TTC for 10+ months, part 4

[eurochick]

Time for a new thread as the other one is just about full.

Fingers crossed for lots of patiently-awaited BFPs on this one!

wine Hope that you are less dizzy today. I suppose that your body is still getting over the shock so that might explain why you feel that way. Maybe the blood loss too. I'm glad that you are working from home and taking it easy. You need to look after yourself
Thanks for the PM offer, not many people understand how shite dealing with an alcoholic is. All I keep hearing from people is how she is going through a tough time and how it's not surprising that she needs a drink. The trouble is there is a difference between a drink or two and drinking solidly without eating or washing and making a tit of herself by phoning everyone in her contact book sobbing because she is pissed or running out to two police officers who turned up on her street to ask them if they were going to arrest her.......gah! Think that I am running the risk of outing myself on here too because surely not many other people have such a demented mum!!!!!

Euro You must be pretty frustrated by the mixed signals your body is giving out this cycle. What has your gynae suggested if anything?

Gin sympathies for epic AF. I hope that the pain passes soon. Have you tried taking the efferverscent Solpadeine and Ibubrofen combo? I haven't made the EWCM and heavy period connection but will look out for it next time.
I'm sorry to hear that you too have a difficult parent. I'm trying to distance myself a bit but it's so difficult because she manages to alienate everybody and so leans on me quite a bit and I end up feeling guilty and cave in to the endless phonecalls and visits.

Nelly how long so you get ovulation pain for? I agree that a BFP would so ruin a beach honeymoon

kitty Agree that my Mum's GP was total shite. He almost made me feel like I was overreacting.
Glad that you are feeling optimistic for 2012. This has to be the year we all get our BFPs surely.

Joycep Sorry that you had a baby news filled Christmas. Great timing! Also sorry that you started New Year with thrush. We also started NY's day with not overly great portents....flooded sink, blocked up toilet and smoke alarm continually going off until DP despatched it with the broom
I am horrifed by how crap your gynae was. Her last comment about the 97% left me dumbstuck. What an insensitive thing to have said - like it does you any good to hear about all the other people she's helped.

mrsd I agree that this is a lonely boat to be in. I've said it before but it feels like being excluded from some club that everyone else can join so easily.

stasi your present sounds amazing and what a lovely idea about practising so you can take really good baby photos.

Had my GP appointment this morning and ended up crying all over the doctor like some prized pillock. I also cried all the way home so now people will think that the new neighbour is a lunatic Not overly happy with how it went. She didn't have my old notes so couldn't see what my old GP had written about the lap referral. She doesn't think it sounds like endo which I'm not happy about because I have done loads of research and have many of the symptoms. She didn't seem to have much knowledge about it at all (looked positively confused when I mentioned the frequent passing of water and hip pain) and said that it sounds like I have a thyroid problem. I explained that I have been tested for this but her answer was that things can change???? Anyway she is sending me for more of the same blood tests and another ultrasound. I said that endo isn't picked up on ultrasounds and had to explain how the only way is a lap to which I was advised that if she refers me for a lap the referral will be rejected?????? By this point I was crying and couldn't compose myself enough to have a sensible conversation. I am totally at a loss now and feel so despondent that if I can't even get passed the first hurdle of the GP then what the hell do I do now. Spoke briefly to DP about having a private consultation with an endo specialist but suspect the cost will be prohibitive especially if treatment is needed. Will speak to him again tonight and look into how you go about selling a kidney

pout I am sorry to hear about your experience with your new GP. That sounds awful. Can you see someone else? It is so dispiriting that on the NHS you have to push push push just to get the tests you need. Did she say why a referral for a lap would be rejected? Will she refer you to a gynae once you have had the blood tests and u/s?

I had a big temp jump this morning (at 5dpo according to futility friend) so I am now comfortable that I have ovulated this cycle, just later than I have ever ovulated before. I haven't spoken to the gynae yet. I was planning to when I thought it was an anovulatory cycle because I wasn't sure how to proceed next cycle but as I appear to have ovulated I don't need to. I already have a prescription for next month's Letrozole and will see him for a mid-cycle scan to time my trigger shot.

stasi good luck with the health kick! I also have a dSLR. I've had it a couple of years and love some of the photos I have taken with it. On honeymoon, I got some great pics of distant monkeys and crocs with a mega zoom lens! It can become an expensive hobby though. The lens that comes with most entry level SLRs is pretty rubbish, so you will probably end up buying other lenses and good ones are spenny. My megazoom was 400 quid or so I think. I don't use mine as much as I should so I have decided this year to do Project 365 to improve my skills (and give me something to think about on a daily basis other than ttc). It involves taking a photo every day. It's hard on work days but it does make you look around you at the stuff you see every day without actually seeing it, iyswim, when you are looking for potential subjects! I hope I can keep it up. Do you fancy doing it to get some practice in with your new camera? If so, i will PM you my project 365 details and we can view one another's pics.

Gin sorry you are having an evil AF.

Ooh funny on all the DSLR chat. I got one a couple of years ago and this Christmas one of my presents was a series of books on Digital photography, so I too have promised myself to learn how to use it better!

Firstly joycep your gynae's comment made me spit out my tea - and not in a funny way. What on EARTH was she thinking, saying that to you? I'm just appalled. . I'm not sure I'd have paid - I love a good fight . What a witch.

pout so sorry the new GP appointment didn't go so well. My advice (see comment above) would be to phone the surgery and ask them how you go about making a complaint about the service/treatment you received from the GP . Well perhaps not, but I'd make another appointment, as soon as you can, to the same GP and say something along the lines of "now that I'm more composed, I wanted to come back to say I was disappointed you didn't listen to my opinions sufficiently, and I believe the advice and course of investigations you have suggested are inappropriate. I want to know what my next course of action should be ". Don't be palmed off - be a pain in the ass and keep going back for appointments until she agrees just to get you to piss off out of her waiting room . I am sure others are more knowledgeable on what a normal course of action should be - surely you just need a referral from a GP to a gynae specialist (perhaps not even for anything as specific as a Lap at that stage?) and at which point you are into the system and out of the hands of a slightly ignorant GP?

Talking of which you have reminded me I hadn't got my final test result back (a vaginal swab to test for Chlamydia, yumm!) so just called and that was normal. So - all normal. Spoke to secretary and she said we now both need to come in to make an appointment with doctor again as to next steps. Scary stuff....but also strangely exciting, is that weird?

I also think my friends are a mostly fertile bunch. Well that said, my sister had to do IVF (worked first time but EMC, worked second time, didn't work 3rd time - they won't try again). Another 2 friends I know of were both definitely IVF, plus the colleague at work. One I know took a few months. But I know plenty of people who got pregnant in the first month, more than once.

Sorry Christmas/NY was hard for some of you. We started trying just after my birthday (the one before last ) so the end of the year was less of a reminder in that sense. But especially Hogmanay is such a reflective time, it's hard not to wallow a little, and wonder what might have been. But this is going to be our year - so many positive steps being taken all round.

Going to post this before I lose it but will go back and read the previous page next!

Thanks Far and Stasi Heres hoping!

I wrote a long post and now its gone into cyber space :(

Pout Your Dr didn't handle that very well. Perhaps when she has your old notes and sent you for some tests herself she may head in the direction you want her to. Some Drs seem to like to start from scratch even when other Drs have done everything already.

Has anyone watched 'One born every minute' on Channel4 I was going to watch it last night the positive curious side of me thought it was a good idea cause that will be me one day and the other part of me said maybe not a good idea As it was I was at work and couldn't record it.

Hi to everyone else hope your ok.

Just read Nelly's post. Push for the referral to gynae. Let them decide what you need.

stasi I'm the same, don't go on the laptop much at weekends/holidays but I do in the evenings after work. I'm working from home today though . Hope the health kick is going well. I'm on more of a financial health kick. Urgh.

Don't worry mrsden I am sure none of us thought "monster". I could say the same about my SiL. She's lovely really, just a bit self-centred, and a bit blind to what is going on around her. I also have a confession to make. Several years ago, when my sister told me they were TTC and failing, I told her to "have more sex" . I honestly knew nothing about the process, had no idea whatsoever that there was such a plethora of things that could be wrong, or that it could just not work for no obvious reason at all. I'm sure she has forgiven me for such a heartless comment - she must have, as she asked me to be the named guardian for her son in her will :) (but also obviously, as I never want that to have to happen!!). Anyway bit waffly but I think we all understand that mostly these comments are not meant cruelly, they are just thoughtless. With the exception of medical professionals, or anyone else who really should know better/knows you are having problems.

Good luck cakes for the HSG, when is it again? Sorry if you said above!

kitty what is 101 cookbooks? I nearly have that many on my shelves, does that count .

To everyone who keeps making this face>>>> at my "I don't want to be heavily pregnant at my wedding" comment. No really. I don't. I really really really want to laze about not feeling sick/too fat to fly/tiny baby to feed and no sleep. So absolutely no pregnancy for the next few months - say July at the earliest? Do you hear me??? Got that Mr pregnancy god??

Hi Nelly
HSG is on Monday.
Fate can be a little peculiar. It likes doing things when you don't want it to and not when you do. Its possibly the 'mind on something else theory' it goes with the 'new house new baby theory' whereby time is taken up with something else...

My mum said that I would probably be 'in your face' when I finally got pregnant, but I'd like to think I would be a little more sensitive just in case the people around me are struggling.

Hello Girls,

Happy NY!!!

Sorry i've been awol for such a long time!
How are we all? hope you are all well, had lovely Christmases.

m now waiting patiently for AF which should arrive on the 10th and then I'll be starting my monitoring phase.

I finally told my parents over the Xmas hols that we are going to be doing IVF this year and they were very excited, my mum is desperate to be a grandma and you'd think I was already pregnant the way she was carrying on, I did have to tell her not to get too excited as it's not anywhere near 100%...

Oh and the couple we made friends with on honeymoon are pregnant, first time i've heard preggers news and it's hurt in awhile :( Mind you, watched oneborneveryminute last night... and now i'm not so sure I want a baby! ha! xx

pout - I?m enraged by your gp and upset for you as well. Can you get your notes from your previous GP over to this new one? In fact i think you should call up your old one and say you are having this problem and perhaps she can write a note advising them that you need a lap. Or can?t they do that? It is absolutely pointless them sending you for yet more of the same blood tests. Sorry I get so cross on everyone?s behalf on here (not that it helps anyone at all) because many of us keep having the same old stories. And GPs aren?t specifically trained in Fertility so to start telling you that your pains in your hips and your ibs is all down to thyroid issues beggars belief.
Anyway I have been rude about my gynae and I shouldn?t be because the 4 people I heard of who went to her got pregnant pretty quickly. In fact i told someone on MN about her just before I went and she got pregnant in 2 cycles. Obviously I?m just a bitter old cow now and of course if she had of got me pregnant , i would have sung her praises. I?m just furious because she promised me in April last year that she would have me pregnant by October and definitely pregnant by Xmas and I don?t think she should promise things like that. My twisted, cynical feeling about that promise is that she does it for business reasons and i do feel like i have been financially raped. I so feel for you about your mum. It?s so hard on you and your siblings. My good friend has the same problem with her mum. She was called up by her mother?s neighbour once to be told her mum was in the garden, naked , screaming and holding a bottle of gin. I can?t imagine what that is like. Anyway, i hope you feel you can offload here. The chances of outing ourselves must be very slim considering all our friends (apart from Euro) are super fertile and probably wouldn?t find themselves here!

euro88 are you on the steroids yet? Anyway, i?m glad you have ovulated. I always breathe a sigh of a relief when i know i have.

stasi - how was your check up back before xmas? SLR cameras are great. I am a keen photographer as well and the big lenses are amazing. There is nothing more satisfying than getting great shots. I was given an a3 printer for Christmas which has made a huge difference to the quality of pics. Euro is right though, it can be an expensive hobby!

mrsd - you do seem to have the most super fertile friends. Are most of your friends young?? And when i say young i mean around 30. Ah yes ivf buddies! I have been thinking about ivf and i realise if i did do it over the summer then that is only 6 periods away. I got quite scared at that thought and have tried to talk myself out of it. But then again, my 2 years of trying is up on May 1st and so add in a few more months for good measure and quite frankly something should have happened. The trouble is there doesn?t seem to be an explanation and it did happen before so i think that?s why i?m getting a bit twitchy. I have heard of the odd story of someone taking a couple of years to get pregnant naturally with no assistance so i keep going through phases of thinking it will happen again except on those mega down days. I would like to get my immunes tested before i do ivf as i do wonder why i never get colds and I haven?t been ill for years. Anyway, but yes let?s be ivf buds!
Also I haven?t had a lap so may be something is lurking down there. wine - did you have any symptoms at all that there was something not right inside?

nelly - pleased you are Chlamydia free, that?s a relief!

karbea - that?s nice your ma is excited about ivf. I dread that conversation with mine. Even though she is desperate to be a grandmother, she will be highly disapproving of that route especially when she hears of the cost.

A friend (not close) who has always been so perfect in every way and I just thought bloody typical when she conceived straight away has the most dreadful post natal depression. It?s when I hear the odd bad story that makes me think that actually i?m quite pleased i don?t have a child. She was so desperate for a baby as well but she just can?t bond with her daughter. I wonder whether PND puts you off having more children.

Hi Karbea glad youre ok, sorry about preg announcement blues. But you have a plan and may not be too far behind!

nelly I think it's so good you have a baby fate tempting plan to keep you busy. 101 cookbooks is an ace website with pretty food. Yum. Have a look, if you like cooking you'll love it. I am a cookbook fiend too. I got 6 more this christmas and we need another shelf now.

kitty the brown butter tortellini is AMAZING. Is it wrong that I wonder why she doesn't have babies I meant to say, I had the doom feeling right after my first period after ttc, like I knew it wasn't going to be easy. I'm sure I would have forgotten it if it had all worked out. My friend took four cycles and she had it and wept gallons each (of the three) times it didn't work. I waver from thinking oh my god I'm sterile to, it will happen in the end - about 100 times a day?

Stasi I hope you get an ironic bfp. And camera will provide good distraction. I'm also doing the 365 project euro but as a diary keeping exercise on my iPhone. I get an alert very day to remind me. My dads a photographer and sadly, rather than having the effect of making me a super duper photographer it had the opposite effect of turning me right off because I was apparently always doing it wrong my brother got more lucky. Maybe I am just rubbish! So I just stick to phone cameras and instagram which I love. I'd like a Polaroid now they are all available again. And I'm glad you did ovulate. Isn't it all a big old ballache. Maybe a trigger shot this month will sort things out? Or maybe you caught a lovely fat, primed up egg.

mrsden I reckon it is one I'm six. I think older women (meant delicately) might skew it a bit perhaps?On the surface, I'm unlucky in that nearly all of my friends and family have been (I think) speedy up duffers. But, in my wider network of work and so forth, since I've been on hyper alert I have discovered:

One couple who are adopting, I know no more detail and daren't ask.
One couple who made out they didn't want a family but were actually having ivf, got lucky 2nd time.
Numerous people who took 1-3 years to get there naturally. At least 10 people.
On bf who has been at it 10 months
Friend of dh, 4 years, pregnant after fibroids removed (I like this one)
One after 10 years after fibroid removal (friend of mum) 10 years!
Friend of friend currently on ivf no 2.

They are out there. But sadly invisible. You will get there.

And what bollocks from your gynae joycep, she can't possibly have that success rate or shed be world famous! And what a nobhead thing to say to you. I'm having the broid removed as soon as i get to see my consultant and ready to go after scans etc. Prob march? It's like a c section op I think. Minus a baby!

pout your gp is pants and I've discovered most gps are a bit vague regarding fertility. I think with this, you need to make a right pain of yourself to get anywhere. I did! I found that taking mr wine seemed to add gravity. Just because you've moved shouldnt delay things that much. And you clearly know more about it. Im glad i had a lap. But I'm still mad with the scanner that said I had an excellent womb. And hug about your mum. Watching someone in the midst if addiction is a hard and scary thing. And you feel powerless i think. And kind of miss the person? But it will reach a point where things have to shift.

Oo, I'm going to yoga now for recovery poses. Waves to anyone missed.

Ps, against all plans i watched obem cakes. It was like whipping myself. Will I ever learn.

Have to admit I can't watch one born every min since ttc. End up sobbing and insanely jealous! Not a good combo...

joy I cannot believe those were your gynae's final words to you. What a cow! I take it you won't be seeing her for the ivf??

pout can't believe your gp either! Am on both yours and joy's behalves. Can you see another gp? The gp we saw having had mr gin's SA results was pretty useless - told us very few couples need ivf & it'd be unlikely we'd need it, yet I knew from my googling with those results there's no other option (as confirmed later by the urologist). FFS, if I can work that out from 20 mins googling, surely she should know that! Don't feel pressurised to go private. You are entitled to these tests. These doctors are meant to help not make us feel worse.

Sorry, rant over! Pmt, moi?!

wine the 101 cook books website sounds ace. I will have to have look. And now I want a slr camera tooooo. And euro I want some of your infertile friends! Don't have any close friends who've been through ivf.

Just re-read my post which really is a bit ranty- sorry! Just shocked and saddened at how poorly infertility is treated by the medical profession. It all seems such a lottery... And I've just got home and discovered our fence has blown down, so the ranting will continue!

pout I agree with pushing for Gynae referral rather than a specific procedure. I work for NHS and get quite upset when parents bring their child to appt and say they tried to get a referral a long time ago but GP said not to worry. I wonder if some GPs think referrals are too much hard work!? What will it be like when they control to budgets?

I also fibbed to my GP about how long we had been trying - I was nearly 35 so didn't want to be fobbed off so said it had been 12 months when it had been closer to 10 months. It took over 6 months to have various tests (to find nothing) and I just wanted to be in the system.

My news is I saw my GP - who took another pregnancy test (nerve racking!) and all ok so referred me on to midwives.

Fingers crossed for many more BFPs - I'll be looking out for them!

I had typed a super long post but managed to lose it!

Hi everyone. Will try and namecheck in this post as i have finally got my laptop fixed and i can type without the damn cursor jumping back and meaning i type over my original writing OR delete all that i've wrote already!

City So pleased that everything is going well for you and baby, nice to hear from you.

Gin Don't apologise for ranting, thats what we are here for! I on the otherhand love one born, maybe its cos it brings back nice memories?!

Wine you do seem to have consulted a wide network in your ttc investigations! It just shows that a LOT of people have problems, it maybe just isnt talked about so much. Ive said before that my friend was ttc for a min of 5 years before she fell pregnant, she had quite severe endo that they had troed to zap but was too extensive and her only hope was ivf (or so she was told) she fell pregnant waiting!

Joycep what you were saying re PND struck a cord with me. As most of you know i had a baby 2 years ago and i think ive said before i out on 4.5 stone after she was born due to drugs. The reason for the drugs was i developed puerpural psychosis and had to be sectioned under the mental health act for 4 weeks. Very scary but i recovered, only problem was i went on to develop PND on top of that! All in all not a great experience HOWEVER it hasnt put me off having another child, although the risk of it reoccuring post partum is greater than 50% for me!

Nelly I totally understand that you dont want to be pregnant at your wedding, so heres hoping the gods listen and when you fall pregnant its on your timing!

Hello to everyone else!

As for me im cd 10 and showing HIGH on monitor so hopefully i am in for a more normal cycle instead of 29day with a 5 day LP! We have infertility clinic on the 20th to see about starting clomid, clearly we have had no BFP with the metfromin!

how exciting citysnow, does it feel real now? I hope you're keeping well.

pout I'm sorry you didn't have a good experience with the new GP. Can you see someone else at the surgery? Did she know how long you'd been ttc for? I would have thought that you should get referred back to a fertility specialist for that alone, nevermind the endo. But I don't understand how things work and it does seem that it's such a lottery depending on who your GP is. One thing I would say though is this is too important to let go and if I were you I would be back to the GP after all the blood tests and scan and demand a referral (easier said than done I know, I become such a kitten when facing doctors).

euro our friends combined probably make the stats work. It must be nice to have friends who understand, I wish there was someone in RL I could talk to sometimes.

stasi I like the sound of your keeping mind off ttc plans. We go skiing soon and I'm also planning another break for March. I have also been thinking about joining a cookery class, there is one a colleague recommended about local and regional cooking. I think this would be great because I have access to so much fresh fish and vegetables and I don't really know what to do with them so I tend to stick to British recipes and I'd like to be more adventurous.

karbea how exciting that you are getting so close to ivf and lovely that your mum is excited.

joycep my friends are all aged 28-32 so youngish I guess. This is also why I very much doubt that the ones that are pregnant or have children had any difficulty because none of them have been married very long and I wouldn't have thought there has been time for them to try for a couple of years and then need ivf. So, all straightforward natural conceptions I'm guessing. But wine I'm sure you're right and there are people out there, but like me they are keeping quiet about it.

eggnog Did your sister have unexplained? Do you think there is some genetic link thing? Or just coincidence?

I had a dream last night that I was pregnant with twins. It was quite a nice dream actually and didn't end in tragedy like most of my ttc related dreams seem to do. Does anyone else find that they have really vivid dreams in the 2ww?

snow - that's great news that all is well and you've been referred to the midwifery team, exciting!

farfalla and cupcakes - how rude of me, don't think I've officially said hello yet! Welcome to this lovely thread.

pout - I'm a little late to say but I'm so sorry about your mum, it must be so tough for you and to see her like that. I can't offer advice, only sympathy. Sorry that your new GP is particularly crap - like others have said, don't give up. Make another appt once you know they have your notes and take it from there. Easy for me to say but I always turn into an incoherent wreck in front of anyone vaguely clinical. Wish I had some of nelly's fight in me!

cakes - good luck with the HSG.

gin - hope you're feeling better after what sounds like a particularly nasty AF arrival. I've noticed a couple of times that the months I have more EWCM do seem heavier and more painful too.

mrsd - sorry about the horrid time with your Mil, you didn't paint her as a monster. I know what you mean about feeling positive about 2012 - I feel like I spent a lot of last year being overwhelmed, daunted and generally scared about the future - now I just feel like it's time to take back a bit of control and be positive about the action we're taking.

None of our immediate friends have really struggled to conceive (barring one couple who took 18 months) but a lot of friends' relatives seem to have been through IVF recently.

euro - good news about ovulation for you. Roll on next month... or a BFP of course!

nelly - there's nothing more romantic than a winter wedding. You'll be able to take your pick on exotic honeymoon destinations (all very unsuitable with a baby or bump in tow!)

joycep - the story about your gynae is just infuriating. I remember you talking about the promise she's made, it's hard not to be sceptical as she's done such a poor job of looking after you recently.

stasi - I've had a DSLR for a little while too - I love it, although I know I don't use it to it's full potential. I've promised myself to make more regular use of it this year along with perhaps starting a photography course. euro - Project 365 sounds like a great idea, might take a look...

karbea - so pleased that you had that response from your parents about IVF. I must say that was the one nice thing about Christmas when we told people about IVF - everyone seemed genuinely pleased and excited that we were going to be starting the process, which made us both feel more positive about it. I'm patiently waiting for the arrival of AF too to start on Day 21 of the next cycle, all being well. When are you planning to start?

Hello to everyone else.

Hello all!

joycep yes, I am on the steroids now. Today is day 3. Side effects so far are insomnia and a mild feeling of anxiety (like I am about to do some public speaking or something). It's not too bad, and if it does work, it will all be worth it of course. For now, I consider the insomnia good practice for future sleepless nights!

wine did I mention that the sonographer i saw on the NHS didn't mention anything about fibroids (so I am not sure if she saw mine and didn't think it would cause a problem or failed to spot it). When I saw the private gynae, he spotted it in about 10 seconds and pointed it out to me on the screen. I could see it quite clearly. He doesn't think it is big enough to cause me any conception problems though.

Gin they are lovely. I am sure I could share them!

karbea I am glad your mum is excited about IVF.

I watched OBEM. I have to be in the right frame of mind but I like watching it. It gives me hope that if they can all do it, so can I.

My NHS IVF referral is grinding along. Every piece of correspondence has the tone that they are doing us a massive favour and we just have to jump through their hoops, which I hate. But probably not enough to tell them to stick it and go private instead. The medical bills for the immunology stuff are high enough. The hospital wants a third SA from my husband and I have to call on the first day of my next period so they can tell me what they want from me (I am expecting more blood tests because I had my day 2 and 21 tests done back in April/May and a chlymidia test - I ended up doing one of the Boots ones before my HSG because I didn't want to take the napalm style antibiotic they had prescribed for me as an alternative to the usual one I was allergic to, but I have not had an "official" one done. I am wondering whether to tell them about the immunology stuff. The NHS doesn't seem to "approve" of this treatment, but I suspect the Letrozole could throw out my hormone levels so I might have to mention that. I am not really sure what to do. I have a week or so to figure it out anyway.

Hi
i have a few more questions. Do they tell you anything after the HSG or do you have to wait to see consultant? What sort of things will the HSG show? Do you always have to take antibiotics after HSG? I was trying to figure out what Euro meant.
Can you get i'm getting a bit nervous now

nelly have you started looking at your outfit yet?

Great news snow

Hi cakes. When I had mine they tilted the screen towards me during the procedure and when I asked about it, they pointed out the dye coming out of the tubes so I knew straight away that the dye had got through and my tubes were clear. I found it quite fascinating to see everything on screen (I probably would have found it more interesting had I not been a big distracted by being splayed on a bed in an undignified position!).

The antibiotic was standard at my hospital. From what I could gather reading on the web there is a variety of protocols. Some hospitals give you painkillers, some don't (mine didn't but i popped a couple of nurofen beforehand anyway), some test for chlymidia before the HSG, some don't (mine didn't which is why I did my own test) and some give you an antibiotic to take, some don't (mine did, but the standard one was one I am allergic to so after much calling around and consulting the Formulary they gave me an alternative which is the one they use to treat malaria! I decided not to take it and just self-test for chlymidia instead.) I think it is pretty poor practice to just give everyone antibiotics whether they need them or not, tbh. They can mess with people's digestion and immunity and there are the "superbug" issues around them too. My friend had a HSG a couple of months before me at a hospital 5 miles down the road and got painkillers but no antibiotics (so the reverse to me!).

Nelly, can we help you with virtual wedding dress shopping?

How fascinating in an undignified manner. Curiosity would make me want to be able to see there and then. The hospital have said about taking painkillers but haven't mentioned antibiotics at all. I've had two different tests for Chlamidia in the last few months- one to see if I have it at the moment of testing and one to see if I have ever had it (apparently blood test shows antibodies therefore showing if you have ever had it) Don't have blood test results cause they went to consultant altho not expecting a problem.

I think it is the norm to be able to see the screen for this so you should be fine!

Just wondering if anyone else has heard of this one,,, I phoned Dr for results of my LH/FSH and Estradiol blood tests and the note the receptionist read out to me was '? Follicular change' Any ideas? Can't speak to my Dr until Monday.

Cakes that sounds really interesting.

Gawd i'm fed up! So i'm been stuffing my face with Christmas leftover chocolates and Pringles :( Decided this wasn't good so have put some Salmon in the microwave. URGHHH!

I'm hoping it just means my blood test proves PCOS cause then I know probable course of action.

whats up Karbea? Nothing wrong with christmas leftovers cause once they are gone then you have to be good (thats my excuse anyway) Salmon??

Yes for lunch... god! it's late for lunch isn't it!!!