TTC 10 plus months, part 6

[mrsden]

A friendly, supportive thread for those of us who are taking a bloody long little longer time than average to conceive.

I'm experiencing similar nelly. Had tinge last thurs, v light fri, period for 5 days that was normal (tmi- first time ever no clots) and have had on off bleeding yesterday and today. I could also swear I'm having ovulation pain. What is up with my body? Question is rhetorical btw!
Just off out for the eve but will have a good catch up tomorrow x

Not wanting to spoil the daydream in any way nelly but last cycle when I had the very early heavy spotting drama I bled for 10/11 days in all (including the spotting at the start). Am definitely not preggers since I tested on Wednesday with the pathetic excuse of wanting to be sure of non pregnant state before taking the AF blocker tablets

Test to assure yourself all is well maybe isn't a bad idea though

gameover Is your GP male or female??, definitely change GP though, no offence but with your age they should have referred after around 6 months of ttc to a fertility clinic. As others have said your GP can do some simple blood tests like day 3 and 21 and also a thyroid test, and your DH can do a SA. 21 days is a short cycle but depends on when you actually ovulate in your cycle, if your LP is short then that could be a problem for implantation. My GP is usually good, she had fertility issues and had twins on IVF. She has held my hand through 2 miscarriages, sent me for many scans and blood tests, literally does referrals straight away and always calls me with test results, even at 8pm on a friday night :) AlP so your GP surgery has to offer you an appointment with in so many days, i've never waited longer than 9 days and that was too long.

artemis it used to be that if you were started on the NHS and then went private you couldn't go back to the NHS but that has now changed, was actually chatting to a colleague about it at today. There is still that niggling feeling about the miscarriages especially the second where I got to 10 weeks.

princess will they remove the cysts or let them sort themselves out?? Neither option is great

joyce Croatia is beautiful and you can avoid cities like Zagreb but places like Zadar and Split are not very big but beautiful. Bordeaux or the South of France are also nice and Holland ooooh the Scandinavian countries are beautiful except Finland which is a bit boring. Of course there are lots of beautiful places in the UK and Ireland too. Maybe look at lastminute.com

becks there is an abbreviation/acronyms list just below the ovulation calculator sign at the top of the page :) glad you are feeling more positive

lady Scotland is beautiful, we went on hols with family a couple of years ago and we all lived to tell the tale the nhs will help me when I get pregnant, I will have scans at weeks at 6,8,10 and 14, and EPAU at St Helier have been great, it was just the redistrar who wasn't helpful, she described me as desperate in her letter to my GP no shit sherlock of course I am!!!

kitty sorry you are feeling so anxious, i'm sure its just your uterus expanding

nelly Its annoying when your body doesn't behave like it should have you tested?? I had spotting/slight bleeding with my second pregnancy :)

wine sorry you are feeling scared about the op, but its a step forward and closer to you having a baby :)

Well I woke up at 3am stressing about AF starting and having the blood tests, luckily my first patient is nice so we had a cuppa and watched some kiddy tv while I played with cat well AF showed up and I had my last blood test, sorting out DH's test next weekend.

Waves to everyone else :)

Happy Friday evening ladies. I had a nice evening hobbling in my tight britches . I am now on the - well if I'm having the record breaking AF I may as well make the most of the only consolation.

I can confirm firstly that Scotland is a lovely place to go on holiday, not dull and certainly you will survive the trip . The west coast is lovely in particular, joycep if that is something you fancy let me know and I can recommend some areas - or at least Mr Nelly can! We are lucky in that his parents have a house up that way so we'll be off in a couple of weeks actually. Also we were in Croatia a couple of years ago and it's very nice (dubrovnik and hvar were both lovely) but we found it expensive - South of France also lovely, Italy too. 38 weeks and still hobbling - eek at your friend! If I do ever get a BFP keep going, I think probably only till about 4 or 5 months. But we'll see.

gameover how awful that not only did you have to go through such a hellish thing when you were young, but that your doctor is so insensitive as to refer to it now.

How are you feeling now kitty. Hopefully the pain is just the bean snuggling in, but as we've said before on this thread I'm sure none of us will rest from BFP until we are holding that snuggly newborn. LOL at Headsearched. I love Ab Fab - so many quotes. Laptop? Lap.....top???? Lap....

Your uni days sound fun artemis. I too was a bit of a DM fan, although otherwise I was a bit square in my dress sense I fear. I probably still am actually!

princess I am now also in awe at your resolve to give up dairy. There is just no way I'd do it. You have my utmost respect! Your hubby sounds like a gem.

Well done on the happy feelings on scan pic euro. That is a lot more than I can manage! Although we are about to book to go and see my sister next month (who'll be about 6 months by then) I am completely avoiding my SiL. Can't face the prospect of baby chat.

Agh pout a leaking roof is just all you need. There is always something falling apart here, it drives me nuts!

lisa I am and at the registrar describing you as desperate. Sometimes the arrogance of doctors belies belief.

As always I've left it till too late in the evening to post and can't concentrate properly. I've not POAS as it does seem rather pointless - my reasoning would be I've had too much of a period which seems idiotic when you look at it like that. I haven't had time to ask Dr Google, this week has been rather manic between work and hobbling. Sorry you are experiencing equal head-fuckness frannie. Well, if I wasn't obsessing over weird goings on in my lady bits, what else would I do with my time .

Right the hobble needs her pyjamas on and I need my bed.......TFI Friday!

Waves to everyone I've missed (loads) and hope you all have a lovely weekend :)

Hello! Wowee what a lot of posts in one day! Hope you?re all about to have lovely and relaxing weekends, and apologies in advance for those I miss out - a big hug to you all. Thanks for being so funny and cheering me up! I love hearing about the questionable whippersnapper fashion choices. 'Back when I was cool', as Mr Critter likes to say, I too aspired to the infamous Bjork hair in knots look, teamed with glitter on face and Spice Girl trainers with thick soles and looked a right prat .

Nelly I hope you are feeling better, sorry you?ve been having confusing bleeding. Really frustrating to not know what?s going on, on top of everything else.

Euro I second lemon?s well done on feeling happy about other people?s scan pictures, even if they are of hard-won babies. You are a champ! That is interesting about you not having dairy and basically being low GI. I think I am going to try to take a leaf out of your and princess?s books on the diet front. It can?t hurt and it could help with my annual ?get ripped for summer? campaign ? if I?m not pregnant this summer, at least I can look like hot stuff in my swimmers!

Princess you have inspired me with your non-dairy diet! I managed a whole day today without any cheese or milky coffee . We?ll see how long I last! And I agree with artemis, your mum may well have had PCOS but not known. Apart from the post-pill amenorrhea and some delightful cystic spots around my chin and jaw (I dubbed one ?Mount Vesuvius? last week, and Mr C still fondly remembers another whopper that I had in the winter of 2006) I don?t have any other symptoms ? no extra hair and I?m a normal weight.

Joycep thanks for your reassurance about other people who have had the same lack of au naturel perioding as me? that makes me feel hopeful! Scotland would be lovely, as would Cornwall, perhaps slightly warmer which would be nice ? I spent a week in Fowey in Cornwall once with Mr Critter and we went out on a fishing boat, caught mackerel and grilled it for lunch, it was totally thrilling! And I highly recommend getting out of the city and away, just the two of you. I try to do that with Mr C as often as possible, and it is a real tonic.

Gameover I am so sorry about what happened to you when you were younger, and I?m outraged by your horrible GP - that kind of brush off is totally, totally unacceptable. I hope you can transfer to a new surgery and get the answers you need.

Pout good luck with the roof, hope it is fixed and that you?re warm and dry! I am jealous of your collies, they are such gorgeous regal dogs.

Artemis thanks for sharing your experience with the Clomid and the OPKs. I have been alright on 150mg, I mean, I do get sad, but it?s hard to know what is hormones and what is just general homesickness and feeling crap about no baby, if you see what I mean. I definitely don?t feel fab on it. But I think some people are probably more sensitive to hormonal changes than others ? I never really felt like I got PMT, for instance. I do feel rotten on the progesterone, which I have to take before the Clomid to get a period.

I?ve added myself to the ever-growing list:

joycep - me, 32, DH 30. ttc 23 months (27/28 cycles). M/c @ 7 wks July 2010. Nothing since. Short LP of 10/11days (relevant? Who knows). Progesterone levels low [30]. Estrogen dominant, hypoglycaemia, Left ovary lazy but ovulate every month. HSG all clear. Low AMH for my age. Potassium levels low. Healthy BMI. 9 months of treatment including Clomid (messed me up), 2 x IUI, ovitrelle and gonal f injections. SA good (7%morph). Next step: Chicago tests, Lapascopy (if poss) , sperm fragmentation test and then ivf i guess.



minipie - me 31, DH 32, ttc 11 months but only on 10th cycle due to longish cycles. PCOS diagnosed by scan. Blood tests normal except slight underactive thyroid (now corrected with thyroxine). BMI normal. DH's SA had low morphology (3%) but otherwise good. No other tests or treatments yet (except acu). First appointment with gynae on 21 March... BFP?



Mrsden - me 30, soon to be 31, DH 31. TTC for 21 months. PCOS but ovulating ok most months. DH very low count, poor morphology. Will start ICSI in summer.



ladygee ttc 15 months. Me 29, DH 32. DH SA is below average on all counts (don't remember all the stats). HSG showed blockage at the opening of my right tube. Self-funded cycle of IVF ICSI in Feb, ended with BFN. Awaiting follow-up appointment to talk through next steps. We are also on NHS waiting list for ICSI, probably at the end of 2012.



lemon - both 33, TTC 22 months, unexplained (after bloods, too much dildo camming, HSG and plenty of SAs - although those varied quite a bit), now onto second IUI

euro - me 36, hubby 37, ttc 18 cycles with a couple of years of being casual before that, never seen a BFP but might have had a chem preg back in the casual period. My standard tests all fine. Some indication of PCOS but I'm ovulating regularly so it shouldn't be the problem. Hubby's tests also fine but on the low side of normal. Diagnosed as "unexplained". private immunology tests show high NK cells, but I have been on treatment for those for the past 5 cycles. Tried three cycles of superovulation (Letrozole). Currently on first attempt at IUI.



princess - me
 30, OH 34. Accidentally updiffed in May 2009, MC at 6wks in June 2009. Decided that we wanted a baby, so continued trying until Oct 2009 when we got engaged and decided to give baby-making a break as I was finding it too draining and needed to take time out to deal with MC (and plan wedding). Started trying again in September 2010. Pg in April 2011 and MC in May 2011 at 7wks. Have been SWI like rabbits since then. Started blood tests in March 2012 following irregular mid-cycle bleeds, which have shown weird hormone levels - too much LH and not enough Prog. Scan yesterday to show lots of cysts on right ovary and a few on left. Follow up with GP next week to discuss scan, blood test results from earlier this week and next steps. Will be off to see a nutritional therapist next week to see if I can combat with diet and supplements. That makes TTC on and off for 25 months.

Critter 32, Mr Critter 33. TTC a year ? came off Yasmin in April 2011, periods never came back. Scan in November 2011 showed cysts on ovaries, blood tests all normal. Took progesterone to induce a period, followed by first round of 50mg Clomid in December 2011 ? no ovulation. Repeated progesterone followed by 100 mg Clomid in February 2012 ? no ovulation. Repeated progesterone followed by 150mg Clomid in April 2012 ? seems to be no ovulation, just waiting to make sure before going back to the doctor for a referral to a specialist.

Not sure how but I seem to have dropped off the list. Just adding myself back in! Hopefully this has everyone's updates on it.

joycep - me, 32, DH 30. ttc 23 months (27/28 cycles). M/c @ 7 wks July 2010. Nothing since. Short LP of 10/11days (relevant? Who knows). Progesterone levels low [30]. Estrogen dominant, hypoglycaemia, Left ovary lazy but ovulate every month. HSG all clear. Low AMH for my age. Potassium levels low. Healthy BMI. 9 months of treatment including Clomid (messed me up), 2 x IUI, ovitrelle and gonal f injections. SA good (7%morph). Next step: Chicago tests, Lapascopy (if poss) , sperm fragmentation test and then ivf i guess.



minipie - me 31, DH 32, ttc 11 months but only on 10th cycle due to longish cycles. PCOS diagnosed by scan. Blood tests normal except slight underactive thyroid (now corrected with thyroxine). BMI normal. DH's SA had low morphology (3%) but otherwise good. No other tests or treatments yet (except acu). First appointment with gynae on 21 March... BFP?



Mrsden - me 30, soon to be 31, DH 31. TTC for 21 months. PCOS but ovulating ok most months. DH very low count, poor morphology. Will start ICSI in summer.



ladygee ttc 15 months. Me 29, DH 32. DH SA is below average on all counts (don't remember all the stats). HSG showed blockage at the opening of my right tube. Self-funded cycle of IVF ICSI in Feb, ended with BFN. Awaiting follow-up appointment to talk through next steps. We are also on NHS waiting list for ICSI, probably at the end of 2012.



lemon - both 33, TTC 22 months, unexplained (after bloods, too much dildo camming, HSG and plenty of SAs - although those varied quite a bit), now onto second IUI

euro - me 36, hubby 37, ttc 18 cycles with a couple of years of being casual before that, never seen a BFP but might have had a chem preg back in the casual period. My standard tests all fine. Some indication of PCOS but I'm ovulating regularly so it shouldn't be the problem. Hubby's tests also fine but on the low side of normal. Diagnosed as "unexplained". private immunology tests show high NK cells, but I have been on treatment for those for the past 5 cycles. Tried three cycles of superovulation (Letrozole). Currently on first attempt at IUI.



princess - me
 30, OH 34. Accidentally updiffed in May 2009, MC at 6wks in June 2009. Decided that we wanted a baby, so continued trying until Oct 2009 when we got engaged and decided to give baby-making a break as I was finding it too draining and needed to take time out to deal with MC (and plan wedding). Started trying again in September 2010. Pg in April 2011 and MC in May 2011 at 7wks. Have been SWI like rabbits since then. Started blood tests in March 2012 following irregular mid-cycle bleeds, which have shown weird hormone levels - too much LH and not enough Prog. Scan yesterday to show lots of cysts on right ovary and a few on left. Follow up with GP next week to discuss scan, blood test results from earlier this week and next steps. Will be off to see a nutritional therapist next week to see if I can combat with diet and supplements. That makes TTC on and off for 25 months.

Critter 32, Mr Critter 33. TTC a year ? came off Yasmin in April 2011, periods never came back. Scan in November 2011 showed cysts on ovaries, blood tests all normal. Took progesterone to induce a period, followed by first round of 50mg Clomid in December 2011 ? no ovulation. Repeated progesterone followed by 100 mg Clomid in February 2012 ? no ovulation. Repeated progesterone followed by 150mg Clomid in April 2012 ? seems to be no ovulation, just waiting to make sure before going back to the doctor for a referral to a specialist.

euro - me 36, hubby 37, ttc 18 cycles with a couple of years of being casual before that, never seen a BFP but might have had a chem preg back in the casual period. My standard tests all fine. Some indication of PCOS but I'm ovulating regularly so it shouldn't be the problem. Hubby's tests also fine but on the low side of normal. Diagnosed as "unexplained". private immunology tests show high NK cells, but I have been on treatment for those for the past 5 cycles. Tried three cycles of superovulation (Letrozole). Currently on first attempt at IUI.

Gah, sorry euro, that must have been a cut and paste fail on my part.

Just adding a few more but they are a bit out of date

joycep - me, 32, DH 30. ttc 23 months (27/28 cycles). M/c @ 7 wks July 2010. Nothing since. Short LP of 10/11days (relevant? Who knows). Progesterone levels low [30]. Estrogen dominant, hypoglycaemia, Left ovary lazy but ovulate every month. HSG all clear. Low AMH for my age. Potassium levels low. Healthy BMI. 9 months of treatment including Clomid (messed me up), 2 x IUI, ovitrelle and gonal f injections. SA good (7%morph). Next step: Chicago tests, Lapascopy (if poss) , sperm fragmentation test and then ivf i guess.

minipie - me 31, DH 32, ttc 11 months but only on 10th cycle due to longish cycles. PCOS diagnosed by scan. Blood tests normal except slight underactive thyroid (now corrected with thyroxine). BMI normal. DH's SA had low morphology (3%) but otherwise good. No other tests or treatments yet (except acu). First appointment with gynae on 21 March... BFP?

Mrsden - me 30, soon to be 31, DH 31. TTC for 21 months. PCOS but ovulating ok most months. DH very low count, poor morphology. Will start ICSI in summer.

ladygee ttc 15 months. Me 29, DH 32. DH SA is below average on all counts (don't remember all the stats). HSG showed blockage at the opening of my right tube. Self-funded cycle of IVF ICSI in Feb, ended with BFN. Awaiting follow-up appointment to talk through next steps. We are also on NHS waiting list for ICSI, probably at the end of 2012.



lemon - both 33, TTC 22 months, unexplained (after bloods, too much dildo camming, HSG and plenty of SAs - although those varied quite a bit), now onto second IUI

euro - me 36, hubby 37, ttc 18 cycles with a couple of years of being casual before that, never seen a BFP but might have had a chem preg back in the casual period. My standard tests all fine. Some indication of PCOS but I'm ovulating regularly so it shouldn't be the problem. Hubby's tests also fine but on the low side of normal. Diagnosed as "unexplained". private immunology tests show high NK cells, but I have been on treatment for those for the past 5 cycles. Tried three cycles of superovulation (Letrozole). Currently on first attempt at IUI.



princess - me 30, OH 34. Accidentally updiffed in May 2009, MC at 6wks in June 2009. Decided that we wanted a baby, so continued trying until Oct 2009 when we got engaged and decided to give baby-making a break as I was finding it too draining and needed to take time out to deal with MC (and plan wedding). Started trying again in September 2010. Pg in April 2011 and MC in May 2011 at 7wks. Have been SWI like rabbits since then. Started blood tests in March 2012 following irregular mid-cycle bleeds, which have shown weird hormone levels - too much LH and not enough Prog. Scan yesterday to show lots of cysts on right ovary and a few on left. Follow up with GP next week to discuss scan, blood test results from earlier this week and next steps. Will be off to see a nutritional therapist next week to see if I can combat with diet and supplements. That makes TTC on and off for 25 months.

Critter 32, Mr Critter 33. TTC a year ? came off Yasmin in April 2011, periods never came back. Scan in November 2011 showed cysts on ovaries, blood tests all normal. Took progesterone to induce a period, followed by first round of 50mg Clomid in December 2011 ? no ovulation. Repeated progesterone followed by 100 mg Clomid in February 2012 ? no ovulation. Repeated progesterone followed by 150mg Clomid in April 2012 ? seems to be no ovulation, just waiting to make sure before going back to the doctor for a referral to a specialist.

euro - me 36, hubby 37, ttc 18 cycles with a couple of years of being casual before that, never seen a BFP but might have had a chem preg back in the casual period. My standard tests all fine. Some indication of PCOS but I'm ovulating regularly so it shouldn't be the problem. Hubby's tests also fine but on the low side of normal. Diagnosed as "unexplained". private immunology tests show high NK cells, but I have been on treatment for those for the past 5 cycles. Tried three cycles of superovulation (Letrozole). Currently on first attempt at IUI.

wine 35 (33 when started ttc) I am ovulating day 21prog 47 and regular 29 day cycles, DH latest SA 7% morphology with excellent count and motility. Previous SA 3% but count, motility were fine. Vits thought to have helped, consultant says no probs there. Failed HSG due to cervical blockage, lap and dye dec 2011 revealed large plum sized fibroid partially blocking cervix. Consequent u/s and MRI have revealed that the 'broid is an elusive bugger and mapping it out has been highly problematic. Consultant can't do myomectomy (fibroid removal) til he's confident of location so awaiting next lap and internal exam in two weeks. He doesn't think it renders me infertile as I'm still having periods and thus on paper we are unexplained . There are not a lot of cases like mine, assisted conception not possible yet due to blockage. In spite of all this I have not yet gone insane.

lisa 39 DH 38, TTC #1 for 12 cycles, miscarriages in June @ 6 weeks and October @ 10 weeks, 2 x ERPC's with a perforated uterus. Diagnosed with High NK cells, Starting cycle 2 of Super Ovulation on 80mgs of Tamxifen, suspected thin lining due to scars, possibly requiring a Hysteroscopy. Possibly looking at IVF.

ginsoaked ttc #1 21 months. Me 33, DH 33. DH has severe sperm issues - count of 3 million, poor motility and morphology. My tests all ok. No IVF funding in our area, so currently undergoing parent privately funded round of ICSI with Create in Wimbledon. Am stimming and about to start the antagonist. Eeek

Pout TTC #1 28 cycles-ish. Me 36, DH 41. Diagnosed with unexplained fertility following normal bloods, HSG, ultrasound and SA and discharged from clinic last year. Subsequently moved house to a new PCT and had new referral. Am waiting for a lap, another HSG and hysterogram (sp?) booked for beginning of May.

Artemis TTC #1 24 months. Me 38, DP 40. Early MC a year ago, referred for tests beginning of this year. Day 3 bloods normal, 7dpo bloods inconclusive, SA normal, no other investigations & no diagnosis yet. Prescribed 3 cycles of Clomid (currently at beginning of cycle 2), next option IVF.

euro you had merged with lemons have sorted it out though

joycep - me, 32, DH 30. ttc 23 months (27/28 cycles). M/c @ 7 wks July 2010. Nothing since. Short LP of 10/11days (relevant? Who knows). Progesterone levels low [30]. Estrogen dominant, hypoglycaemia, Left ovary lazy but ovulate every month. HSG all clear. Low AMH for my age. Potassium levels low. Healthy BMI. 9 months of treatment including Clomid (messed me up), 2 x IUI, ovitrelle and gonal f injections. SA good (7%morph). Next step: Chicago tests, Lapascopy (if poss) , sperm fragmentation test and then ivf i guess.

minipie - me 31, DH 32, ttc 11 months but only on 10th cycle due to longish cycles. PCOS diagnosed by scan. Blood tests normal except slight underactive thyroid (now corrected with thyroxine). BMI normal. DH's SA had low morphology (3%) but otherwise good. No other tests or treatments yet (except acu). First appointment with gynae on 21 March... BFP?

Mrsden - me 30, soon to be 31, DH 31. TTC for 21 months. PCOS but ovulating ok most months. DH very low count, poor morphology. Will start ICSI in summer.

ladygee ttc 15 months. Me 29, DH 32. DH SA is below average on all counts (don't remember all the stats). HSG showed blockage at the opening of my right tube. Self-funded cycle of IVF ICSI in Feb, ended with BFN. Awaiting follow-up appointment to talk through next steps. We are also on NHS waiting list for ICSI, probably at the end of 2012.



lemon - both 33, TTC 22 months, unexplained (after bloods, too much dildo camming, HSG and plenty of SAs - although those varied quite a bit), now onto second IUI

princess - me 30, OH 34. Accidentally updiffed in May 2009, MC at 6wks in June 2009. Decided that we wanted a baby, so continued trying until Oct 2009 when we got engaged and decided to give baby-making a break as I was finding it too draining and needed to take time out to deal with MC (and plan wedding). Started trying again in September 2010. Pg in April 2011 and MC in May 2011 at 7wks. Have been SWI like rabbits since then. Started blood tests in March 2012 following irregular mid-cycle bleeds, which have shown weird hormone levels - too much LH and not enough Prog. Scan yesterday to show lots of cysts on right ovary and a few on left. Follow up with GP next week to discuss scan, blood test results from earlier this week and next steps. Will be off to see a nutritional therapist next week to see if I can combat with diet and supplements. That makes TTC on and off for 25 months.

Critter 32, Mr Critter 33. TTC a year ? came off Yasmin in April 2011, periods never came back. Scan in November 2011 showed cysts on ovaries, blood tests all normal. Took progesterone to induce a period, followed by first round of 50mg Clomid in December 2011 ? no ovulation. Repeated progesterone followed by 100 mg Clomid in February 2012 ? no ovulation. Repeated progesterone followed by 150mg Clomid in April 2012 ? seems to be no ovulation, just waiting to make sure before going back to the doctor for a referral to a specialist.

euro - me 36, hubby 37, ttc 18 cycles with a couple of years of being casual before that, never seen a BFP but might have had a chem preg back in the casual period. My standard tests all fine. Some indication of PCOS but I'm ovulating regularly so it shouldn't be the problem. Hubby's tests also fine but on the low side of normal. Diagnosed as "unexplained". private immunology tests show high NK cells, but I have been on treatment for those for the past 5 cycles. Tried three cycles of superovulation (Letrozole). Currently on first attempt at IUI.

wine 35 (33 when started ttc) I am ovulating day 21prog 47 and regular 29 day cycles, DH latest SA 7% morphology with excellent count and motility. Previous SA 3% but count, motility were fine. Vits thought to have helped, consultant says no probs there. Failed HSG due to cervical blockage, lap and dye dec 2011 revealed large plum sized fibroid partially blocking cervix. Consequent u/s and MRI have revealed that the 'broid is an elusive bugger and mapping it out has been highly problematic. Consultant can't do myomectomy (fibroid removal) til he's confident of location so awaiting next lap and internal exam in two weeks. He doesn't think it renders me infertile as I'm still having periods and thus on paper we are unexplained . There are not a lot of cases like mine, assisted conception not possible yet due to blockage. In spite of all this I have not yet gone insane.

lisa me 39 DH 38, TTC #1 for 12 cycles, miscarriages in June @ 6 weeks and October @ 10 weeks, 2 x ERPC's with a perforated uterus. Diagnosed with High NK cells, Starting cycle 2 of Super Ovulation on 80mgs of Tamxifen, suspected thin lining due to scars, possibly requiring a Hysteroscopy. Possibly looking at IVF. Also having Acupuncture and taking a cocktail of drugs and supplements

ginsoaked ttc #1 21 months. Me 33, DH 33. DH has severe sperm issues - count of 3 million, poor motility and morphology. My tests all ok. No IVF funding in our area, so currently undergoing parent privately funded round of ICSI with Create in Wimbledon. Am stimming and about to start the antagonist. Eeek

Pout TTC #1 28 cycles-ish. Me 36, DH 41. Diagnosed with unexplained fertility following normal bloods, HSG, ultrasound and SA and discharged from clinic last year. Subsequently moved house to a new PCT and had new referral. Am waiting for a lap, another HSG and hysterogram (sp?) booked for beginning of May.

Artemis TTC #1 24 months. Me 38, DP 40. Early MC a year ago, referred for tests beginning of this year. Day 3 bloods normal, 7dpo bloods inconclusive, SA normal, no other investigations & no diagnosis yet. Prescribed 3 cycles of Clomid (currently at beginning of cycle 2), next option IVF.

Ah, I see that now! I missed myself in amongst all the numbers!

euro when are you testing?? :)

Hi all. Well I peed on a stick this morning and there was no hint of a second line :( The clinic's guidelines say its too early to test but I have a feeling this is a 'real' result. Some crying this morning, but feel better after chat with mrgin about what we do next and a lovely afternoon tea with friends. We have our official blood test on Monday.

Lots to catch up on! frannie at your 2ww obsessions. And sorry to hear about your and nellies über periods. Urgh, sounds nasty!

pout you have been keeping me amused with your pooch stories. Is big dog much bigger than little dog, or just older?!

kitty hope you are ok today. I'm sure random pains are fairly normal. Hugs.

joyce I second euros suggestion of the Languedoc for a break. My stepdad has a house out there and we just love it! Wine, cheese, sunshine and really old castles (for history geeks like me!). You can also do cycling and canoeing. In the uk, we had a lovely holiday in a cottage on a farm in Northumberland.

euro hope your 2ww is going ok. Are you on any meds?

princess hope you are feeling a bit better after your shock diagnosis. That diet sounds hardcore! Good luck!

lisa sorry about the 3am af stress. Hope you are feeling a bit better now.

critter your whippersnapper fashion choices sound v similar to mine! At uni I had those spice girl trainers and glitter hairsprays! At school I was all DMs and tie dye skirts... I'm sure in a few years I'll find my current skinny jeans hilarious too!

ladyg enjoy Scotland! Not sure I could manage a booze free family holiday!

lemons are you doing iui this month too?

artemis hope the tail feathers are all fine today! Have an image of you as a dita von teese type, with permanent feathers attached !

gameover so sorry to hear what you've been through and how rubbish your gp is. As others have said, do try another.

mrsd did you book a clinic appointment?

Waves to everyone I've missed. Hope you are all having good weekends. I'm looking forward to some serious trash tv tonight that mrgin will love Smash and The Voice!

gin it is too early to test, fingers crossed for Monday, I had late implantations with both my pregnancies and never got a bfp until 14dpo. Thank you for the info, I looked up the clinic on the hospital website, its about a grand cheaper. Something to consider.

Well AF started yesterday, quite heavy so I was pleased but now its non existent :( will have to wait for the follicle tracking scan

Morning all! I haven?t been checking this thread the last couple of days (we got the keys to our new home and were playing house, even though we're not moving in for weeks ) and I can?t believe how much I?ve missed! I shall try my best to catch up, but apologies in advance to those whom I will no doubt miss?

lisa hurray for heavy AF but boo to its disappearance (now there?s a sentence I wouldn?t expect to write)!

gin wishing you the best of luck for tomorrow?s blood test!

Sorry about the mega-periods, frannie and nelly. Mine has just started today and I?m trying not to feel down. It would have been nigh on miraculous to get a BFP this month, what with Mr B?s absence during my ?fertile? peak days, but apparently I still hid some hope away.

There have been some excellent ideas for your holiday joycep. Am very ! I was sorry to hear how low you?ve been feeling - but a trip away with your OH sounds just the thing.

Hi becks. Well done on organising your scan and PCT (what is that, by the way? ) Glad you?re feeling positive.

Hope the meeting with the headhunter went well, euro. Keeping everything crossed for you in your tww!

Glad to hear Big Dog is feeling better pout. Part of the attraction of moving to our new place was the thought that we could get a dog. Mr B is really keen on collies, so it?s good to hear you recommend them!

princess I am very impressed by your dairy-free diet of brown. I don?t think I could do it!

Artemis at the memory of plaid shirts and dm boots. My boots were never beaten-up enough for my liking. I tried to get my mum to run over them in the car, but she wouldn?t do it.

lady I hope you have a relaxing time in Scotland with the family.

Hi gameover and welcome. I am so sorry to hear about what happened to you when you were younger. As the others have said, your GP sounds shockingly bad and you must find another!

Hope everyone is having a good weekend. I?ve got a cold, on top of AF, so think it might be a duvet day for me . Now, if I can just work out how to do it, I?ll add my details to the list?

joycep - me, 32, DH 30. ttc 23 months (27/28 cycles). M/c @ 7 wks July 2010. Nothing since. Short LP of 10/11days (relevant? Who knows). Progesterone levels low [30]. Estrogen dominant, hypoglycaemia, Left ovary lazy but ovulate every month. HSG all clear. Low AMH for my age. Potassium levels low. Healthy BMI. 9 months of treatment including Clomid (messed me up), 2 x IUI, ovitrelle and gonal f injections. SA good (7%morph). Next step: Chicago tests, Lapascopy (if poss) , sperm fragmentation test and then ivf i guess.

minipie - me 31, DH 32, ttc 11 months but only on 10th cycle due to longish cycles. PCOS diagnosed by scan. Blood tests normal except slight underactive thyroid (now corrected with thyroxine). BMI normal. DH's SA had low morphology (3%) but otherwise good. No other tests or treatments yet (except acu). First appointment with gynae on 21 March... BFP?

Mrsden - me 30, soon to be 31, DH 31. TTC for 21 months. PCOS but ovulating ok most months. DH very low count, poor morphology. Will start ICSI in summer.

ladygee ttc 15 months. Me 29, DH 32. DH SA is below average on all counts (don't remember all the stats). HSG showed blockage at the opening of my right tube. Self-funded cycle of IVF ICSI in Feb, ended with BFN. Awaiting follow-up appointment to talk through next steps. We are also on NHS waiting list for ICSI, probably at the end of 2012.



lemon - both 33, TTC 22 months, unexplained (after bloods, too much dildo camming, HSG and plenty of SAs - although those varied quite a bit), now onto second IUI

princess - me 30, OH 34. Accidentally updiffed in May 2009, MC at 6wks in June 2009. Decided that we wanted a baby, so continued trying until Oct 2009 when we got engaged and decided to give baby-making a break as I was finding it too draining and needed to take time out to deal with MC (and plan wedding). Started trying again in September 2010. Pg in April 2011 and MC in May 2011 at 7wks. Have been SWI like rabbits since then. Started blood tests in March 2012 following irregular mid-cycle bleeds, which have shown weird hormone levels - too much LH and not enough Prog. Scan yesterday to show lots of cysts on right ovary and a few on left. Follow up with GP next week to discuss scan, blood test results from earlier this week and next steps. Will be off to see a nutritional therapist next week to see if I can combat with diet and supplements. That makes TTC on and off for 25 months.

Critter 32, Mr Critter 33. TTC a year ? came off Yasmin in April 2011, periods never came back. Scan in November 2011 showed cysts on ovaries, blood tests all normal. Took progesterone to induce a period, followed by first round of 50mg Clomid in December 2011 ? no ovulation. Repeated progesterone followed by 100 mg Clomid in February 2012 ? no ovulation. Repeated progesterone followed by 150mg Clomid in April 2012 ? seems to be no ovulation, just waiting to make sure before going back to the doctor for a referral to a specialist.

euro - me 36, hubby 37, ttc 18 cycles with a couple of years of being casual before that, never seen a BFP but might have had a chem preg back in the casual period. My standard tests all fine. Some indication of PCOS but I'm ovulating regularly so it shouldn't be the problem. Hubby's tests also fine but on the low side of normal. Diagnosed as "unexplained". private immunology tests show high NK cells, but I have been on treatment for those for the past 5 cycles. Tried three cycles of superovulation (Letrozole). Currently on first attempt at IUI.

wine 35 (33 when started ttc) I am ovulating day 21prog 47 and regular 29 day cycles, DH latest SA 7% morphology with excellent count and motility. Previous SA 3% but count, motility were fine. Vits thought to have helped, consultant says no probs there. Failed HSG due to cervical blockage, lap and dye dec 2011 revealed large plum sized fibroid partially blocking cervix. Consequent u/s and MRI have revealed that the 'broid is an elusive bugger and mapping it out has been highly problematic. Consultant can't do myomectomy (fibroid removal) til he's confident of location so awaiting next lap and internal exam in two weeks. He doesn't think it renders me infertile as I'm still having periods and thus on paper we are unexplained . There are not a lot of cases like mine, assisted conception not possible yet due to blockage. In spite of all this I have not yet gone insane.

lisa me 39 DH 38, TTC #1 for 12 cycles, miscarriages in June @ 6 weeks and October @ 10 weeks, 2 x ERPC's with a perforated uterus. Diagnosed with High NK cells, Starting cycle 2 of Super Ovulation on 80mgs of Tamxifen, suspected thin lining due to scars, possibly requiring a Hysteroscopy. Possibly looking at IVF. Also having Acupuncture and taking a cocktail of drugs and supplements

ginsoaked ttc #1 21 months. Me 33, DH 33. DH has severe sperm issues - count of 3 million, poor motility and morphology. My tests all ok. No IVF funding in our area, so currently undergoing parent privately funded round of ICSI with Create in Wimbledon. Am stimming and about to start the antagonist. Eeek

Pout TTC #1 28 cycles-ish. Me 36, DH 41. Diagnosed with unexplained fertility following normal bloods, HSG, ultrasound and SA and discharged from clinic last year. Subsequently moved house to a new PCT and had new referral. Am waiting for a lap, another HSG and hysterogram (sp?) booked for beginning of May.

Artemis TTC #1 24 months. Me 38, DP 40. Early MC a year ago, referred for tests beginning of this year. Day 3 bloods normal, 7dpo bloods inconclusive, SA normal, no other investigations & no diagnosis yet. Prescribed 3 cycles of Clomid (currently at beginning of cycle 2), next option IVF.

beryl TTC #1 12 months. Me 34, Mr Beryl 39. Early mc after 5 months of trying, nothing since. Short lp of 9/10 days. Waiting for results of blood tests and SA.

lisa I don't really like testing but will probably test Thursday/Friday just to see if I can stop the steroids (the only drugs I am on atm, Gin). AF is due next weekend.

I am not letting myself build my hopes up. IUI only has around a 10% success rate, so there is a 90% chance this won't work. Those are not good odds!

Gin I'm sorry to hear about the BFN. If that turns out to be accurate, what will you do next?

Sorry to hear about the AF arrivals.

Sorry about the BFN gin, fingers crossed it was too early. How much time post EC are you?

Can't remember who asked but we are doing another round of IUI this month, the joys of the stirrups await me tomorrow. And I am loony and hormonal (because it involves a trigger shot).

PS I am liking the updated list - even though it is depressing reading - because I was getting majorly confused about who was at what stage...

I have an assignment to do, so might be here again soon!

gin so sorry for your bfn, I hope you get a different result at the clinic. Hope you are ok.

beryl thanks for the cheerleading I had a bit more today so feeling a little happier

gin I really do hope its good news tomorrow for you

euro not overly keen on testing but I sometimes find for myself personally just to test and put myself out of my own misery. They told my boss that I cannot stomachthat I don't like much that she had a 5% chance of pregnancy working out, granted she gave birth at 26 weeks but her baby is a little fighter so 10% is still a chance :)

Well the ironing is just looking at me and sadly I can't just wriggle my nose and have it magically ironed so best to get on with it

Hope you all had some enjoyment this weekend

Hi beryl. PCT is a post coital test. They check your cervical mucus to see if it's stretchy and elastic and they see if your OH's sperm can survive in the mucus and if they can swim easily through it.
Has anyone else done this test? Does it hurt?

Gin, fingers crossed for your test tomorrow. Be great to have done good news.

Hope everyone has enjoyed their weekend. I've just worked 2 12.5 HR shifts and am ready for bed.

becks I have not heard of the test is this on the NHS?? my mucus has changed along with my period so i'll be keen to learn more, they are long shifts, makes me glad I have a day job now

Hi lisa,Yeah this is the NHS. It seems to all be part of the first batch of test. Bloods, smear, swabs, then the mid cycle scan and PCT at the same time. They've said if it look like my tubes are not blocked they will start me on clomid for my next cycle for up to 6 months/cycles. If they think the tubes might be blocked they will book me in for a lap & dye as the next step. They seem to be moving quite quickly as my first appointment with the consultant was 10/04/12.

Joycep - me, 32, DH 30. ttc 23 months (27/28 cycles). M/c @ 7 wks July 2010. Nothing since. Short LP of 10/11days (relevant? Who knows). Progesterone levels low [30]. Estrogen dominant, hypoglycaemia, Left ovary lazy but ovulate every month. HSG all clear. Low AMH for my age. Potassium levels low. Healthy BMI. 9 months of treatment including Clomid (messed me up), 2 x IUI, ovitrelle and gonal f injections. SA good (7%morph). Next step: Chicago tests, Lapascopy (if poss) , sperm fragmentation test and then ivf i guess.

minipie - me 31, DH 32, ttc 11 months but only on 10th cycle due to longish cycles. PCOS diagnosed by scan. Blood tests normal except slight underactive thyroid (now corrected with thyroxine). BMI normal. DH's SA had low morphology (3%) but otherwise good. No other tests or treatments yet (except acu). First appointment with gynae on 21 March... BFP?

Mrsden - me 30, soon to be 31, DH 31. TTC for 21 months. PCOS but ovulating ok most months. DH very low count, poor morphology. Will start ICSI in summer.

ladygee ttc 15 months. Me 29, DH 32. DH SA is below average on all counts (don't remember all the stats). HSG showed blockage at the opening of my right tube. Self-funded cycle of IVF ICSI in Feb, ended with BFN. Awaiting follow-up appointment to talk through next steps. We are also on NHS waiting list for ICSI, probably at the end of 2012.



lemon - both 33, TTC 22 months, unexplained (after bloods, too much dildo camming, HSG and plenty of SAs - although those varied quite a bit), now onto second IUI

princess - me 30, OH 34. Accidentally updiffed in May 2009, MC at 6wks in June 2009. Decided that we wanted a baby, so continued trying until Oct 2009 when we got engaged and decided to give baby-making a break as I was finding it too draining and needed to take time out to deal with MC (and plan wedding). Started trying again in September 2010. Pg in April 2011 and MC in May 2011 at 7wks. Have been SWI like rabbits since then. Started blood tests in March 2012 following irregular mid-cycle bleeds, which have shown weird hormone levels - too much LH and not enough Prog. Scan yesterday to show lots of cysts on right ovary and a few on left. Follow up with GP next week to discuss scan, blood test results from earlier this week and next steps. Will be off to see a nutritional therapist next week to see if I can combat with diet and supplements. That makes TTC on and off for 25 months.

Critter 32, Mr Critter 33. TTC a year ? came off Yasmin in April 2011, periods never came back. Scan in November 2011 showed cysts on ovaries, blood tests all normal. Took progesterone to induce a period, followed by first round of 50mg Clomid in December 2011 ? no ovulation. Repeated progesterone followed by 100 mg Clomid in February 2012 ? no ovulation. Repeated progesterone followed by 150mg Clomid in April 2012 ? seems to be no ovulation, just waiting to make sure before going back to the doctor for a referral to a specialist.

euro - me 36, hubby 37, ttc 18 cycles with a couple of years of being casual before that, never seen a BFP but might have had a chem preg back in the casual period. My standard tests all fine. Some indication of PCOS but I'm ovulating regularly so it shouldn't be the problem. Hubby's tests also fine but on the low side of normal. Diagnosed as "unexplained". private immunology tests show high NK cells, but I have been on treatment for those for the past 5 cycles. Tried three cycles of superovulation (Letrozole). Currently on first attempt at IUI.

wine 35 (33 when started ttc) I am ovulating day 21prog 47 and regular 29 day cycles, DH latest SA 7% morphology with excellent count and motility. Previous SA 3% but count, motility were fine. Vits thought to have helped, consultant says no probs there. Failed HSG due to cervical blockage, lap and dye dec 2011 revealed large plum sized fibroid partially blocking cervix. Consequent u/s and MRI have revealed that the 'broid is an elusive bugger and mapping it out has been highly problematic. Consultant can't do myomectomy (fibroid removal) til he's confident of location so awaiting next lap and internal exam in two weeks. He doesn't think it renders me infertile as I'm still having periods and thus on paper we are unexplained . There are not a lot of cases like mine, assisted conception not possible yet due to blockage. In spite of all this I have not yet gone insane.

lisa me 39 DH 38, TTC #1 for 12 cycles, miscarriages in June @ 6 weeks and October @ 10 weeks, 2 x ERPC's with a perforated uterus. Diagnosed with High NK cells, Starting cycle 2 of Super Ovulation on 80mgs of Tamxifen, suspected thin lining due to scars, possibly requiring a Hysteroscopy. Possibly looking at IVF. Also having Acupuncture and taking a cocktail of drugs and supplements

ginsoaked ttc #1 21 months. Me 33, DH 33. DH has severe sperm issues - count of 3 million, poor motility and morphology. My tests all ok. No IVF funding in our area, so currently undergoing parent privately funded round of ICSI with Create in Wimbledon. Am stimming and about to start the antagonist. Eeek

Pout TTC #1 28 cycles-ish. Me 36, DH 41. Diagnosed with unexplained fertility following normal bloods, HSG, ultrasound and SA and discharged from clinic last year. Subsequently moved house to a new PCT and had new referral. Am waiting for a lap, another HSG and hysterogram (sp?) booked for beginning of May.

Artemis TTC #1 24 months. Me 38, DP 40. Early MC a year ago, referred for tests beginning of this year. Day 3 bloods normal, 7dpo bloods inconclusive, SA normal, no other investigations & no diagnosis yet. Prescribed 3 cycles of Clomid (currently at beginning of cycle 2), next option IVF.

beryl TTC #1 12 months. Me 34, Mr Beryl 39. Early mc after 5 months of trying, nothing since. Short lp of 9/10 days. Waiting for results of blood tests and SA.

frannie TTC # 1 24 months. Me 35, DH 36. His SA normal. My hsg/ bloods all normal- prog slightly low. 35 day cycles and late ovulation. Starting unmedicated iui this cycle.

Evening all, managed to add myself in but debold all of your names. Not sure how I did that- so sorry. Am on iPhone and it's so fiddly! Does anyone know a way to fix without having to asterisk each one? I am a rubbish MNer- technologically and frequency of posts! Have been really busy with work this weekend so didn't get to catch up as hoped. Will try to in week. Just wanted to say hello to the newbies I hadnt met and also wish gin all the best for tomorrow. Hope you were testing too early and that tomorrow brings good news. I feel like you have had such a long 2ww- it must have been an eternity for you! I have my first iui scan tomorrow- AF just finished so unlikely to be much egg laying action!
Night all! X

frannie hope it goes well for you tomorrow

becks its good that they are getting on with things quickly :-)