This thread is the one the Rat Smacketeers all become PSEPP and we are Brooking No Argument this is the case. Fact.

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Ladies this thread is the one, I can feel it in my water [although maybe that's the drugs ], here you go

Thanks for your wise words ladies.

Keep he is my PhD supervisor. That is he is meant to guide and support me. My arse. He doesn't pay me, I win a stipend from a trust that pays me. It's a central cock up with the payments. But he has been asked to give me emergency money, but he hasn't. It's too late to change supervisor, I only have until the end of January. I am seriously considering going in at weekends. Though I think he is going away soon, I just don't know when! I feel sick at the thought of seeing him again. Anyhoo.

How exciting re the clinics. I'm so pleased you have a plan formulating, always feel better when you do.

Sweetie I also thinkit would be wise to give your eggs another go. My friend at work who has been through IVF told me to see it as a three cycle thing, and that the chances of a BFP after three cycles are actually quite good. Did your clinic offer counselling?

Beedle hope you are working on a lovely tan whilst sipping on something nice.

Boo. I love the term arse badger. I really do . All ready for your spin?

You may have the word Arsebadger as i nicked it off Smegs anyway to use as your very own Maybe especially when referring to the twunty boss :)

I am ready for the spin thank you I have convinced myseff today that I need to load up on calories ready for it so I have had a large bag of cheesy puffs and a muffin (as well as my usual breakfast and lunch ) Just appealing for any last minute supporters on FB and in RL :):):)

Hello lovely ladies, I'm sorry for my absence. I have been feeling very sorry for myself and finding all things TTC-related a bit difficult to deal with. I have been lurking from afar, though, and as always brooking for you all.

scarlett I am brooking that your wafty tube has done its job, and that you are now nicely setted in to the 2ww.

solars good luck for your scan on Friday, brooking for masses of follies all filled to bursting with golden eggs for you.

keep your insurance news is the best thing I have heard in a very long while. I had no idea insurance even considered covering things like that, but it sounds like your DP's work have put a very decent package in place. Of course, you will not need to go as far as IVF because now that avenue is available to you, you will have your ironic BFP before you know it. Brooking that AF has still not shown her face, and that all spotting stays away too.

maybe I am so, so sorry that you are dealing with such a dink-boss. He sounds even worse than mine. I really hope you get some funds sorted out soon, and that you are able to avoid him for the duration of your last two experiements.

boo good luck with your sponsored spin, I can't get on to the justgiving site while I am at work and keep forgetting while I am at home but will make a conscious effort this evening. Hope the ms is strong enough to reassure you, but mild enough to be ignoreable

snow congratulations!

Well, I am in the 2ww at last!! This cycle will only be 6 weeks long rather than 8 so I am rather pleased - even more so as I think MrGeek and I managed to get in 3.5 SWIs that count this month - Record!!!!! Those of you who have commented on how far we have come since January, when I was worried we would never SWI/SFF ever again in our lives, thank you. I can't believe it myself. I am so glad that I decided to push the issue when I did, otherwise we would still be living miserable lives of abstinence. We are both so much happier in our selves, and as a couple too. It has really bruoght us back together again.

On a minor rant note, I do wish people would not insist on bringing their screaming, red-faced brat 6 month old into the office to 'show around'. We have massive open plan offices which house about four different teams so a lot of people who don't even know the mother get disturbed. And if you do decide to bring said delight into the office, would you kindly not follow me into the nearest cafe when I feck off for a moment of peace and quiet!

Geek my lovely, so sorry your having a hard time at the mo, any news on an appointment yet? and HUGE congratulations on some well timed swi, but how exactly do you dtd 3.5 times would take the .5 and be happy as Mr boo has slipped back into bad habits :(

Symptoms have settled a bit more this week not been mentalling about that, no siree bob, not me but I still have enough to stop me panicking too much :)

Ooh yes - the appointment, I clean forgot! Rang the clinic last Friday afternoon as I was getting really panicky and nervous. Lovely consultant was really sweet, but had forgotten to write to my gp He was away but promised to either fax something to my gp asking for a referral over the last weekend, or at the latest his secretary would send something out tomorrow for him. Little bit annoyed (but he is lovely so I will forgive him just this once mind) as that's three weeks wasted. Now need to leave it another two before chasing again. That is part of my reason for feeling so down in the dumps about it all at the mo to be honest. Going from 'full steam ahead in October' to 'Need an operation, see how it goes'.

boo, the 0.5 is because MrG had a really bad back so prepared himself by hand, with the intention of 'paying in his deposit' at the last minute. Unfortunately he missed

oh poor Mr G.

Oh Geek lovely, I'm so pleased you're still with us. So sorry it's all so tough at the moment. It is so frustrating when it seems all you're doing is waiting for treatment. You are so going to be on your way to a BFP by christmas though.

Boo you deffo need to cargo load

Oh, and poor MrG. I laughed so much my tummy hurt

Aw geek poor MrG but I am laughing so much my cheeks hurt

Sweetie gosh you've got such a lot to be thinking about but how lovely that you could have a frank and honest discussion about donor eggs with a friend. Yes the tummy is a little bloated, I just really hope the meds are working, doing their thing and those follies are growing!

Keep I was told by the clinic to expect egg collection anytime after the 8th! Brooking that AF is staying well away, are you planning on testing again? You too Beedle hope AF stays away and you're having a great holiday!

Geek lovely to see you back, this ttc lark can be so trying can't it! Hugs. We had a phone call from one of DH's friend tonight to let us know they are due in Feb, normally I'm fine with announcements but my DH passed me the phone to speak to them and I felt so strange congratulating them an hour after injecting myself with the stimming meds! And guess what they got pregnant the first month of trying :(

Maybe hope you're doing ok, January's not that far off now so hopefully you can side step nasty boss man between now and then!

Gosh didn't realise its got so late, right off to listen to my cd and think positive thoughts I.e. stop the self pitying after that phone call

geek sorry that things are hard, and taking so long for you. It's all so frustrating, isn't it? Especially when you had your expectations up for ICSI so soon, and now it's all been pushed back. Why do some people find it so goddamn easy? But, on the plus side, am so pleased for you and mrgeek getting closer. And i too laughed lots at him missing. i'm always surprised how far it goes .

solars wow exciting stuff! Sorry about the preg announcement. Also, did they find the need to tell you they were lucky first month? I think that's quite insensitive. I hate all this masculine bravado some people get when they say 'ha ha i must have super sperm' etc etc. Do they not think that it might be upsetting for other people? you just never know what someone's going through. But you'll be pregnant in under three weeks! BROOK BROOK

Weekend at the beach cancelled due to impending tropical storm

Well, as no AF this morning, and after a dream that was set this morning and where I got a BFP, i tested. BFN. And now a little bit of spotting. So i think AF will be here soon enough and my body is just playing silly buggers so we miss ovulation in 2 weeks. Sigh. And grrrr. beedle i will try and keep her occupied for you! I never test. but this month really had me wondering. stupid keep

Roll on IVF consultations at three clinics in the next two weeks to get the ball rolling. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH

Oh Keep sorry about the BFN and spotting. But hurrah to appointments. Busy busy busy. But at least you will have a firm plan afterwards. Boo to the storm. How inconsiderate.

Solars how are you feeling today after the phone call? It's so tough hearing news like that x

Hello to all other brookers that are lurking. We are very thin on the ground at the moment

solars so sorry you had to go through that telephone conversation, I really hope you feel better today. Announcements are bad at the best of times but some people are genuinely thoughtless.

keep great news about your appointments - I love a good plan, and it sounds like you are definitely not going to be underinformed.

maybe just curious - what is a cargo load?

My office is having a desk move this weekend, and I'm not going to be able to do much surreptitious mning during the day any more so making the most of it today and tomorrow

Keep sorry about bfn and spotting but your ivf plans are coming along nicely, 3 appointments wow! Does your insurance policy cover all 3 of them? Let us know how they all go!

We are very thin on the ground aren't we Maybe I am very happy for the friends pregnancy and they are a sweet couple and I don't want to take away any of their excitement and equally I can't blame them for being so excited about it all, just the timing of news for me wasn't good and I really hate who I am/have become with all this ttc business for feeling like this. It feels just so unfair sometimes and I just need to be that little bit stronger to cope with it. I'm ok now plus the sun is out and I'm off out on a few errands!

Geek what a pain about mning during the day now!

Leaves behind petite lemon and jam tarts, will catch up later x

Geek I meant carbo load! Got to love predictive text! How dare they move your desk and take you away from us!

Solars I know exactly how you feel. It's horrible feeling sad when you should be feeling happy for others. But it doesn't make you a bad person, just human. It is better now the sun is out. I'm off out for a run in it shortly!

Ahh thanks maybe, I understand now

okay okay I'm totes coming back in to the mn fold

I can post a long one now. BUT the lure of fresh crumpets just about did it!!

Yay!!

Whoop whoop

:):) Sparks you came home, we missed you

Yeah Sparks so lovely to see you again

Good luck for you tomorrow Solars hope those follies are all growing nicely. What time is your scan?

brooking for you Solars

Awww thanks Boo & Sweetie need all the brooking I can get! Scan is at 10.10am so will hopefully update you later on when I get back home!

Nice to see you back Sparkes

Night all x

Emergency brooking required?

I'm on it Solars

Good luck tomorrow xxx

Good luck for today solars, will be on tenterhooks till you let us know how it goes.

sparks good to see you, and looking forward to your update. Has time away from MN helped you? Though obviously you just missed us too damn much. Shame we've not had any graduates i think since you went off, 'cept maybe boo but can't remember how long you've been off.

geek that is not good news about the desk. I wish MN was less obvious, maybe they should put out a work-y version in dull colours, and without smilies. Genius!

solars i'm not sure if they'll cover all the initial appointments, but they are only 15-30pounds each, so we're happy to do so if not. We get about $5000 per cycle, up to 4 cycles. Not sure if the drugs budget might be separate to that, though. I am a bit wary because I imagine the clinics will just want us to do whatever's most profitable for them. so we are doing lots of research before we go, and as DH is a doctor, hopefully that will make them pull-the-wool a bit less. We just want to get a feel for a few clinics. One of them seems quite like a conveyor-belt for medical tourists. They just say oh, turn up 7 days before AF and you can start. er....? WTAF??? I guess they'd communicate with your home clinic, you'd hope. We'll see. First appt a week on sat.

boo have you done your spin now? was it ok? Are you feeling any less sick yet? and how long till your scan?

AF turned up proper in the night, which i'm glad about, if she had to come. So am a bit tired this morning. But am doing my best to keep her occupied and away from beedle.

Onwards and upwards.