This thread is the one the Rat Smacketeers all become PSEPP and we are Brooking No Argument this is the case. Fact.

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Ladies this thread is the one, I can feel it in my water [although maybe that's the drugs ], here you go

I'm only cd11, so would normally be quite chirpy around now. i think it's all the clinic appointments, and realisation we won't most likely have a naturally conceived baby.

I think wednesday would be too early to see anything pregnancy-related, and there's no point in them looking at your cysts, so i would prob cancel it sparks, but maybe some of the preggos know more than me...

So pleased for you. But not pleased as it's another tick in the box for the 'relax' camp. ;)

geek poor you. Def get back to bed. What a welcome party for AF you threw!!

keep it must be so hard at the moment, so allow yourself to be down!! Remember I may be another relax success story but it took the threat of loosing my job to completely shift focus!! Otherwise I would be mega stress head!!! Your probably right about the scan and I don't really want them poking around in there!!

YYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY Sparks!!!!

I'm so glad to see my OTT HPT purchasing being put to SUCH good use! Well done girl!

What is the US for on Wed? I'd be tempted to ring them and ask what they think? Is it something that might be relevant to being diffed? I mean USs are safe in pg obviously aren't they but if it was to check tubage or whatever then I guess there's no point?

Sorry I've not read everything else so sorry if I've missed anything important

Also, you weren't that relaxed were you, sparks as you were stressed about the job thing. So unless your body can think 'stressed about babies, won't get pregnant. stressed about job, will get pregnant' it just doesn't make any sense. More likely this was just your month, and you timed it right and smacked that rat well! DH says he's not down, more excited to start moving faster towards getting our baby. He is so sensible.

biscuit it was to check to make sure a large cyst had gone, they assumed it was a follicle (?!) as I'd not long ovulated, they'd already diagnoses me with PCOS from the last scan!! I'll call them later and see what they have to say!!

keep yes of course your right, I've not really been relaxed at all, just bonked whenever I saw EWCM!! mrkeep is right, every day you get one step closer!!!

Dropping in to say I'm doing the massivist brooking no argument ever for Solars and her little emby - I hope you are resting and that the 26th comes flying round. It's been a hullvua journey for you Solars so it's your time. BROOK, brook, brook.

And fabulous news to Sparks - congrutulations, lady, how wonderful - how did you reckon you cracked the egg, Sparks

Morning ladies. Sparks how are you and Mr s feeling? Do you believe it yet? I love the cbd, just because it says deffo preggo in actual words

Solars hoping you are managing to relax, still doing a sticky emby dance and brooking for you.

Keep it will be your turn soon, I brook no argument!!!

good morning Shriek bacon butty or just a coffee? Also have you thought of setting your cat on af? It did a pretty thorough job on the mouse

Cheery wave to everyone else.

Tock I did absolutely nothing (except bonking of course) we decided to have a bit of time off, so I didnt use my CBFM, nor any OPKs, nor charting. I noticed some EWCM just over 2 weeks ago, and thought we may as well dtd. Wasnt really even thinking about it, drank wine, ate blue cheese etc etc right up until last weekend. Theres a fair bit going on at home, so I wouldnt say I was relaxed but I definately wasnt focused on TTC.

Boo It all seems a bit alien to be honest, like its not real. Even seeing it written down was weird. Then I had to go to the docs, to find out if I can still take my piriton while diffed (I can) so obviously had to tell her that we'd had a BFP and she was so super nice and my referral has been sent off. I actually cried when I saw her writing 'pregnant and pleased' and we all had a bit of a joke about conceiving after being referred!!

Now Im wondering whether the symptoms Im feeling could have possibly started already, or if its all in my head.

mrsparks has got his serious head on, and has told me when we get home tonight we need to sit down and work out finances [boring emoticon]

Ooh Sparks symptoms you say? You tell us what you have and we will tell you if you are mental

theres some cramping, a bit like AF is on its way, which worries the hell out of me. Im already beyond tired,but then i barely slept last night knowing that i was testing and i just feel a bit queasy, not sick just a little wobbly!!

so? am i off my rocker?

Not in the slightest :) I had some cramping and I asked my mw about it, (with ds2 not this one) and she said it was most likely to be either bean making itself comfortable or the ligaments and muscle around your womble starting to loosen and stretch ready for the next 9 months, so don't worry as long as they don't get too bad, It happened to me again this time but I was ready for it. (You may also want to be ready for a stabbing pain when you stand/twist)

Wobbly also fine, not everyone gets the full on cuddle the toilet sickness, some lucky ones just feel a bit tipsy iykwim. And don't get me started on tired, I'm like a toddler, needing a nap then an early night too :(

All in all you sound completely mental and panicky about everything like a normal preggo

Hope this works, doing it off my phone, Sparks http://www.babycentre.co.uk/pregnancy/antenatalhealth/physicalhealth/tummycramps/ just so you know I'm not mental

:( hang on, trying again did this one work

thanks Boo They seem to have eased up a bit after I had some lunch!! am totes going to mental about it for the next 9 months though!!!

No you won't, give it a few weeks and I promise you will find something new to mental about

Well the doc sent me home with some leaflets to read, so all I can do now is wait!!

Ladies please can I ask you a question as I am a bit very worried.

I decided to pay for a private AMH test after our failed IVF treatment so that I would have all the info to allow us to make an informed decision for our next steps. We have a failed cycle review they do like to rub it in with the consultant at the end of October so i wanted all the facts to take along.

Anyway the results came back today, the result was 0.0 pmol/l. Do you think a mistake has been made? I am not sure if to ring to check if this is possible. I didn't expect the result to be anything other than low but to be 0.0 is beyond shocking.

The letter says under 6.0 pmol/l is low ovarian reserve requiring maximum stimulation.
6.1-24.0 pmol/l shows reduced ovarian reserve for safe responders.
24.1-70.0 pmol/l optimum ovarian reserve for reduced stimulation protocol.

70 pmol/l associated with PCOS.

Oh Sweetie I am sorry I don't know anything that could help, but I didn't want to leave you with out {{{{{hugs}}}}} and some hand holding.

Oh sweetie I have no idea but don't give up just yet, was it expensive? Could you get retested?

Oh sweetie love, lots of hugs and hand holding. Is it possible that your IVF cycle could have affected the results? I think AMH is produced by follicles themselves so maybe the drugs and surgical messing-about has given your ovaries a bit of a shock to the system. Brooking that that is the case for you. Do you still track temps? As long as you know you are ovulating surely that is all that matters, because AMH is not a measure of quality, just quantity. (((hugs)))

I am a brooker so I am not believing it. I still have very regular periods and everything else so I am going to ring them tomorrow to see if it is possible a mistake has been made, or the IVF treatment may have effected the results.

Thanks for your support.

Sorry I don't have much time to update but just read your post Sweetie, I don't know a great deal about amh but i do know you can still get pregnant even with low reserves, so please, please don't think the worst. In the first instance I would double check with the clinic about the number and then await what the clinic has to say about it all. When exactly is your appointment?

X-post Sweetie yay! you go girl! I'm brooking for you lovely x

Sweetie that result can't be right - you know you ovulate and have regular periods, so surely the concentration has either been affected by the IVF cycle (like Shriek said), or it's a misprint or something. Don't throw in that towel yet, brooker!

oh sweetie, i have no idea, but do know that AMH is not always taken seriously - they don't test for it in lots of places. Can you go and talk to your GP? Though they may not know. I think maybe phoning the clinic is best first off, to double check the result. Then i suppose wait until your consultant appointment and try not to freak out/wait for your ironic BFP.

We now have a plan. All three hospitals suggested IUI for 3-6 rounds pre-IVF, due to my age (30). So this is it - December IUI, January IUI, February IUI/break, March IUI, April IVF, May break, June IVF/FET. We will be doing IUI with clomid to stimulate more than one egg, but the doctor will cancel the cycle if there are more than three eggs. They say that spinning the sperm may help to get rid of many of the malformed ones (which seem to be our problem). So fingers crossed!!

It's confusing because the consultant in the UK suggested that 3-4% morphology is ok, and classed us as unexplained. Everyone here says it's pretty bad. I wonder if it's a combination of NHS not wanting us to be explained, and therefore have IVF sooner, and people here wanting us to get treatment. Two of the consultants here suggested we'd need ICSI rather than normal IVF, but i guess we'll cross that bridge if/when we come to it.

Just brooking now that one of those cycles will lead to my baby.

solars thinking of you