This thread is the one the Rat Smacketeers all become PSEPP and we are Brooking No Argument this is the case. Fact.

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Ladies this thread is the one, I can feel it in my water [although maybe that's the drugs ], here you go

Oh Cups I am sorry she got you.

huge hugs to you cups not quite sure how AF escaped my hogtie, she must have an impersonator loitering with me. I will nab her better next time. Be kind to yourself xx

Aw Cupcake so sorry AF put in an appearance, especially when everything was looking so promising. Look after yourself and get snuggled down with your hot water bottle.

I managed to speak to nurse today, she was from the alternative clinic we would go to if we do IVF again. Anyway she was lovely much nicer than those where we are at the moment, but then I am a walking pound sign to her and talked me through my AMH result in conjunction with low follicle count. She said that result is probably correct and we have as much chance getting preggers naturally than with my own eggs through IVF. She did say at their clinic they have never had successful outcome for a lady with AMH under 5, some have got preggers but mc. Very bleak news I am afraid. I know from other forums that ladies with low AMH scores do go on the get preggers but these are obviously the miracle cases.

So that has left us with a huge amount to discuss. We have applied for all our notes, test results & treatment plans from our current clinic, but this take about 8 weeks and cost £50 so it is very unlikely we will be doing anything else this year. The alternative clinic will see us for a consultation once we have all our notes. But I think our options are really egg donation or adoption. We have to decide how much we want our baby against a baby. A big part of having a baby for me is the mini me factor, I do appreciate it could be nothing like me when it comes along but I would be looking for traits even if not looks.

So that is all for now, sorry for the very me me me post.

God Sweetie that sounds like an awful lot to process. I'm really sorry it's not better news. I understand that it's something you and DH will have to think long and hard about before you make a decision on what to do next.
I've been looking into egg donation a lot lately (admittedly from the other side), it's such a complex subject. I understand what you are saying about passing your genes on and the baby having your traits.

I will be thinking of you and brooking for a miracle. And don't you dare apologise for a me, me, me post (it wasnt btw!)

Lots of (((hugs)))

Oh sweetie I'm so sorry it was bad news!! Dont you dare apologies for a meme post!!! Brooking for a miracle baby!!!

cups i'm so sorry. It's extra hard some months, isn't it?

sweetie i'm glad you got to talk to somebody, but sorry for the news you were given. There'a a lot for you to take in and think about, so i wouldn't try and rush into a decision yet, but think about what's right for you. If you do decide to use donor eggs, i guess there's not so much hurry anyway? Would it be helpful to talk to people who have made that decision, either way? I know what you mean about the mini-me, but it would be mini-dh, and you would have carried it, and that may be the stronger bond. With adoption, i understand there are not so many babies. But what an amazing thing to do if you do it. I think either way would be brilliant, and you will have your baby.

solars thanks. I don't see much cm anyway, so will def use a lube, but maybe that doesn't matter as I will be having the clomid alongside IUI. I will be scanned at least twice - day 12 and then just before the IUI. They'd cancel if there were too many follies, more than three. One of the doctors said 'you'd be ok with twins, right?" OK, then we can have up to 6. Er. I would be ok with twins but there are many risks to this and I don't think you can plan to try and get twins. It's risky. Anyway we're not going with him. The risk of a multiple pregnancy if you get pregnant is 10%, so not too high.

boo how long till 12 week scan?

oh, and i have hugely sore boobs already, at maybe 2dpo. I think this is because of my huge and beautiful follicle, which is THE ONE.

Sweetie I am so sorry to hear your news, that is a lot of information to process, I am sure you and Mr s will make the best choices for you.

Keep it all sounds very promising for you, talking of twins too wow, alto a lot of information to take in. My scan is Monday.

Solars brooking for you and sticky emby. When is test day?

Cheery wave to everyone else.

Keep Sounds like you're diffed, what with the hugely sore boobs!!!

Boo Monday you say? how very exciting!!!

Cupcake I think I forgot to say how terribly rude that wicked witch is!!!shocking behaviour!!! I hope you're ok though

Nothing new to report here, mental went in to over drive, after I had some cramps last night and a tiny bit of spotting, then this morning I had what felt like stitch running up the side of my belly while I was waiting for the bus, however this went away when I decided to walk the rest of the way, and surely bad things cant be relieved by walking?!! Did another test again this morning too, an IC and got a very very clear line, although still not as dark as the control line!! I think its finally dawning on me!!!

Crumpets are the king of breakfast foods!!!!

Monday, boo - am brooking for you! How exciting you will get to see your baby...

sparks that sounds scary, but from what i hear is normal, both spotting and cramps. Wow, those ICs do take their sweet time to show clearly, then!

Oh Sweetie I'm so sorry to hear they think the result is correct. I totally understand your uncertainty about the next steps. I hope you manage to take some time to make a decision that suits you both and that you get your baby soon. I have always had a strong feeling that you were destined to be a mum - I will keep brooking for you and all the rest of the brookers.

Sparks try not to mental (I know it's hard) - a bit of spotting and weird pains/twinges are all normal, but I know it's hard to relax!

Aw brookers thanks for your support I am feeling ok about things. I will go see GP to see if they can find out more but as we know they really aren't ttc experts. I have applied for the lister clinic free draw so brook for me that we get drawn as one of the 24 couples they offer a free ivf cycle to. They have the best reputation for ladies with low amh or poor responders. Anyways have booked a holiday for my birthday in December now we know nothing else will be happening treatment wise.

Sparks how you feeling now? Cramps settling down any? Just look after yourself.

Can not remember what everyone else said, will check back when on laptop

brooking totally for sweets

I feel less crampy now, but then to be honest I dont really feel anything now, except tired and headachy. I think I may need to adopt a wait and see attitude.

Sweetie - I was considering the Lister early this year - they are supposed to be v good. Brooking like mad that you are the winners of the draw.

Sparks - stay positive. Symptoms/no symptoms - either is normal... xxx

Waves to all. How is Solars doing? Brooking and keeping an eye on your date for testing.

xx

Sparks tired and headache ARE symptoms :) so happy for you.

Sweetie you are an amazing brooker!! I am brooking no argument you will be selected!

Brooking for everyone, especially those lurking and reading, you know who you are

Oh Sweetie I agree with everything Scarlett has said, you have eggs there! I have faith it will happen. Brooking like mad that you get drawn for the free go at Lister, when do you find out?

Boo a week tomorrow!! And how exciting that your scan has already come around, good luck for Monday!

Tickety tock I'm ok, not quite going mad yet, but still a week left yet for it to get to me

You'll be fine Sparkes just hang on in there

Keep you probably won't need the pre-seed if the clomid is used with iui then. Do you have dates for starting your first cycle?

Waves to everyone else x

sweetie the power of brooking will get you to the Lister!!

solars might you do a sneaky early test, do you think? glad you're not mad yet - any nice symptoms to report, though i know that could just be the progesterone...

We'll be starting our first IUI cycle most likely first week of december, depending on my periods. so that gives me two more chances to get upduffed. The die is cast for this one, am in 2ww, and next month we are just going to hope for the best timing-wise as i'll be visiting dh in india. BROOKING

boo are you nervous or just excited about monday. Didn't you already have a scan, so that should ease the nerves a bit. Will you tell the kids afterwards?

I had a bit of an email spat with my sis last night - she'd emailed about the 'baby thing' and i'd said still no. Her response was 'that must be boring and annoying for you, but it'll happen'. BORING and ANNOYING. Says she of the pregnant on second cycle. I was mad and sent back a snotty email saying those aren't the words i'd use to describe infertility. She apologised, said she didn't mean it in a bad way, but it just rubbed in how people can't understand.

Love to all, present, lurking, and preggers.

Boring and annoying?!! Yes because thats what we all think, "hmm this waiting for a baby thing is so boring" never mind the stress, the upset, the anguish!!!! Keep I think your sister might actually need a smack!!!

Solars we draw closer to testing day every day, how do you feel?

Anyone else in 2ww?

thanks sparks glad you agree that is quite an enraging thing to say, i wondered if i was being oversensitive. Though DH also agreed.

am in the 2ww - only about 3dpo though, and have a long LP, so two weeks till bfp for me! think beedle and i were cycle buddies this month, though she has a shorter cycle than me so could be due sooner.

Gosh Keep that would have sent me mad too! You're flying out to India soon, lucky you, I really want to be jet setting off to somewhere warm at the moment! No real symptoms to report, errrrmmm apart from expels of air from the rear entrance, much to DH's amusement a few night sweats and I have been exhausted in the middle of the day but I think they're all to do with the progesterone! I think I'll be too scared to test early but I see how I feel next week!

Sparkes I feel ok so far, although I can start to feel a little negativity creeping in but I'm trying to keep it in check! I was planning a nice day out shopping here but weather is pretty yucky so may drive out to an indoor shopping mall!

I forgot to say yesterday sorry about AF Cups hope you're feeling ok now lovely x

How is everyone else doing? Seems awfully quiet again here!

solars just to make you jealous we're headed to the beach in a couple of hours after work... It's always hot here! too hot Will be going to India in a month or so, my mum's coming to visit first - can't wait.

Am sure there is no way you can tell either way solars. Hang in there!

We are down on ttc-ers now, yes. Wish we could all graduate together!

Fwiw keep 'boring and annoying' probably ticked the box at about 4 mths into ttc. Even by 6 mths boring and annoying was a distant memory. Ttc ds2 was I honestly think one of the most stressful times of my life, if not THE most stressful. It took me months to recover, if I even have yet. If you haven't struggled to get pg you can never understand quite how dark and all consuming it can be

I know there are lots of awful things that people go through in life but the fact that there are other bad things doesn't make ttc any less bad iyswim.