to see if that sheds any light. I find fertility friend great for imputing your results and its displayed in graphs as well.

Well it's a lovely wet day here:( dh has flu and I hope the rest of us font get it. My AF is still continuing to what I remember it to be pre mc and pre pill!!! So fx.

Hi ladies
Mrs-I can understand your doctorphobia. I would also feel that way.
I tried to chat on thursday but my internet wasn't working!
The gyno phoned and told me that the bloodtest looked fine and that he want my appointment for the 20th must be moved on for the 27th because it's still very earlly days. He want to see mee when I'm a bit further.
So hoping everything goes ok this time and anxious to see the heartbeat for the first time. Then I'll relax.
DH's disciplinary hearing is tomorrow afternoon. Please say a prayer for him and keep your fingers crossed!

Mrs thats a really awful thing you went through and can completely understand why you feel the way you do. Its easy to say go to the doctors, i know i avoid it at every cost (unless its about pregnancy in which case I am bugging them every week wanting and appt for reassurance!!)

Tas you will feel much better after youve seen a heartbeat it definatly is a huge comfort. And at least you have the reassurance that all appears normal now. I have my fingers crossed for your dh, hope all goes well.

I had my scan date through yesterday for the 23rd, so less than 2 weeks to wait now. I found out yesterday that my best friend is also pregnant and shes only a month behind me so thats excellent news. Im so happy for her even more so as she has pcos so they wondered if they might have trouble conceiving but it appears not.

Hope everyone has had a good weekend, lets hope the others join us on here soon x

Morning All! Munch How's DH? Got rid of that flu yet? Did the rest of you escape it? It is a good sign that your AF is back to normal. Tas and Els really glad you're both doing well. Tas sending positive thoughts your way re the hearing. Let us know how it goes and I think they've done the right thing with your appointment.Els, that's lovely news about your friend! Anyway, hope you all had a great weekend. I appreciate your understanding of my situation. I've been thinking about it and I decided it was worse as I was on my own. DH was here setting up the business and I was hundreds of miles from my friends and my parents and not on here at the time. I took the 3 PCTs involved in the case (there was a bit more to it) to court and lost. But this time I now know that if I do need any treatment for anything I'm not on my own and I also have the confidence and good judge of character if I don't like the sound of what somebody is telling me. Anyway, hope it doesn't come to that, it's not just the doctorphobia thing, both of us want to do things as naturaly as possible. Bit of a strange weekend here, DH has some close relatives the same age as him. She's just gone back to work after having her daughter a couple of years ago. Anyway they've made a big announcement that they're going to try for their second after she's worked enough to get more maternity pay entitlement. Thought you only made big announcement when actally pg? Am I right in thinking this is a bit odd? Acted happy for them but inside was seeting and thinking no! We're next! Then cross with myself for getting all bitter and twisted in my old age! It did lead to everyone asking us as per. I just said maybe one day and walked away. My family know but as this is DH's family I feel it's his place to tell them if he wants to. On the subject of DH he's drinking less and as we've got loads of fruit on the trees at the moment he's snacking on that and less junk so I'm hopeful he's in better health for the next round! Have a great Monday all, yes where is everyone else?

Hiya ladies, I typed a message last night and it wouldn't post so lost message arrgh!!!

As great news about the blood results and prob best to delay your appoint as there will be more to see even though I can imagine the wait being torturous. How did dh get on yest? I hope all went ok.

Els thats great news about your friend. It will be so nice for the two of yous being pg together. Roll on the next two weeks til your scan.

Mrs that is soo bazaar people making grand announcements about their intention to ttc!!! Also a very insensitive thing to do. They didn't by any chance stage the whole thing to try and find out what your intentions are re ttc. Or am I being super paranoid here ?? Well done to dh on the healthy eating, need to send some of those vibes to me and my dh LOL.

Had a bit of a down day yest. My friend rang me to suggest that we go out (nothing wrong there) and said that she didn't want this month to go without us marking it and I said why and she said well you were due your baby this month and I just burst out crying. She was being very thoughful but I guess I was trying not to think about it. Anyhow dh is grand again and we hopefully are not going to catch it.

Hi All, yes Tas do let us know how things went and Els yes I hope the time goes quickly and your scan is here before you know it. Munch I'm not quite sure what to say about your friend. It does sound like her heart is in the right place and you sound like you are fine in yourself so no harm done. Tell her how you feel though. I must admit, with my friends who've had MCs I never talk about it or bring the subject up unless they do but I have often wondered if this is the right approach or not. Definately something that varies from person to person. Thinking of you anyway and glad you escaped flu too! Yes not paranoid, very strong feeling you're right about DH's family. Couple in question is DH's DU. MIL is one of 5 siblings. DU (her DB) is the only member of her family she's not estranged from. As he's close in age to DH and DH is an only child they were raised like brothers, lived together, went to college together etc. MIL dotes on their daughter. But constantly compares their lives to ours in terms of finances and quality of life etc. It was all a bit odd having a nice time and all of a sudden MIL says 'gather round Skype' DU's got a big announcement! Think I would have felt better about it if they were actually pg! I do sometimes think it's a bit more pressure for us. MIL retired early and I think is very bored. DH isn't phased by the whole thing and I did point out that they've not visited us here yet earn good money, we've not seen them for 5 years and they say they're to busy to return DH's calls so they're irrelevant to me. Although I did get in trouble when I said that!

Mrs so you were set up then!!! You'd respect them more if they just asked you straight out.

I think your right my friend was doing her best but I actually think I don't want to remember the significance of this month. I kept myself going all year saying if I got pg before my due date it would be ok. But alas not to be. I'm on cd 9 now and hoping hoping that I get a shorter cycle and a chance to ttc. I ordered some pre seed so see what that does. What about you???

Hope all is ok Tas?

Morning All! Yes it was a total set up. They are pg. The obligatory 3 month scan pic went up on FB the other day. And MIL knew all along as her trip to the UK next year coinsides with the due date.Obviously I'm happy for them but Why can't they all be normal and honest? And why the build up so they can make the big announcement twice? Back to you Munch apologies for that epic rant! I think I'd be the same as you in your situation. I try to be an onwards and upwards kind of person can make the situation a lot worse by dwelling on the what ifs. I'd love to have thoughtful friends like yours though! Good luck with the pre seed. Not tried it but do remember having a chat about it on the old thread. For now I've decided I'm only going to try things to boost my fertility that have other health benefits. Like the B vits. I've ordered progesterone cream as low progesterone goes with LPD and I have symptoms of oestrogen dominance. Been reading up on all that. It's very interesting. Anyway, if that doesn't work it also helps PMT issues and is less likely to mess up cycles than if you take some of the herbal supplements. Looking forward to trying again this month too but am fighting off the lergy at the moment. Keep telling myself it's not flu!

Mrs rant away. I can't believe such deceit and conniving!!! Sure we knew no one makes a grand announcement that they are ttc. You would have had more respect for them if they just said they were pg at the weekend. But maybe maybe they do know yous are ttc and in their silly twisted way thought this was a better way to break the news ????? Your right though mil seems to be very close to them. Hope you feel better from flu soon.

I know Munch. DH skyped them last night and they made big announcement again as neither of us had commented or 'liked' scan pic! I feigned a congrats and then went to watch telly in the other room. Thankfuly, the cat followed and fell asleep on me so I couldn't move and get involved in the rest of the conversation! (I love that animal! She's so on my wavelength!) anyway, DH has decided he wan't to go too to see the baby when it's born. I'm surprised he's taking an interest to be honest. I'm not sure what to make of it but really I'm just hoping he has a little one of his own to worry about by then! Anyway feel a bit better. My lergy didn't develop into full blown flu thankfullu just really annoying sniffles still hanging around! Hope you're all ok. Any news? Have a great weekend!

Hi all, hope everyone had a good weekend. Mine was quite relaxing which was good went to the cinema a couple of times, to see the new bond movie and also dragged the boyfriend along to see the new twilight one aswell! Anyone seen either?

How is everyone, hope youre feeling better mrs? Ive been half expecting to catch something myself although ive had the flu jab thankfully.

Fingers crossed for this month for both of you, and hopefully this is a shorter cycle for you munch, i know next to nothing about pre seed or other supplements but hopefully they bring you some luck.

How are you Tas? X

Good morning ladies.

Mrs hopefully you will be pg with your own baby by the time your friends baby is born.

Good to hear all is well with you Els. No haven't seen either movie yet. Saw a real chick flick The Sapphires, it was a laugh and just what I needed.

Well in ttc land I got +opk on sat morning, Sunday morning and again this morning. A bit weird as I never had smileys three days running. Anyhow the pre seed did the trick we dtd sat and sun but now we should really tonight also due to +opk and ff has not confirmed ov yet from my temps.!!!