This thread is the one the Rat Smacketeers all become PSEPP and we are Brooking No Argument this is the case. Fact.

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Ladies this thread is the one, I can feel it in my water [although maybe that's the drugs ], here you go

On reflection this weekend I've broken every 2ww rule!! I forget to take my folic acid tablets yesterday, drank wine, cooked with wine, had caffeine, ate blue cheese AND had runny eggs

Sounds like a BFP is on the way then Sparks

How are you all doing over here? I'm afraid I've rather lost track of things what with moving and the like. I hope you're all well and all that. Sorry not to be seeing more of you on the other thread, but still brooking from afar.

DC seems all well and good. I have a couple of nice new friends, one of whom is a MNer. Natch. And a scary obstetrician. But the least said about her the better. She is clearly not a MNer.

Night night all.

hi whim! I'm awake, as it's 9.30am here in rainy bangkok! Glad things are good with you. I wouldn't know how to admit to anyone i'm on MN... Bleurgh to cinammon toothpaste. I bought some here the other day which turned out to be salt flavoured. SALT!! I mean come on, WTAF? It's so gross, but that's what you get for having a funny script...

solars am brooking for your scan today, and hoping egg collection will be very soon afterwards.

well done on the spin, boo. Now, you rest up the next few months.

beedle am hoping no news from you as you're so busy celebrating your holiday bfp. Are you home now?

sparks when is the BFP due then? or are you so relaxed you don't even know? when's your appointment, i can't remember? i just ran out of pg tablets today, so have to wait for my mum to bring some out in 3 weeks. But as i said to mrk, i've been taking them for over a year for no reason. Maybe not taking them is the way forward. i do have some folic acid though.

We have IVF appointments on sat, sun and monday. am pretty nervous but also excited. Hope to start in Jan.

sorry for being AWOL, I didn't have any internet access without MrB peering over my shoulder, and seeing as he knows nothing about mumsnet or you lot I couldn't post. And anyway I had nothing exciting to say, AF turned up a day late before I could test grrr. Its probably a good thing though, I'd hate to prove the theory that going on holiday and "relaxing" makes you pregnant :o But we're home now and I have to go to work

solars was it another scan today? Good luck

whims nice to see you dropping in

waves to keep

I will try to be around more now that we're back to our normal routine

oh beedle both for damned AF and for return to work. How was the holiday - where were you? When's mrb's next date with the pot?...

Solars brooking for your scan today, good luck, really hope those follies have done their job!!

Hiya everyone else, hope you all ok. Not seen much of some of you lately, Maybe,Geek and Imps and others sorry if I forget to name check, still brooking for you all.

Morning brookers. My goodness,Mae are very international today aren't we

Lovely to see you Whims. Cinnamon toothpaste? Why oh why. I find baking soda toothpaste hard enough to get my head around. Glad you're settling in well in DC. I really do want to hear more about your obstetrician though...

Keep how exciting about your appointments. Totally understandable to feel nervous though. I just can't believe how much quicker things can move over there!

halloweenthemedBoo well done on your spin lovely. How you feeling this morning?

Beedle sorry AF found you. Did you have a lovely break though?

Hiya Maybe I'm ok, tired and my legs ache a bit lot but fine. I have been banned from any more exercise for the rest of the week by my instructor. How are you and Mr M? Have you had the cf results yet?

What a sensible instructor you have. Though if you're anything like me, that would be a red flag to a bull!

We get the results at the follow up appointment, but that's only 2.5 weeks away, so not so bad n

oh beedle Im so sorry!! be extra super kind to yourself!!

Keep how exciting to be potench starting in January, baby by the end of 2013 me thinks!!!

Havent really got a clue where I am in my cycle, I think maybe 10DPO, but could be more or could be less, sooooo with an LH phase of approximately 12 days I could test any day now really, but zero symptoms (well none that I cant put down to work related stress).

sorry ladies its all I've got!!

Hello Brookers!

I'm back, I took a few months off to try to relax & stop thinking about ttc so much (it totally hasn't worked )

I'm not sure if I'm up to date with everything that has happened but here goes

Sweetie I've just been reading about your IVF journey. Im so sorry this cycle didn't work out. How are you doing with the puppy training? She looks so adorable.

Solars have got absolutely everything crossed for you my dear

Scarlett also crossing everything for a natural BFP for you

Geek hoping your referral gets sorted ASAP

Maybe it finally sounds like you and MrMaybe have at last found a helpful doctor. It so good that you now know what was affecting the sperm count.

Sparks I've missed your FB updates, they always made me laugh. Hope your doing ok.

Beedle sorry about AF, sounds like you had a good holiday. Boo to being back at work.

Boo big congrats on the BFP, amazing news

I can't believe that Faith has finally got a BFP, that really made me smile. If your still reading this thread, I'm so happy for your well deserved BFP

Imps how are you doing? Are you still enjoying your new job.

Sorry if I've forgotten anyone/mixed anyone up

Keep that sounds great about the funded IVF. Good luck looking around clinics. Sounds like you are having a great time in bangkok

Cup it's so good to have you back

Now, tell us what has been going on with you

Hiya cup nice to have you back not least because we're a bit thin on the ground these days lol

whim hellooooo! How many times have you been told to 'have a nice day'

sparks nice to have you back too medear.

I'm BBBOOOORRRREEEEEEDDDDDD today.

Working from home with zero motivation. Loads to do but cba to do any of it and have so far spent most of today googling.

I need to change my vocation, cos I'm utterly utterly bored of sales/account management. It's not even worth looking for another job becasue I suspect it will be a case of same shit different company iykwim, plus I feel like I haven't got enough headspace to look for/interview/start a new job etc.
Can't afford to retrain or take a salary drop.
Think I need to set up a business of my own.

In symptom news, my boobs are still a bit sore but that is fairly normal for my 2ww, I am 8dpo and just don't feel diffed. I am holding out til Weds at the earliest to test but am not holding my breath. I am sick of the bloated diffed-looking belly I have had since the treatment, despite being 2kilos lighter than before I started I can't fit into any of my bloody clothes and everyone is going to to be thinking I am pregnant when I'm not

How's everyone else?

Ok, so the desk move is complete and as suspected MNing is not really going to happen very easily.

cups lovely to see you back, how are things with you??

boo congratulations on finishing your spin, I second your instructor's orders - take the rest of the week off!!!

There are a few new names I don't recognise on the FB page (can't access from work so can't remember all the nicknames but they are the most recently added) - are these gradulates, or brookers who have yet to post on here yet?

6DPO here, trying not to mental but my temp has taken a nosedive. Not sure how much to trust it though because I was out of bed ten minutes before I had to take my temp to scream at tell off the cats and chase them downstairs.

Oooh - news - I did some baking this weekend - black forest gateau cupckaes. They were yum! so yum they didn't last five minutes - literally and less than 100 calories per cupcake, can't be bad

Geek I think a lot of the new FBers are grads who have just caught on to everything, myself included

haha I cant believe I leave FB and we get shed loads of new members!! Although I do love the fact that I can live in complete denial about things happening outside my own little life. I actually get to read the news these days, rather than just seeing someones facebook status and I dont have to pretend to care when someone says something like "Im so miserable today" or "Im in so much pain" (but not enough to stop you posting)

cup we've all missed you so much but agree with maybe we need a little more of an update please!!

Scarlett Im bored too, but I have a meeting at 3 about the worlds most depressing topic so Im just allowing myself to be a little more chilled than I would normally be.

Geek we're lucky that from a very early age we trained our cats to sleep in the kitchen. We can now just say "its bed time" and they both get up from where ever they are and run downstairs and get in their respective beds, sorry thats ever so gloaty of me your cakes sound amazing!!!! I've not seen much baking related posts lately. For the record I did an amazing lunch yesterday, portabello mushroom, blue cheese and red onion marmalade sandwiches!!

What about crafting? whats everyone making at the moment? Maybe has taught me how to knit socks, well she pointed me in the direction of a relatively simple pattern and then fielded every one of the billions questions I had to ask. Last night I turned my first ever heel

Apparently.... and dont get excited.... but hubby says I need to do a test tonight as my AF is due in a couple of days, because I've been avoiding taking antihistamines for my chronic hives just in case, but I keep having reoccuring flare ups (probs stress induced). Im pretty sure I know what the result will be, but I know how much you guys enjoy a good awaiting result sesh!!

quick post (again. I will write more soon, and not just about me!)

I just got a phone call from the hospital and they want me to come in for my HSG tomorrow afternoon, so I'm hoping that my very light end-of-period spotting stops soon. and MrB has a date with a jar tomorrow am. so its all go around here.

cups lovely to see you back

geek I'll get onto to facebook and update myself - I didn't really have time when I saw the new document (and I was a bit confused as to why FB seemed to think that everyone had just introduced themselves, when we did that months ago)

scarlett sorry you're bored, and I'm having the same problem with clothes at teh moment, but its due to far too much good food on holiday :o

Sparks a test you say??

Beedle when Sparks abandoned us on fb she took told names list with her, and now we have all these new ones to learn I had not actually learnt the old ones

Cups it is lovely to see you back :)

Geek link to take recipe please? They sound lovely (the cake, not the cats, they sound like little devils)

sitting on a bean bag, not an Adam bag, not even sure what an Adam bag is

Well things have been difficult between me and DH. Basically he is willing to do any tests and most things I ask him to (apart from cutting down his drinking!). But he doesn't like me talking about ttc and I feel he can be quite unsympathetic when I'm upset. It's made me feel so alone at times. We are working through things though so hopefully that will get better. He has been very good up until the last few months, after 2 years I think he is sick of it all too.

We have had all our tests repeated by the specialist. I've had a HSG. DH latest SA is a bit worse. His count had doubled from 23million to 55million but his normal morphology had dropped from 16% to 8%. I'm not too worried as I understand there is a degree of compensation due to the increased count. He has been advised to take l-arginine by the consultant. The consultant has discharged us as he couldn't find anything wrong, he has written to our GP advising if we are still not pg in January to refer us for IVF. He would not give us clomid as I'm ovulating & as the HSG was fine he does not think a lap & dye is needed. So we are back in the wilderness. I'm not holding my breath about the IVF as I'm sure they will come up with some reason not to fund us.

Sorry for the long post. As you can see I have completely lost my brooking power and need you all to sort me out!

Oh Cups. It's all so shit isn't it. How frustrating they can't find anything. That sounds terrible, but you know what I mean. You just wants reason. They wouldn't have a reason not to find IVF would they?

You and DH will work through things, I just know you will. We are all brooking on your behalf, so panic not

cup so sorry to hear of your problems. I think we all deal with infertility in our own way, but it's so important to think about your partner as well. I know how frustrating unexplained is, I almost wish they'd find something too. But don't worry about the morphology, our consultant said anything over 5% is OK, and esp as you have a high count. Interesting to see your Dr said don't bother with clomid, we'd been wondering abut that. I know in some places it is prescribed to women who ovulate.

sparks I Don't Believe you've trained your cats like that!!!! Good luck with poas, you can either take drugs, or won't care that you can't. :)

beedle that's not much notice for your hsg! Good luck. Mine just felt like period pain but I took some paracetamol a bit before, which they recommended. Good luck to mrb too x

Where's solars? Can't remember her scan time but its nearing bed time here...

Scarlett it's too early for symptoms!! Don't fret. You know you had a juicy egg, good sperm, lovely lining... I know what you mean about jobs, it can be depressing. Am tempted to retrain... setting up a business would be amazing!

Brooking for us all.

Beedle good luck with the HSG, mine smarted a bit. It felt quite uncomfortable but it was bearable. Im famous in my family for being a wimp so maybe you won't even feel it

Maybe the not knowing is the frustrating part. I know I should be grateful that there is nothing wrong but part of me is desperate for a diagnosis.

Keep that's reassuring about 5% being acceptable. I was keen to give clomid a go but the consultant was against it. He says he sometimes gives it when women are already ovulating but only if their progesterone is borderline (around 30) I've had a few day 21 tests done and they are all between 45-50. He said if I really wanted clomid he would give me a prescription but he would not monitor me at all & he would document that it had been given at my insistence Obviously that scared me off the idea a bit!