Fireworks, bonfires and long winters' eves will herald the Rat Smacketeers' BFPs this month and we are Brooking No Argument!

[Shrieklette]

Welcome to our new humble abode for the next six weeks or so, Brookers!

Here's hoping this fred will be as lucky as sparks' and scarlett's [hgrin]

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geek how could you

Sorry miss boo

Hey how is everyone tonight? I've been lickin my wounds last couple of days - useless NHS they are never in a hurry and when they finally do get in touch give you rubbish news. Argh just feeling sorry for myself. Hope everyone else has had a good day.

Ooh hello Griff so pleased our silliness has not scared you off. It is ok to take time off and lick your wounds, hope you are feeling await better. Do you mind me asking what results/news you are waiting for?

And Geek it's Christmas/yule I will let you off

Just a definite diagnosis - had been told probably unexplained that was confirmed today along with there is nothing else they can do for us and to keep trying oh and try reflexology. They won't put us on IVF list till next Oct then it's a 2 year wait from there. Just felt gutted after the conversation. Feel a bit lost.

Oh Griff that is awful, I am so sorry. Not surprised you feel down, would they not even offer you any drugs (clomid?) Are you in a position to have private tests?

Ooh, thought of more personal and intrusive questions do you temp/chart use opk's do you track ovulation?

griff !!! So pleased to see we haven't scared you off with our race to finish the fred

Sorry the last couple of days have been rough for you, hopefully it's a downhill slope now to your ov and the dreaded/loved 2ww. The NHS can feel soooo slooooow and their cruddy secretaries don't always help matters but I can't see it being a two year wait once you are on the IVF list. I am doing NHS IVF and while the wait to see the NHS consultant was forever, as soon as we were referred to the IVF clinic everything cranked up the speed. It's only my crappy body letting the side down now

Can you get reflexology on the NHS? If they've suggested it, surely they can pay for it?

So sorry it is still unexplained for you. There is so much involved in fertility that science doesn't understand but we are always here for you, and are brooking for your ironic BFP x

Thanks ladies so nice to have some friends to talk to and some support. Yeh uses Opks and track ovulation. It was fine and kind of exciting in the beginning Bu 27 months now and sex on demand is starting to affect my marriage. Bfeel totally stressed and work isn't helping I can barely concentrate.