Day 25 in the post-MC TTC house.....still no LH surge? Where are you, egg??

[DangerMousey]

I had an early miscarriage (5 wks + 5 days) which started 25 days ago. It was my first pregnancy and a happy surprise - the pg, obviously, not the MC. (I MC'd with no medical intervention, bled for 7 days, heavy, painful and small clots, but that was it).

So we really want to try again. I am counting today as CD25...have been peeing on the Ov sticks since day 10, but still not even an inkling of a positive result.

I am wondering what on earth the MC has done to my previously very regular 28 day cycle? Really want everything to be back to normal asap so we can start trying again.

Has anyone else experienced very late ovulation, after an early miscarriage? Even after day 25?

Is it common to not ovulate at all, in the first month after an early MC?

I know this probably makes me sound a bit mad, but I feel really desperate to ovulate again, so that I know everything's working down there. In bad weird moments, I feel worried that i might never ovulate again - i know there's no rational or medical basis for feeling like this, but I do anyway :(

Grateful for other people's stories...

Hi,

I'm so sorry to hear about your MC. I had an early MC in October so know how you feel. My first cycle afterwards was long and weird, period was very painful when it came at about cd45.

The doctor said to me to have a period before we started trying again. Basically, you can't count your MC as cd1 so you don't really know when it started.

Hope this makes sense.

Hi, thanks for replying. Really sorry to hear about your MC too.

Ok, that makes sense, I will just stop trying to think of this as a 'cycle' and wait until after my period to start tracking things properly.

After that first 45-day cycle you had, did you settle back into your normal rhythms, or are things still irregular/long?

Hiya, I mc at 8+0 and only just got a +ve on the ov stick at 27 days, thought I'd missed the boat! Sorry to hear about your mc - I know how you feel about being keen to get pg again ASAP. Don't they say we are particularly fertile at this time? That's what I'm pinning my hopes on, anyway.

Hi. Sorry to hear your sad news but a bit glad you've posted, as I also had a v early mc/chem pg recently & I'm at the same sort of stage, or rather, a few days earlier... I feel a bit of a fraud though, saying I had a mc, as I was only 4wk+1 & if I hadn't tested so bloody early & started getting my hopes up, when AF came on day 29 (slightly late but not weirdly so) I might not have been so disappointed!!!

Part of me thinks we should wait a cycle, part of me thinks my body is treating it like a weird AF (a lot heavier but shorter than normal, WTF??!!!) and gearing up to ov again soon-ish judging by CM signs etc. But most of me is desperate to get that BFP again, like NOW!!!

I'be been trying to avoid MN & the obsession but I feel like I might have to watch your thread with interest...

Fingers crossed everyone gets two lines on a stick soon!! :)

Hi sorry to hear about your mc. Had one in Sep was mmc due to progesterone few weeks missed cycle immediately normal and def ovulated seen on scan. MMC now day 21 CBM gives me eggs so week late you may not ovulate this month do not worry normal. Just have fun trying then start monitoring next month

Hey guys, thanks so much for your kind words and support. So sorry to hear about your MCs too.

ProjectG - your day 28 ov stick +ve result gives me hope that it might yet happen for me in the next couple of days! Fingers crossed. I am totally pinning my hopes on being super-fertile this month too - my miscarried pregnancy was a one-shot job: we went on honeymoon, decided to abandon the johnnies in a fit of romance after years of being very careful, and I got pg on the first few days of our trip! I am really hoping that cos I got pregnant so easily/acidentally that time, it will happen again soon. But i feel so upset about the MC and stressed about my cycle now, that I am sure I am doing my chances more harm than good :(

The only way I can describe it is: I feel like I was given a wonderful gift, and then had it snatched away after 9 days. Sounds so melodramatic when I type it out, but it's been such a rollercoaster few weeks, an no-one seems to understand why i amso desperate to recapture that amazing BFP feeling again as soon as possible.

ChunkyChicken - am glad you posted too! It's a weird one, having an early MC (or chemical PG isn't it) - in a way, I feel lucky that my body dealt with the situation so promptly, and I didnt need any medical treatment. But on the other hand, it's that completely wild rollercoaster of emotions that happens in such a short time: elation to despair in the course of a week - or 2 days, in your case :(

Fingers crossed we'll both see +ve on the ov test soon - and another BFP soon after that!! I have not got any EWCM yet though, so am keeping a close eye out for that too.

It's funny you should mention trying to avoid MN - i have been doing the same, not sure sometimes if it makes me feel better or worse :-/

Better today though, cos of all your reassuring posts, so thank-you!!

xx

DangerMousey lol at "one-shot job"

I was all over MN during a few years ago when everything with my first pg was hunky dory. I wondered if I should dive back in now that the situation is very different, and in fact the first person to reply to my first post here really threw me by her abrupt response . So I'm glad I've found some more like-minded ladies on this thread where we can be honest about how we are feeling, however random, mad, irrational, obsessed or disappointed that may be. And if your DH and friends are anything like mine then they?re supportive to a point but if they haven?t gone through the same they just DON?T understand the need to talk about it. A lot.

I hope we all get the BFPs we are longing for. I feel like if I do get it this month then it will almost be 'compensation' for the mc, and will fill the void, IYSWIM.

I totally know what you mean: although I have been trying to keep my expectations low (I have read lots of older threads and posts on here from very wise ladies saying that it might not happen for a couple of months, your body is still recovering etc etc), I cannot help but hope that we will be one of the lucky ones who get PG again straight away. It would definitely help to 'fill the void.'

And I know what you mean about wanting/needing to talk about it all the time. Just last night in bed, after a normal quiet evening where I hadn't mentioned either the MC or TTC, I rolled over and said to DH: "you know -i think about the miscarriage lots of times during the day", and I do. I have a very busy,sometimes stressful job, and I am finding at the moment that I spend a fair bit of time staring out the window thinking about what happened. And wondering when the hell I'm going to ovulate again! I suppose that's normal too.

And hmmm....I can see why that rather abrupt post ruffled your feathers. I abolsutely sympathise with your anger/annoyance at the man flu episode. At the moment I am feeling totally obsessed with conceiving again, to the point where I am berating the poor DH about a number of nice sporty weekends aways he has planned with the boys in the spring and early summer. Ie) "you can't go mountain climbing in scotland for 3 days in May - what if that's the days I'm ovulating! You need to stay here and impregnate me!".

Unreasonable? Undoubtedly. But i cannot apologise for suddenly becoming totally driven by the same animal instinct that makes salmon spend all their time trying to jump upstream, and turtles swim thousands of dangerous miles to lay an egg on one beach. I am a deranged turtle

Hello ladies, i had a mmc at 20 weeks last month so i understand how heartbreaking it is. Just wanted to tell you that i have been given lots of good advice and help on another thread if you want to have a look there also

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1401274-Just-MC-and-ready-to-try-again-Pregnant-after-MC-and-seeking-somewhere-safe-to-hide-Come-on-down-to-the-shiny-new-baby-friendly-MOSH-PIT

I hope i got that link to work ok!

I'm desperate to have another baby and its an obsession. I can't help spending far too much time thinking about it/on MN then feeling guilty that DD is being ignored!!! I totally get the compensation idea too - I was only pregnant for 6 days so it seems so stupid to get worked up about it, but I am SO disappointed. I won't be testing early again, that's for sure!!

It does, and yet it doesn't, help to know that if we DTD on cd14 we get a BFP iyswim. Worked for DD & this cycle; cycle before, no SWI on cd 14 & no BFP. Just need a sticky one this time. Oh and ov to happen at the same time obviously...

Also, I had the dates all sorted out in my head & it would have been an age gap of precisely 2.5yrs & I loved the symmetry of it all, for want of a better word. Now, that won't happen & I can't help feeling its terrible!! I mean, logically, what diff does it really make? Afterall, babies come early or late anyway & what does it matter if the gap is 2yrs 7+ months, 3yrs or what??!!!!!

Love the 'deranged turtle' description Danger I totally concur.

I fully endorse WhyAlwaysBoris's link (thanks!) and I've taken much comfort from it today. The virtual vino helped too.

DangerMousey I get the impression we are the newbies in this rather unappealing game of waiting and disappointment. The other ladies here seem so wise and supportive, I feel like I'm only just starting to learn all the things they've sadly been through already . Let's just hope... as they all probably did... that we'll be the exceptions. And if not, then these threads are a cosy comfort blanket.

Totally LOL'd at your deranged turtle analogy! You're quite right about the animal instincts, I hadn't even thought of it like that. I bet the male salmon don't get man flu, though.

Thanks Boris - will get busy reading that instead of working! What the hell, it's nearly knocking off time anyway :)

OMG Chunky the timing of it all is doing my head in, too. I loved the fact I was early pg in Jan when I could easily hide it and not have to tell anyone til I got the all-clear at the scan today. Also, there was half a chance this baby would be born 3 academic years below DD (due date 31 Aug, eek!) whereas if/when I get pg again it will definitely be 4 academic years which wasn't ever the plan. ("The Plan", ha!). Plus I liked the idea of having another summer (just about) baby and being able to wear all my maternity clothes again as they'd be for the right season. Yes. I am totally looking for woe-is-me reasons.

Yes projectGm this is all very new to me...cos I got pregnant whilst not really trying (just being happily careless - ie not taking and condoms on holiday!), this is my first time using the ov sticks. You're right, think we're going through lots of feelings that prob sound v familar - for example, to the women on Boris's thread.

I think perhaps it was an error to buy the ov sticks, and should have just waited until after AF....am now spending LOADS of money to pee on a stick every day, when my cycle's obviously completely screwed up! Before the MC, I used to get EWCM every month on about day 13, so reckon I was probably ovulating on about day 14 every month. Now, post MC i am on "cd26" (IF the first day of my MC was even day 1, who knows!), no EWCM, and no little pink +ve on the ov sticks!

Chunkychicken - glad you're sharing my obsessive deranged turtleyness! That is a shame about the symmetry, but like you say, babies can come late or early anyway, so it would likely have changed anyway. I guess we should take some kind of heart frmo the fact we can all conceive, and it's just a matter of doing it again, and getting one that sticks next time :)

Will be crossing my fingers for all of you :)

Hi I MC at 10 weeks, 18 days ago. Dr told me I might OV fourteen days later, but only just got a BFN on a test today so not hopeful yet. Did buy a lot of cheap ov tests today, but thought might give it another week. Feel very new at this as concieved dd 'magically' while using protection, and the little bean we just lost was first month lucky. Also feeling quite sad not to have my summer baby this year :( Feeling eager to hop back on though

hey threefortea, so sorry to hear about your MC. I have done a lot of reading about ovulation post-mc in the last few weeks, and I think that if it takes a while for you to get a BFN, it delays the restart of your cycle - so it may be quite hard to tell when you're going to ovulate in the next month or so.

I am now on day 28 since my MC began and still no sign of a +ve on the ov tests, and have been testing everyday since day 10 :(

Kinda wish I hadn't started testing now - but feel compelled to carry on and it's costing a fortune! Am sure that the minute I stop, I will probably get an LH surge and miss it...! Though I am beginning to suspect that I might not ovulate at all this month, if it doesn't happen in the next couple of days.

It's my 30th birthday tomorrow and should be feeling really happy and excited, but instead just feel really sad and low, and desperately wish my cycle would just hurry the f* up and get back to normal so we can start SWI again...

Three & Danger I totally understand the urge to get going again, cos I'm there now & I'm also starting with the OPKs this month, cd10 started & now on cd12, in the hope that I can pinpoint ov more accurately.

Three I think DangerMousey is right about a delayed BFN meaning a delayed ov unfortunately.

DangerMousey try to enjoy your birthday. I was preggo when I was 30 & couldn't really enjoy myself properly (esp as only about 6wks so couldn't make it public etc.) Although I understand the urge to TTC/want to be preg 100%, perhaps its a good opportunity to kick back, forget about TTC, drink, laugh & be merry? One weekend of silliness won't hurt & you might find you feel a bit more relaxed & ready for the TTC challenge. I know its hard but equally, you're only turning 30 once, its a lovely age to be & the baby will come in time. Happy birthday for tomorrow x

Chunky - thanks hon, did have a good birthday in the end. Perhaps let my hair down a bit TOO much, have dreadful hangover today. But was nice to let loose a bit and forget about everything PG/MC/TTC related for a few hours at least :)

In other news - i got my period yesterday (what a birthday present...!). Exactly 4 weeks after my miscarriage began. So it looks like my cycle might be back to normal ish straight away. I don't think I ovulated at all this month though - had been testing every day from day 10 up until yesterday when AF arrived, and not one single +ve result!

I am kinda glad to see AF though, as it means we can properly start trying again in 10 days time, and hopefully will see a normal result on the ov tests this month as well - fingers crossed for a BBFP sometime soon :)

d x

Sorry to hear AF got you but you're right, at least you know that your cycle is back to normal Danger. Good luck for this month :)

Hello all if you're still reading this thread. DangerMousey glad you had a great 30th birthday and hope you feel suitably cheered up from what sounds like a fun night!

Amazingly I got a BFP last week at 16 dpo. Can't believe it. I know the (3) dates we DTD so that's the only way I can work out an approximate due date but feel like I've been cheated out of a week because if dates were being worked out by LMP I'd probably be a week ahead, IYSWIM?

Hard to get excited after the disappointment of last time, though, so it doesn't feel real yet.

Congratulations projectg that's fantastic. Fingers crossed. I know that if when I get another BFP I think I'll be nervous for weeks, prob until I can feel them kicking, & even beyond... once bitten twice shy.

I got a +ve OPK on 'cd15' so that was really encouraging & we DTD around them, but not feeling confident that it will be sufficient iyswim. Who knows though huh?

aaaaaah, yay, projectg so happy for you!! What awesome news!! I can only imagine how nervous you must be. I know I'd be the same - superstitiously, once I'd got past the time of my MC, i think i would feel a bit better, iyswim?

I am currently on CD10 having had a relatively normal period post-MC which lasted from CD1 - CD6. So I have started peeing on the ov sticks today, and am hoping for a surge sometime later this week....hopefully everything will be back to normal this month and I will see that green light pink line (well, smiley face - have splashed out on the CB digital sticks!), and get SWI soon.

Chunky - fingers crossed for you too, sounds like you DTD around the right time, so now just the 2WW.....xx

Just a brief update. POAS earlier and it was a faint positive. Think I'm only 12dpo but I couldn't resist as I'd been feeling faint & sick, & wanted to rule it out, as it were, so I could have a 'virus' & expect AF on Tues or thereabouts.

Keeping my fingers v v tightly crossed and hoping Tues (& beyond) passes without a hitch. Torn between being excited & happy, and expecting it to go wrong. I'm sure I'll relax as time goes on... fingers crossed huh?

Wahey Chunky that's fab news! I do believe a faint positive qualifies as a BFP so buckle up for the bumpy ride ahead! (pun intended) I'm currently assuming the brace position ready to crash at any moment - so hard to believe it's happening this quickly after mc. I know I said I wanted it so badly to 'fill the void' so to speak, but now said void has been apparently filled it doesn't actually feel real. Lack of symptoms probably not helping. Saw doc last week who was unable to formally 'date' me so I'm just going by ov and DTD dates to estimate I'm 5+4.... argh why must it go so slooooowly?

Thanks Danger for your kind words. You this month! . Hope POAS gets you an ov line this time now you're beyond the WTF cycle.

Thanks projectg have 1 more day to go before I think I'll feel a bit more 'in the clear' but looking forward to the ride!!! You're right, it seems to go so slowly & I thought the 2WW was bad enough.

Hope things are going well DangerMousey and you will have a positive month