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I am interested in surrogacy

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TheCunnyFuntOfEastwick · 29/10/2012 22:14

I'd love to be able to help someone who desperately wanted a child but couldn't. DP says he totally agrees and he would be with me every step of the way.

But, I don't know how/where to begin!

Also posted this in chat as none of the topics seemed the right place.

If anyone could give me any help and pointers that would be wonderful, thank you.

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TheCunnyFuntOfEastwick · 30/10/2012 19:41

Why? Could they get in trouble or something?

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MrsjREwing · 30/10/2012 19:48

I met a lady on holiday a few years back, she had just been a surrogate. She used her money for the holiday, they looked a right depressed family, the kids too.

You are very young OP.

This relative who just found out she was adopted, how has it affected you all?

Dru77 · 30/10/2012 19:55

My sister was a surrogate twice for the same couple through COTS. She kept in touch with the family, not sure if that is still the case but they and the kids were at her second wedding 6 years ago. She seemed to enjoy the experience and had her own kids before and after the surrogacy.

Dru77 · 30/10/2012 19:59

I should add I think she was, in part, financially motivated as although you can't receive payment you can get reasonable expenses paid. I think her 'reasonable expenses' included a car, £10k, holidays and loans.

TheCunnyFuntOfEastwick · 30/10/2012 20:46

I know I'm young now, but this may not happen for a couple of years yet, who knows?

Tbh Mrsj I don't see that side of the family very often. The only reason she found out was because a tumour was found on her liver and as she has had cancer 3 times already everyone was worried sick and it came out then. Not sure how or why though. Thankfully the tumour is benign.

10k???? Bloody hell. I hadn't even thought of money! I just want to help someone. Money like that would, admittedly be a bonus (we are hoping to get married in a few years), but I don't see it as a reason to do it.

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DeadQODy · 30/10/2012 20:50

My dd is 13 and from straight surrogacy.
My friend offered as I was/am unable to conceive

Tis an amazing thing.

I second COTS, we joined just for the support and company

MrsjREwing · 30/10/2012 20:52

OP you sound like a lovely person, make sure someone older and wiser (not an agency person) helps you choose a good family to have a baby for, there are a lot of nasty bastard wolf's in sheep clothing out there who will butter you up to begin with.

What a nasty thing to do to the child, tell it lies over all those years.

TheCunnyFuntOfEastwick · 30/10/2012 22:21

Mrsj what exactly do you mean about the nasty bastard wolves?

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AitchDee · 30/10/2012 22:35

I've had four surrogate babies through COTs.

I'd do it 100 times over if I could.

I don't see the babies/children created as mine and can easily separate myself from them. My children are mine, made with my husband, and the surrogate children aren't, even though two of them are genetically half mine.

I see them regularly. I saw two today, twins who are now 4. On Saturday I saw the youngest, a little boy who is 7 months, and next week I will see the other boy, who is now nearly 3.5.

OP, COTs is a good place to start and they make it very easy. They encourage all prospective parents to consider the implications of having a child through surrogacy and to be open and honest with them and everyone else. Ultimately every experience is different, but the good people vastly outweigh the bad.

AitchDee · 30/10/2012 22:38

Oh, and I would say don't go into it thinking it will be easy and a piece of piss, because for many it isn't. There is nothing wrong with forming a bond with the baby, or loving it, or being sad to say goodbye. you don't have to be an emotional robot to do surrogacy, you just have to know that you are strong enough to do your very best for him/her for nine months, and then pass on the responsibility to the parents.

elliepac · 30/10/2012 22:46

An amazing young woman somewhere out there is currently carrying my niece/nephew for dsis and bil. This is after dsis had a complete hysterectomy at 30, before she had dc's, as a result of the cancer of the womb.

The process is not without many complications and risks but words cannot describe the happiness she will bring into our family in February.

I admire you for even thinking about it OP Smile.

TheCunnyFuntOfEastwick · 31/10/2012 10:39

Thank you Aitch, do you mind if I ask you a few questions? Can PM if you'd prefer but you'd have to PM me first so I can reply to it.

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TheCunnyFuntOfEastwick · 31/10/2012 10:44

Thank you ellie, how sad for your sister, but lovely that she found someone to do this for her. I hope that someday I can bring someone that happiness that they deserve.

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AitchDee · 31/10/2012 12:41

Ask away Cunny. I'll answer anyone's questions about anything at all to do with surrogacy. It's one of the few things in life I am passionate about.

TheCunnyFuntOfEastwick · 31/10/2012 13:28

Ok, thanks. These are the same questions I have asked Eternals friend. The wording is a tad crap because it was first thing this morning when I wrote them Blush :o
Feel free to not answer if you think they're too personal/nosy etc.
1, How simple is the process from the beginning (so form filling etc), to actually being matched with a couple? And roughly how long would it take or does it depend on finding them?
2, How did you actually get pregnant and what was that like?
3, Did you feel any emotional attachment with the bumps, i.e. Did you love them like your own, feel heartbroken at handing the baby over to the parents? Or did you feel more happy and pleased for them just as you would if a friend of yours had just had a baby? (I appreciate this will be different for everyone but I'd like to half know what to expect at this point)

Like I said, you don't have to answer if you feel they're too personal, especially 2 and 3.
Many thanks :)

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MrsjREwing · 31/10/2012 13:37

OP I mean prospective parents who are not all that they seem behind their masks as one day an 18 yo may get in touch and tell you what horrors they experienced and how would you feel knowing you enabled it?

What would happen if you changed your mind and wanted to keep the baby?

TheCunnyFuntOfEastwick · 31/10/2012 13:45

Mrsj I'd feel absolutely terrible if I changed my mind and wanted to keep the baby. Right now, both DP and I are adamant we don't want another child. But if I did change my mind I would hand the baby to its parents although it probably break my heart to do so. But as it stands now, that is unlikely to happen. I do appreciate this may change.

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AitchDee · 31/10/2012 13:53

From form filling to being matched with a couple takes only a few weeks. With COTs, you fill in the forms, then get a visit from someone who will talk to you about being a surrogate. They will leave you a kit to get bloods taken, and forms for your GP to sign stating there is no physical or mental reason as to why you shouldn't proceed. Some GPs are anti-surrogacy, so you may need to try a different one of you face opposition.

Once COTs get your blood results and your GP has given the nod, they then send you the details of IPs (Intended Parents). You read their details and choose who you would like to proceed with.

Your details/phone number will be passed on to the IPs and they then contact you directly.. If you don't feel a bond, or something doesn't seem right, you just tell COTs and you choose another couple until you find a good match.

COTs recommend getting to know each other for at least three months before proceeding with treatment/inseminations but this is flexible. You take as long as you need. You have an 'Agreement Session' which includes you, your couple, and a COTs representative where you will formally discuss things such number of pregnancy attempts, total expenses, abortion, pre-natal tests etc. it's important you are all on the same page just in case something untoward happens.

If you plan on doing Host surrogacy, where the IPs own embryos are created and transferred ino you, then you are at the mercy of the infertility clinic with regards to timescales. Some are quick, most aren't. You'd probably be looking at at least six months plus before you get to point of transfer and then there is no guarantee of success, which can take you back to square one if no frozen embryos are available.

If you decide on Straight surrogacy, where you use our own egg, then it's all down to nature.

When I got pregnant, I don't think I felt anything, other than utter relief that I didn't have to impart any more negative news to my IPs. Telling them the great news was amazing, and in all three cases for me there were tears all round at finally something going right.

I didn't feel anything for the babies, other than an enormous sense of responsibility. The parents are so involved from day 1, and you have heard their joy every day from the first pregnancy test, to the first scans, to the excitement of choosing a nursery etc that giving them their baby is just a massive feeling of pride. I suppose I felt towards the babies a little like I feel about my sisters children. I love them, but not in the intense way their parents do if that makes sense.

Saying goodbye was hard. It felt like an ending. I wasn't sad seeing eh baby go, I was sad seeing my new friends take their baby home and not knowing what he future held. It felt like an ending. Would we keep in touch? Was that it? Do they realise my hormones are all over the place and I just want to cry but don't know why? That sort of feeling.

All my couples kept in very close contact in the first few weeks and I was able to see the little people whenever I wanted. Surprisingly I didn't really want to. Hearing they were okay was enough for me, and knowing I could see them if I wanted to was enough.

Hope all this makes sense, my children are driving me mad chatting in my ear!

AitchDee · 31/10/2012 13:55

Mrsj, why would she change her mind?

It's not her baby! Even if she wanted another baby, this baby wouldn't be hers. It wasn't made for her, wanted by her etc.

OddBoots · 31/10/2012 14:09

I had my first surrogacy through COTS and it all went well and I still got on great with the family but having experienced the match process I changed to Surrogacy UK as their way of doing things suited me better. The. COTS way is the right way for some people but with Surrogacy UK things are more social. After having an information/interview session everyone meets up and people naturally make friends with people they get on with and from that relationship people move on to working together. The agreement session stuff all works the same way.

There are pros and cons to both systems, it depends on the personalities.

TheCunnyFuntOfEastwick · 31/10/2012 14:11

Thank you Aitch, you have been really helpful, thank you so much.
If you don't mind me asking, did you do it host or straight, or both? How do they actually transfer embryos? This is something I've always wondered.
I think I'm going to ask MNHQ to move this thread to the relevant topic so it doesn't go poof when its time is up.

Mrsj please, correct me if I'm wrong but I'm getting the feeling you are trying to put me off.

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MrsjREwing · 31/10/2012 14:12

People are allowed to and do change their minds about everything, that's life.

MrsjREwing · 31/10/2012 14:16

No I am playing Devils advocate, you sound like a lovely person, lovely people often view the world in a certain way and think others have with similar values and as someone older who has learned the hard way there are a lot of people out there who take advantage of good people.

TheCunnyFuntOfEastwick · 31/10/2012 16:09

Mrsj I may be young but I certainly know that not everyone is as nice as me Wink for example, my friend has 1 child by a rapist, and another who she was together with for around a year and a half. She became pregnant and they were very happy about it until he changed his mind and told her to have an abortion at 16 weeks, which she did :( then she became pregnant again and this time they kept it, but split up soon after she was born. The child is 3 in february and a few months ago her 'father' decided he didn't want anything to do with his daughter anymore, he was too busy with his girlfriend and their new baby. Heartbreaking and terrible, but unfortunately true.

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OliviaMumsnet · 31/10/2012 18:35

Hello there
Do let us know a good topic (general health? infertility? conception??) you think we can move this to - looks like useful stuff and don't want it to selfdestruct thanks to chat rules
Thanks
MNHQ