Just MC and ready to try again? Pregnant after MC and seeking somewhere safe to hide? Recently graduated from the mosh pit? Come on down to the mosh pit for some serious metalling and cake!

[MarthasHarbour]

Continuation of the last thread.

There's cake for scoffing, backs for patting, and screeching death metal for all your metalling moments. All welcome so come on in and get settled into the plush sofas!

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So settle into the mosh pit, we have special VIP area's for those on the 2WW, the new bumps metalling with segregated areas for the first/second/third trimesters and the club class cocktail bar for those who have just got AF and can get-pissed let loose for the first two weeks!

And we have a recently refurbished Mosh Pit Nursery for the graduates IQ Manda and Blue, we are currently running a rota for babysitting so those three can go and get-pissed have some rest! I have done my bit this week so i need the next volunteer!

Jollyb I've decided if I don't take the TWW symptom spotting too seriously, then the time should go faster and I won't get too caught up in the madness. I'm looking forward to having you join me

Just popping on so I don't loose you all. I panic when I loose you all.

Good to hear lovely scan news, heres to more of the same.

Marbles Bollocks to CP's so sorry. Give yourself some time off and don't beat yourself up.

Martha not heard from you for a while. Can only assume this is bad and things bad with your friend. I hope I am wrong. Sending you a couple of licks anyway, just in case you need them.

I am shattered, growth spurt or old age. Not sure which. (not my growth spurt obviously - gave up home of that years ago).

Good luck to you all on the bastard TWW. I will bet that evil bitch AF with a stick if she shows up round any of your places.

bonzo that's a weird coincidence! good luck! Am having it easy today so far, only one accident and he is happily taking himself to the potty - seems to get cross if I badger him to go/remind him . And he stayed dry during his nap. Oh how proud!

confused I am distracting myself whenever i start thinking about impending possible pregnancy! Distract distract! Am not going to get sucked into my favourite pasttime symptom spotting

thanks for the threat of violence midget! I am fine about getting AF this month... it means bubs wasn't ready to come this month and that DH and I can actually go on our mini-honeymoon (a dirty booze filled, child-free weekend in york). Our first weekend away since the 2.6 year old! If I do get pg we probably won't go quite yet as we were keen to go before we got preggo (for the booze!)

sleep and eat midget, sleep and eat.

Well, I have been quietly mentalling away in the background. I took the decision to try and find some counselling. I have so many unresolved thoughts about my mc last summer, and I can feel irrational anxiety creeping in. It has been building for a while. Yesterday I convinced myself I had caught listeriosis from some ham. So I went to GPs today, I hope some good comes of it. Because I had a mini labour with the medical management in the delivery suite in hospital, I am terrified of it all being brought back with labour this time. I need some help with this.

On the good news front, I am hungry to a point of madness, getting a nice bump, having kicks. Today, I don't think I have listeriosis.

Evening!

Wilde enjoy the dirty weekend

Jaffa glad you are getting help; i think i may consider the same

Goth i sent a note to hospital about Tracy as she is a truly wonderful woman and i glad someone knows what i mean!

bonzo and wilde i will be potty training (help!) from 27/06 - chosen as we have no appointments for a month after that so can be stuck at home. Any tips welcome!

Wise woman Jaffa. Have they offered you anything?

btw totally get that my post was in the present tense not future as should be! not gor AF YET, on 2ww at mo :) hope not to get it, but if I do I shall have something else to be happy about!

I make no sense :)

jaffa glad you are seeking counselling. i didn't realise how weirdly I thought about the mc till I had a mini counselling session with a very kind dr and it all came out that my panic attacks were because I felt everyone around me would smell the death in me and think I was a freak (because I knowingly carried my dead pg around for a month before I could mc). I didn't even know this is how I thought! Am signed up for counselling even though i think I am 'better' now, but would like to enjoy a new pg as much as I can. These experiences change a person and not for the better unless we can get our head around it. good luck x

mrspear only potty training tips I am working with are go cold turkey and just do it! no nappies even for naps, none for outings and carry a potty everywhere! I took mine to the pool today (not poolside! hehe) in an asda bag slung over the pushchair - chic, non?!

happy friday nights y'all - I got told off by my toddler for having the radio too loud and singing too much and actually whined at him that it was friday night...

Sorry have not been on for a couple of days....state so glad your scan went well....

To all in the horrible 2WW my advice (if you choose to take it!) is to have a glass of you'll miss it when your BFP arrives!

jaffa and wilde it's so interesting to hear about your feelings about your mc and need for counselling. I got paranoid after mine because I thought my SIL didn't want me near her baby (prob just cos she wanted him to keep napping!) as if I was infective or something, but can totally see how those sorts of thoughts can become overwhelming, no matter what the actual circumstances / details of each individual's experience are....if that makes sense....anyway good on you for taking action....

Low grade metalling going on here constantly, have forgotten what 'relaxed' feels like! Made the mistake of looking up expected foetal heart rates for crown-rump length and realised 112 is low for 8mm, so going to go for previously arranged scan tomorrow week for yet more reassurance (fx). Felt nice and queasy all day today though ......

jaffa I hope talking to someone helps you get some peace :)

Just a quick one from me before I eat my own hand from starvation, had a shite evening, we decided to hit cambs at rush hour with the dc to look at cars it was hell

Jaffa hope the counselling helps and that your ok, I've thought about the same but I don't think I'm ready yet.

wilde here's to hoping the mini honeymoon will have to wait!

Good luck to all those potty training at the moment my Sis is trying my dn, who is point blank refusing at the mo

Well it's funny how things that didn't worry you at all suddenly start panicking you when your pg again, I was sure I'd go for a vb if possible but I'm not so sure now. It might not be an option anyway. Realy am getting a head of myself!

Well we have a moving date, it's weds so I'm trying to pack up the house. Ds3 is not impressed. He has taken to shouting down! Down! Whenever I pick something up to pack it. Looks like he may decide to walk any day now. So far he has refused but forgot himself this morning and actually turned round without holding on.

My ds didn't potty train until 3yrs 3months, no interest or signs of readiness and then dry overnight in pants all day no accidents. Night times he was 4 but again no accidents except one time I let him glug a whole juice before bed and didn't send him toilet before bed or wake him to pee when I went to bed. Whereas dd trained at 2.5yrs but we had the odd bad week until 3, and the odd bad day now, not dry at night yet (because I'm too fecking scared to unsettle her, the little sleep we get is precious)

Morning everyone!

Jaffa, good for you - these things can be really helpful for trying to deal all sorts of things life throws at us and I really hope it can help you

wilde oooh we had our honeymoon in York - love it,love it, love it!!!

moomin poor you - packing is one of my all time least favourite things!

Have progressed to an almost AF but not quite as heavy as usual so reading around it's probably just mc phase 2. I was thinking I'd been lucky (absolutely not the right word but I hope you'll know what I mean...) because I'd heard some mcs required pads changing every hour and mine was nowhere near so heavy and intense but it looks like I know why now. All makes me feel incredibly impatient to be honest - I thought I'd done this stage and was moving onto getting back to normal :(

Sorry to rant first thing on a Saturday morning. Will be firing up the stove in a bit for beans on toast for DH and a veggy bacon butty for me - any other orders while I'm at it? I don't need telling to get the coffee brewing...

Ah, goth and mrspear, I saw Tracey at PRUH too! She's lovely, even though I saw her the day after we'd had my MMC diagnosed at the 12wk scan. We're obviously all quite local.

Hope everyone's well, I'm just getting on - 16 weeks now! Eek. I keep sort of thinking I might be able to feel it, then slapping myself because it might have all gone wrong and I'd be giving myself 'false reassurance'. I'm mental.

GPB every chance you can feel little flutters at this stage so allow yourself the reassurance it brings. Metalling we have in spades.

Lurker just marking her place....another AF so metalling ended for another few wks....

lays out croissants and coffee for breakfast

Just catching up quickly. Dorita sorry AF has arrived, hope you have a nice glass of wine for later to make up for it a bit :)

GPB I definitely started feeling little flutters when DS was about 16 weeks. I noticed it particularly when I was lying on my back...

Hugs, cheap

DH snoring upstairs... I could do with a long lie, I'll make sure I get one tomorrow. He needs to get his strength up for tonight - I reckon I'm going to ovulate sometime in the next couple of days

Morning-ish everyone.

Well I'm stupidly teary and emotional today, had a little tear and dp told me to get a grip, "you'll just never be happy will you, we've had two scans now its fine!" I wasn't upset about the baby, I'm worried about his operation monday, moving, car hunting, ds birthday in a few weeks which I'm in NO way prepared for, dds behaviour general life stuff and I just feel a bit poorly :(

Sorry AF has arrived dorita

GPB I'm 13wks and I'm sure I feel something every evening, usually the exact same time roughly between 10 and 11.

Huge hugs cheap ill have a bacon sarnie if your offering :)

Good luck packing moomin I hate it, last time we moved dd and ds unpacked 8 boxes whilst I made lunch I'm dreading doing it again soon!

Oh state I'm not surprised you're in a ... well, a state!! Even without the hormones that's a lot to deal with. Have a large glass of wine slice of chocolate cake and a cuppa and try and put your feet up for a bit x

Can anyone tell me what ovulation pains feel like? I had a kind of shabby feeling on my left hand side earlier, just above my hips - probably further up than where I imagine my ovaries are (not that I know anything lol)...

Well dp (d standing for dick head today) has no fathers day present or card, he's the driver and he's basically been foul all day and refused to take me and the dc out so we've got nothing.

Now I feel sad and guilty --and like smacking him round the head with a wok--

Thanks state Sorry you're having an emotional time, I agree that a nice piece of cake would help...

Thanks too backwardp have had a large beer tonight! Think ov pains are what you describe. Not that I know either, there are so many twinges, aches etc that I go mad if I pay too much attention to them all, think some are just wind!

Thanks D - it could easily be wind... 'Shabby' was supposed to say 'stabby' - I've just got myself a new Mac and it does the same auto-correct thing that iPad/iPhone does. The last one didn't do this! Might have to turn it off, although it has been useful a couple of times.

Well state it's his own fault, right? Breakfast in bed instead if you're feeling guilty?

Sorry to hear you're having a bad day state

Has anyone heard from Boris? I hope she is doing ok.

CD19: today's symptom is extreme tiredness. This is obviously because DD was up all night with a fever a sign that implantation has happened!

Morning all. DD decided to start fathers' day extra early today (yawn, rubs sleep from eyes).

hands out tea and biscuits

Same here confused, I've dragged a duvet downstairs now they've eaten a mamoth breakfast, stuck the disney babysitter on, and intend to dose a little, my back hurts I feel sick and after dps cock wombling yesterday I really am not in the mood for today.