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TTC Super Ovulation part 3

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Arianrhod · 08/10/2012 08:30

Hey ladies -

There are a few of us who are ttc after mc's, however there will be ladies out there who are also ttc for the first time or second or third without success. If anyone is on, considering or had success on a super ovulation programme then do join us. How long did it take ? Did you try IUI with it.. ? Did you have PCOS?

Kicking this off and hoping some of you will join....

part 1 here:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1385998-TTC-Super-Ovulation

Part 2 here:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1475108-TTC-Super-Ovulation-part-2?pg=1

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suemays · 22/04/2013 21:44

Ari amazing news and lets all hope Penny is right!

Choccy I am another one who does not get on with the pred as had regular cycles before I went on it. Interestingly I spoke to Mr S over a year ago when my cycles went crazy and he told me he was thinking of stopping the pred in some women and just using hydroxy as it can affect their cycles. The only way I could guarantee I knew when ovulation occurred was to go on the superovulation plan and use preds for only 10 days a cycle. I then had two chemicals and was told to stop trying for 3 cycles. The first cycle we ttc on I conceived with Scarlet so that was the 1st month back on the pred. Since the termination, I started preds again in Jan and my cycles have ranged from 21 to 39 days and no smiley face or peaks on any opks. I am 100% sure it is the preds so stopped them in march. Strangely enough, this month I had a scan at the ivf clinic around day 12 and was told ovulation was imminent which is back to my normal cycle - co-incidence that I was not taking the steroids??? I think not.

Maybe I am menopausal and that this is the reason my cycles are weird but I don't see how it can change so quickly.

Detox went well but I got an awful rash on my face on the last day. Feel really energised since though!!

Off to pick up the down reg drugs tomorrow so feel like I am getting somewhere.

DH is now telling me he doesn't want to combine Mrs S's NKC plan with IVF as is worried that all the drugs will damage me!!! I want as many drugs as I can get as want to throw everything at this.

Waves to everyone!!

Mel3062 · 23/04/2013 06:14

Well ladies out of respect for brown I've kept abit quiet but over a week and a half ago I discovered I'm pregnant ( looks like humira is the wonder drug). I'm 5 weeks 2 days today and yesterday was the gestation when I started bleeding before last mc so hoping alls well now I've been on treatment a year. I'm petrified the hcg injections, progesterone and heperin are all just delaying things so need some pma!! I had intralipids last mon as wasn't taking pred and go again in 2 weeks for more and a scan. I'm having a scan at rmc on thurs which have been great and started me on hcg immediately. I'm so scared xx

Breezyweezy · 23/04/2013 13:13

Popping in quickly to say Mel that's fantastic news and keeping everything crossed for you. You have all bases covered with the meds so you are doing everything that you possibly can. Was this a SO cycle you were doing?

Sue glad you are feeling energised after the detox although pants about the face rach. Perhaps it was all the bad stuff coming out?! How exciting that you pick up downreg drugs tomorrow.

I want to get cracking too, only a week till our results appointment, so not long to go now till we find out what exactly we are dealing with and how treatment could go.

Enjoy the sun everyone!

Arianrhod · 23/04/2013 15:55

mel That's excellent news, so good to hear!! Fingers crossed this one works for you, let us know how you get on with your scan.

sue I've heard that from other people who did a detox, that they got some odd skin breakouts as the toxins were flushed out of their bodies but that they felt great afterwards. Gotta be good, getting cr@p out of your body, right?

I sympathise with both your angle on the multiple drugs but also with your DH's concern about taking too much. I echo your feeling about wanting to throw as much as possible at it - but also do beware you can over-suppress your immune system - apparently you do need a certain amount of inflammation for implantation. I'm kind of in the same camp a bit, as I'm wondering whether to carry on taking hydroxy or not. Penny has suggested I take it for now then check with Mr S once I start on the neupogen etc whether it's ok to stop it - but I wonder whether Mr S will know, given that he doesn't do anything with neupogen and LIT himself? I don't mean that to sound derogatory in any way at all of Mr S's expertise, I have a lot of respect for him and indeed was planning to just stick fully to his regime until I found I would be taking neupogen as well; now I won't take the high level pred but content myself with the 10mg dose, along with intralipids. I still haven't had time to check out his changed protocol - does he change the Vit D recommendation as well then, I think I saw breezy mentioning that? Not that I've ever followed Mr S's recommendation on that as doing thyroid-related research I now take 5000iu per day (125mcg). Apparently something like 90%+ people in this country are vitamin D deficient, and it can have a bearing on miscarriages too, so I understand.

pebbles No, I wasn't booked in for the hysto before I went, Penny had hoped that we wouldn't need one. When she did the aquascan and found that I did need one it was booked with her surgeon in the hospital for the next morning. I was very impressed with the short notice! The aquascan (also more correctly known as sonohysterography) is where they gently fill your uterine cavity with saline solution and have a look with ultrasound (although they do a 'normal' ultrasound scan first as well). From their website, it says:

Sonohysterography, or saline contrast hysterography, is a diagnostic test involving the use of saline as a contrast agent inside the uterine cavity. This contrast is visualized by vaginal ultrasound. The contour of the endometrial cavity can be assessed using this technique. Many uterine abnormalities can be identified by this method. There is usually no discomfort with this procedure.

Hope that makes sense! The days off work bit is of concern to me too, but I figured if I have to cancel a week off we have already booked in August to do all of this (we haven't actually booked to go anywhere yet) then I will do so. Or something.

brown Hope you're doing ok, and starting to recover as well as possible.

duggs where are you in your IVF doings??

/waves to everyone

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Mel3062 · 23/04/2013 16:30

Thanks ladies. No was just about to begin this months so cycle again I had just recieved and paid £155 for gonal f and ovitrelle which are now in my fridge!! Looks like its humira magic x

suemays · 23/04/2013 17:42

Congrats Mel, lets hope this is the one for you!

I had a spanner in the works today as was supposed to start the down reg drugs on Saturday after picking them up today but it looks like my period started today on day 17?????? Bloody typical that for once I would have been happy with a longer cycle so that I could start on the drugs on day 21. Just my luck. This will now set me back 2 weeks which I know doesn't sound a lot in the grand scheme of things but I was hoping to start the stimms in a week or 2. I don't understand it as the consultant said he saw a ripe follicle 5 days ago which was ready to ovlate so how can I have my AF??
It's too early for implantation bleeding plus too heavy although it is bright red. Really worried it's the start of the menopause for me as I have never had this before.

I am being scanned on Thurs to see what is happening as the consultant was as much surprised as me!

suemays · 23/04/2013 17:44

BTW Breezy I was given an estimated 17% chance of success by the Lister today so it's more than I thought it would be.

Ari I have decided to keep on with the hydroxy, steroids and intrallipids etc as the Lister said it was fine to go with it all. I was all set to go and feeling positive grrrrrrrr!

suemays · 23/04/2013 17:46

Mel did you come off the steroids this month to get your BFP? I still think that plays havoc with my cycles but I last took them in March.

duggs1976 · 23/04/2013 17:51

Hey sue I think that is too drastic to be anything like start of menopause. That takes months and months and months and you were only pregnant a few months back. Bless you sue. You so deserve this to work.
Exciting about breezy and ari and mel great news.
In kind of in limbo as I have been going thru NHS IVF process and if I'd known it would be this long and drawn out I'd have given up. We spent a lot last year on our private round so I really should stick it out. It was them who discovered the thyroid issue. Anyway looks like it may be August for meHmm
In the mean time dr s sent me gonal f perscription which I'm planning on taking next cycle when the thyroid drugs kick in. Think I will try that for June and July as well - that will be 4 cycles before IVF starts. Mel if things work out I will be a potential buyer of your ovitrelle and gonal f. Is this a gonal f BFP by the way? Pebbles where r u up to chick?

Mel3062 · 23/04/2013 18:51

Thanks all so scared. Sue I've been off the steroids since christmas as had to have 2 lots of humira so couldn't take them at same time. Funny isn't it??!!! On them now as soon as I found out so hoping the humira and intralipid has done enough x thanks duggs as they only have a year life so that would be great. No not gonal f as wasn't on superovulation due to the humira but should of began again this cycle. It's weird that as soon as I'm off the pred this happens but could just be the humira! Good luck ladies we need some worthwhile news on this board now xx

Mel3062 · 23/04/2013 18:58

Thanks all so scared. Sue I've been off the steroids since christmas as had to have 2 lots of humira so couldn't take them at same time. Funny isn't it??!!! On them now as soon as I found out so hoping the humira and intralipid has done enough x thanks duggs as they only have a year life so that would be great. No not gonal f as wasn't on superovulation due to the humira but should of began again this cycle. It's weird that as soon as I'm off the pred this happens but could just be the humira! Good luck ladies we need some worthwhile news on this board now xx

Pebbles73 · 23/04/2013 22:16

Hope you are feeling a bit better today Choccy this whole hung gets very frustrating!

Mel what amazing news and just from the humira, whispered congrats and will keep all crossed for you!! Grin. I can't remember, where you taking the humira because you have had trouble getting pg? Probably a silly question but hope you don't mind me asking.

How very frustrating for you Sue, maybe it could just be a random bleed? I have had do much spotting (well a bit heavier than that) over the last month so know how you feel. Hope you get some answers from your scan.

I hear you re the Nhs Duggs, it is very slow and frustrating!!

As for me I am due to have my second humira shot on Saturday and going to the doctors next week to get a form to get my thyroid checked. Still haven't made a definite decision re where to have our ivf...

Mel3062 · 24/04/2013 05:33

She out bodies always trick is when we don't need them too!!
Pebbles of course i don't mind you asking! I had humira because it was taking me a year to concieve and it came back that I had very high tnf alpha and then one lot didnt bring it down enough so needed Another lot. Louise said that's what they use it for and had alot of success with it but it does help the nk cells too. You can't have steroids at same time as it suppresses system too much. Hope it works for you too!!
Hope today goes quickly!! X

Mel3062 · 25/04/2013 01:49

Pma and hand holding needed today for my scan please. It would be amazing for me to look at the screen and have it as it should be I'm so scared x

Pebbles73 · 25/04/2013 07:22

Good luck Mel, will be thinking of you today and checking to see how you get on. There is no reason you shouldn't see things as they should be. X

Breezyweezy · 25/04/2013 08:58

Good luck for today Mel will be thinking of you.

Arianrhod · 25/04/2013 09:29

mel Huge amounts of luck and PMA for your scan today, fingers crossed all will be well!

Can anyone say how receptive Mr S is to us doing IVF at a different clinic? I want to check with him about continuing to take hydroxy with the protocol that Serum have me on, but I just wondered how he will be with me asking?

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Mel3062 · 25/04/2013 11:19

Don't you love internal scans! Saw a little sac and possible fetal pole but v early so rescan next week to hopefully see growth and heartbeat. Fingers crossed. Thanks ladies xx

Arianrhod · 25/04/2013 11:21

Well good that you saw that much mel, fingers crossed for the next scan!

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Pebbles73 · 25/04/2013 14:00

So far so good . Smile

Mel3062 · 25/04/2013 16:07

Thanks ladies xx

suemays · 25/04/2013 19:33

At least its in the right place as that's hurdle number one to get over!

ChoccyPud · 26/04/2013 08:18

Yay Mel. It's baby steps, right?! (Pun intended) :)

Arianrhod · 26/04/2013 09:57

Ladies, I just posted this on the pred thread but in case any of you don't read over there, thought I'd replicate it here since I feel it's probably quite important.

If anyone's interested, there's quite a lot of focus on links between low levels of vitamin D and miscarriage. This is a great site to look at, if you're interested: sites.google.com/site/miscarriageresearch/vitamins-and-miscarriage/vitamin-d .

I think the first entry is a bit misleading, if you go on to read the rest of the entries they all seem to contradict that first-mentioned research paper. But I guess that's often the way with research!

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Mel3062 · 26/04/2013 18:37

Ha ha thanks choccy
Very interesting reading about vit d thanks x happy weekend