2 DPO - 2WW, Who's with me?? :D

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.. Hi guys, So i'm 2DPO. Had Realllly awful cramping when i ov'd not sure if this is normal. Never been that bad before, lasted about 2 hours then i was fine. Anyway, worst part of ttc.. the dreaded 2ww!!

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good luck at the doctors everything hope it goes well for you.

PS. kicking and pickled hows the 'no googling' working out? I have been good since yesterday and not googled or been on any sites to match symptoms. I am going to try to not think about it at all this week (hahaha - laughing at myself!).

Ah red the 2nd week of the 2ww is definitely the worst isn't it, its like so near but so far to finding out! Really hope it flys by for you.

yes queen it is pure hell. I wish I could block it all out.
Its difficult when all you keep dreaming about is a BFP and then AF will be such a blow.

How far along in your cycle are you?

I'm CD8 at the mo so just starting on dtd. I will be the same as you in a week or so. You're doing so well holding off testing again though, doubt I could

Red - i had AF last Wednesday - 4 days late with every "symptom" possible.

DH and i have decided to DTD EOD and he had forbidden OV sticks this month

The ladies on here are to remind me next month that there are no symtoms and if there are symptoms, i can get a pg test because symptoms are caused by pg hormone. I hope i can maintain that there

good luck. Its rubbish :D

Ohh red i feel for you, worst part of the month. i do hope u have some great news for us very soon :)

doctors went great, my dr is fab! hes ordered an ultrasound for me in a few weeks. so if i have endo, cysts or anything else i will no :)

Hopefuly im all clear + can relax a little x

& im glad u pointed this out to us all kicking if pg symptoms are their poas haha!
im not going to poas untill im late, now ino cycles r back too normal and im regular its all much easier xx

i have these threads to keep me from POAS every day and kicking your advice always helps me curb my insanity.

DH is so chilled and calm - its because hes not feeling any changes in his body, he just has to make sure his soldiers are ready every month.

I wish at times that our bodies would stop sending us these signals and signs that might not mean anything and then we can stop obsessing over it.

glad the docs were good everything fx for an all clear at the ultrasound too.

Thank you red :) xxx

Throwing a spanner in the works here but they can't pick up endo without actually doing a laparoscopy or having surgery - I know the only way they found out that I was all clear was with my myomectomy. They'd cut me open and they could see then because they suspected it from when I was very young (painful AF and all that).

And cysts is that internal scan. I had PCOS (the syndrome) and they picked up cysts once and put me on the pill for a month to get rid of them. Nothing else since and because of the fibroids, I had internal scans every 3 months for 3 years.

What that means is that there IS a difference between PCOS and cysts from PCOS. You can be completely fine with the syndrome - it's when you get the cysts that you need to worry.

Sorry but I know because I have PCOS and I spent a lot of time worrying about endo so I had all the checks and stuff but neither of them are any fun. Plus with the fibroids and my gynae checked what she could but they won't pick up endo on a scan. Just so you know. If they say they can, they're not being entirely honest

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Read this:

www.patient.co.uk/health/Polycystic-Ovary-Syndrome.htm

This is exactly what my doctor said. And that PCOS actually is named incorrectly. But read that link up there. I have PCOS and if she was in any way concerned about it, she would have done something about it. She has been my regular gynae since I was 16 years old and she said I should have no fertility issues whatsoever

How common is polycystic ovary syndrome?
PCOS is common. Research studies of women who had an ultrasound scan of their ovaries found that up to 1 in 4 young women have polycystic ovaries (ovaries with many small cysts). However, many of these women were healthy, ovulated normally, and did not have high levels of male hormones.

However, it is thought that up to 1 in 10 women have polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS) - that is, at least two of: polycystic ovaries, a raised level of male hormone, reduced ovulation. However, these figures may be higher.

There is a difference between having polycystic ovaries and polycystic ovarian syndrome.

I read up that only if it is severe endo they can on a scan, mild to moderate can't apparently.. Ive had a cyst back in January found when i had a scan after MC, it was 6cm, i had another scan early march and everything "appeared normal" with my ovaries!

Apparently with endo u get chocolate cysts that will appear on scans then they would do a laparoscopy to diagnose properly! Im really worried, but my periods have always been painful so i think even if i had it mild-moderate and its not picked up, maybe its nothing to worry about with already having DC? x

I also have painful AF and it's just something that is there

I asked my gynae if endo would appear suddenly at a later stage and she said "highly unlikely" - so if you didn't have an issue the first time around, the chances of it suddenly appearing now are slim

Yep, I had a few cysts picked up on my ovaries as well and they just got rid of them. I don't worry about PCOS at all. I am more scared about the fibroids coming back. And none of what I have had is likely to effect my fertility. The fact that you already have a child means you probably just need to DTD a bit more, stress less and have some patience. It will happen :)

I think you have to worry if you're HIGHLY irregular and very heavy for endo. And the worse your symptoms, the worse you would be. If you had severe endo, you wouldn't have conceived your first child. You would know all about it.

This is just what I've been told. I'm not a doctor but I believe that PCOS has been thrown around incorrectly a fair bit and that's what my doctor told me...

pcos is 1 of the things ive never worried about, im only worried because of AF is so painful, like mild contractions(not nice) been in tears on my hands n knees with it some months. ive always been like this though and get ovulation pain, dr said thats also normal. i reallly hope i haven't got this :) but thought its safer to check. and endo can happen after a c-sec 9which i had) something to do with the scar tissue, never had a cyst etc b4 ds but afterwards have! im regular though, and wouldn't say periods r extremly heavy just average most likely x

Just wanted to add that I am not trying to put you down either or trivialise what you're going through

But my gynae told me when I was 16 that I probably had endo so it was something I stressed about for YEARS.

When I was 28, I had a myomectomy and I didn't have a wif of endo. All that stressing for nothing! I also have friends (a lot of friends) with endo - some conceive after the scraping surgery (within 6 months), others have been trying for 4 years to conceive and nothing seems to work.

The overwhelming thing with endo is that if you do have it, conceiving is hard. So I think you are safe you kind of destress a bit because you're body has already shown you that you are fertile.

Unlike mine :D

Would you be able to have natural birth or would they do c-sec?

Totally worth it to check - agree. I know my scar does some things after a run and sometimes it just does play up. I think I notice it more TTC now

It's the same scar as yours - it's about 8inches along my bikini line.

My AF is sore too, if that helps. If I don't take about 4 of those extra strength ibuprofen within an hour of AF starting, I am done. I can't walk, can't do anything, my legs go numb, my body goes hot and cold, I get a fever. It's unreal. I spend one day eating 400mg Ibuprofen by the bucket and then it just goes away

I am hoping it's all ok for you though. If you get something from c-sec, I am going to worry though!! I didn't know the scar could contribute to endo?

i wouldn't worry ive only read that on internet, haven't had that confirmed by a professional :)
I would most likely have a 2nd/3rd .. c-section tbh!!

• although am sorry its painful for u, its comforting to no its pretty normal :)

I know what you mean. There is much comfort in knowing that we're not alone. That's why we do the Google thing in the 2ww!!

I would rather have the cut again - I didn't find it that painful although I can image that changes when you have a baby to look after?

I am worried about natural and my cut. Do you think we get a choice?

Morning ladies

everything glad your doctor is good and I'm sure all will be ok at your ultrasound Did the doctor just tell you to carry on as normal with the ttc in the meantime?

I'm a bit annoyed today. Was supposed to be home by 11pm last night for first sesh of the month with DH, however stuff happened at work and didn't get home till gone 2am. Obviously DH was in bed already as he was up at 6am for work. He tried to cuddle me this morning before he left but I was too exhausted to wake up properly to dtd. So its now CD9 and we still haven't dtd once! I think I posted on another thread about how I'm noticing CM changes much earlier this month and think I may ovulate early? Really worried now that I'm going to miss it

Hey Queen - have you tried the OPK's?

Have you noticed that the CM is the EW stuff? Stringy and stuff?

I am CD 7 I think and DTD on CD 5 so tonights the night as well

Yes been using OPKs for a few months which had my ovulation as around CD14ish. Not sure about stringy CM but its definitely a lot thicker than usual and I feel constantly wet down there (sorry if tmi).

Happy dtd tonight Hoping to get home from work early so I can too!

Forgot to say I have ditched the OPKs this month in an attempt to be less obsessed, maybe I should have stuck with them?

Nope Queenie - we've ditched the OPKs as well. And we're going for every second day. And I will try the CM thing - google it. It's meant to look like egg white and have a consistency so you can actually pull it apart.

But getting wetter is meant to be a sign that you're coming up to OV.

Lately, everyone I've spoken to about conceiving - the ones who didn't bother about OV and just DTD every second or third day had babies within 3 months.

And I think OPKs and BBT are fairly inaccurate. And it's as you say - we've begun to obsess about it. I don't want to obsess anymore. I've obsessed for too long now!!

I think the every second day also gives the swimmers a chance to recoup :D

No queen i dont think your too later i have all ovulation symptoms right from when AF ends, but don't actually ovulate until CD11. just dtd asap :)

• apparently now u can have a choice no matter what circumstances are, if u want a c-sec u can. thats what ive heard. because ive had a previous 1, and had a really bad time i will have the option next time. i always wanted a lovely natural water birth, no drugs and all that!! doesn't always work out though, i couldn't cope with the pain!! xx

Thanks ladies, I was worried OV was coming early but looks like I may just be approaching it. I've just got home from work (late again!) - unfortunately DH couldn't wait up for me as he's leaving for work by 6.30 in the morning. Hate the shifts I'm on at the moment!! Luckily last one is tomorrow then have couple of days off from Thurs, which is CD11. Hoping I don't ovulate before then because if work carries on like it is then we don't get chance to dtd on Weds either!

everything I love the idea of a natural water birth, I'm a bit of a wimp though so reckon I'd prob prefer the drugs than going natural