Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your leathers, black nail polish, air guitar and jump in the mosh pit for some serious metalling. All welcome! (Part 18)

[Summerbird73]

New thread for some serious metalling. We are ramping up the amps and churning out some Metallica, Nirvana, ACDC, Stone Temple Pilots... with the occasional 90's rave music!!

If you have miscarried and are ready to TTC again, come and join us in the WTF cycles with the odd VIP ticket to the padded cell for some serious mentalling (now known as Metalling)

Welcome!

fanx everyone - pie lets get-pissed hold hands through this crappy time! oo did someone bring in some fudge brownies? thanks blue

just wanted to jump on and say congrats to pixie and missg your news about your nephew really brightened up my day - it was touch and go but all seems to be well now - all the best wishes to your cousin and babba

summer just wanted to say, I know your due date is coming up soon. Am thinking of you xx

manda good luck with your scan! keep us posted!

pixie congrats on the bfp! whoop whoop!

missg great news about your cousin's wee bubs! That really is lovely news :)

Had another acupuncture session tonight. I fell fast asleep and felt a bit better when I woke up.

Waves to blue, eve, wishing, IQ, marathon shimmer, pebs poppy and everybody else i've missed (am sure there are a few!)

thank you pie it will be on Monday. I think that is part of my mood, i always thought i would be well into another pregnancy by then, also my vv good friend had her li'l girl last month. i bumped into them this morning at nursery drop off, thing is i am sooo happy for my friend as she is ace. just allowing myself some wallow time. I have also had to cancel my day off on Monday as i have no leave left (DS was poorly last week so i had to take 2 days off) so i am going to be at work on the 10th of bloody October

incidentally i have my morning latte and a lovely chocolate croissant! so the day is looking up!

manda thinking of you today with your scan!!

missg how many weeks are you now (sorry, losing track a bit)? to hear you're tired, nauseous and big boobed - that sounds awful but you know what I mean!!

summer grrr to due date looming...now wonder you're feeling down. Maybe being at work will be a good distraction but I realise not what you had planned!

pie glad the acupuncture was relaxing!

I've been fully metalling this morning...I feel rough when I do have symptoms and then panic when I don't!! Had a late night last night, but didn't feel as exhausted as I'd have expected to, then felt so naueaous yesterday morning, but not this morning but v emotional this morning with it all...just 6 weeks today

manda i too am thinking of you today, that bean will be bouncing around like a true mini mosher!

blue those metalling symptoms are completely normal, i remember being PG with DS and panicking that i wasnt feeling sick - then when i did feel sick - OMG it hit me like a ton of bricks!

ok ladies i have just had a complete wobble. although my due date would have been on Monday it has just occurred to me that I was booked in for en elective CS. Which means it would have been done this week. I would probably be holding my baby now shit feck bugger and shite. i want to go and hide... yep being at work is quite good actually, even though i should be on Mat leave now, work is a distraction at the mo.......

Oh summer

big big big hugs summer I am in the same boat re: due date as I would also have been booked in for an elective CS, 2 weeks prior :( My heart rate has actually increased significantly now i'm thinking about my due date and when I would have been going off on mat leave FUCKING ARSE!

Am praying to the bfp gods that you will get a sticky bean this month xxxx

Pie , X posts. Just popping back in to hand you your 20% abv hot choc and a hug. x

thanks to you all ladies i needed that! trying to cheer myself up with thoughts of a kitchen extension (getting a builder quote round tonight) and how much easier a bigger kitchen area will be with a new bubba in July next year.... not sure if this is the month but we got in another spot of SWI last night, i OV'd yesterday so we prob have tonight left but who knows

Ooh kitchen extension summer that sounds like a good distraction to me! And go go with the SWI you know you want to sneak in another tonight and maybe tomorrow as well just for good measure Keep slugging away at the 'special latte' too!

pie

missg I have a scan in 2 weeks time when (by LMP) I'll be 8+2 so just hiding counting down the days hours until we get to that and hope hope hoping there's actually something there, rather than the empty sac we saw last time!! Where's that PMA gone...I know I saw it around here somewhere

Any news from manda really hope she got on ok this morning...

blue your sac will not be empty, you will have another moshing bean in there metalling to a spot of Blink 182

Thanks summer keep telling myself that but there's always that niggling thought in the back of your mind...that's why the mosh pit MN is so very necessary Do sometimes wonder quite how insane I would be without you girls fellow moshers to listen to my warblings and give me a talking to at times!!

yer not wrong blue you ladies are the only people i can truly mosh to.

i have just been in the loos blubbing my eyes out! nobody knows unless they can see my bloodshot eyes, i am trying to let on that i am in a fabulous mood when i just want to go home and blub i was sat on the loo thinking that today i should be sat on a maternity ward with my LO in my arms......

sorry for the me me me posts at the mo, full service will be resumed soon i promise.

summer indulge away with the me me posts...it's important to let it out otherwise you'll get to exploding point!! I know others bought a plant or something similar to mark the date - have you thought about doing something similar?

Yes, it was me who bought a peace lily, and it's totally surprised me how much peace it brings me. Havinng something solid, literally in my view at all most times somehow means he's never forgotten (not that he ever IS...) It's a very odd thing to try and explain but it's like the thought of him is here and present in our actual lives rather than just our hearts/heads. I know this isn't making much sense! All I can say is give it a try if any of this rambling makes any sense and you think it might help you too

I will catch up with you all properly later, really. But have to tell you all The News.

So!

Baby measures 11mm (giving a gestational age of 7+2 (I'm 7+4) but it was an abdominal scan so I'm not worried about 'losing' 2 days with that measurememnt; I'm sure it would've been more accurate with a dildocam but there was really no need) and, in the sonographers words has 'a beautiful, really strong heartbeat'. She pointed out the yolk sac, and said 'look, you can even see the head has developed' pointing it out - last pregnancy I had a scan a 7+3 and it was really just a smooth skinny sausage shape so it was interesting to see the difference a couple of days makes!

All in all, it looks perfect for this early stage and I'm very relieved.

How long that relief will last I don't know! But, for now, I'm happy. Hooray!

Yeah manda been wondering how you've been getting on all day!!! That's really great news! Amazing that you could see so much too! I know you will probably be moshing around again soon but hang onto the joy from that for a while at least if you can! Also v glad the peace lily is bringing comfort too.

Summer Hope you find some sort of peace after today. Until then, you can have your very own plush sofa in the VIP padded area, with an array of pastries, cakes, chocolate, savoury snacks and a fully-stocked bar for your unlimited use. (and don't mind me sitting at your feet slevvering over the wine you are drinking and pate you are eating)
And re SWI... it only takes the one little swimmer remember!
Oooh, and home improvements! Exciting.

Manda great news! Isn't it amazing when you see that wee blob with a heartbeat flickering away??!! Blue that is EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO SEE (PMA PMA PMA PMA PMA PMA) although you may even see a bit more if you're 8 +2! The difference a day makes is really quite phenomenal.

I am trying but failing to not get too ahead of myself but have been looking at cots . My justification is that I need to review the sleeping arrangements as my nephew will soon be too big for his travel cot. Trying to work out if I could fit a junior bed in the nursery (which currently houses a bearded dragon, 4 bookcases and lot of boxes of utter junk)
And when you look at the size of junior beds, you then need to look at the size of cots, and wardrobes and changing tables ... and rocking chairs.... and prams ... and moses baskets ... and play gyms... and car seats ... and cots sets ... and christening gowns ... and .. and .. and ...... FAIL!!

Hi all sorry have been a 'lurky' again lately.

Firstly big congratulations to Manda on her lovely bean and heartbeat news!!

Secondly summer so sorry you are feeling horribly down at the moment. Sending you lots of love and hugs from casa iq and hoping that you are having a relaxing evening with lots of treats and wine!! Xxxx

So an update from me - I was away all weekend with my parents - which was ok and avoided any dramas by using the tiredness excuse to go to bed early. Went back to work on Monday and life has been insanely busy with a mammoth inbox to deal with. Never mind, on the up side I went to aqua natal yesterday which was really good and helped me sleep so that was great. Was also nice to meet other women who are also pregnant and around the same point as me.

MissG I have also been up to no good but I have been spending not just looking.....so far I've bought a second hand set of drawers and wardrobe (was such a good deal from a friends cousin I couldn't let it pass me by) and the bedding and fabric to make matching curtains, bumpers ect. I had vowed not to buy anything until 24 weeks after my 4d scan but i just couldn't stop myself. Too scared to keep anything in the house though.

Today has been a bit of a down day for me also - a good friend went to see her fertility consultant and was told that she has PCOS (I think pie also has this) and her hubby has a low sperm count. She is gutted and isn't really sure how to pull herself up off the ground at the moment. I felt so sorry for her cos she has been my rock in RL going through all this TTC stuff as we both started trying at the same time. I sent her a bunch of flowers to cheer her up a bit as it's been a hard bloody year for her. The consultant has given her some drugs to induce ovulation and a period but the dr isnt hugely confident and thinks they will have to go down the IVF route. At the moment everyone keeps asking the "when are you going to have a baby question" and it is getting tougher to be polite or lie and just say that they arent ready or want more time together ect. Feel so useless at the moment cos I just don't have anything I can say to help her. Sad face this evening - !!!

Sorry for the big moan and non name check - I promise to sort it out!! Love to all you lovely ladies!!! Xxx

Frown has been turned upside down - just had a lovely conversation with DH which is normally wonderful but was made even better as he has promised to 'have a word' with the horrible BIL and explain that my culture and the way we do things is fine for us and he needs to take a back seat because his comments are not ok with him and "he won't have anyone upsetting his wife"........my face is now !!!!! God I love that man - he drives me mad but he does usually come good and sort it out for me.

Also starting to make some headway with my housework which has been neglected due to the terrible bad back but in that time has mounted up considerably. I woke up at 6:30, I could have stayed in bed but decided that getting up would be a better use of my time. I now have a sparkly bathroom which is a huge improvement from the hovel that it was last night. Weather is looking a bit gloomy here so going to start dragging my 'autumn' wardrobe out again.

Hope you are all well!!! Xxx

Arghghgh just lost my message ! GRRRRR

summer how are you today? Hope you are okay xx

Well, i'm fucked. Got my CD3 blood tests results back yesterday and i've basically got a diddly squat cat in chance hell of conceiving each month. My LH was 5.5 (which is fine) but my FSH was 12.7 (!!) That is not freeking good AT ALL. They are supposed to be 1:1 and anything over 10 is considered poor. Looks like my eggs are finally giving up :( :( :(

I was awake half the night fretting and am so down. I really don't know what to do. I think I am going to have to get used to our family of 3 and resign myself that DS won't have a sibling. I am so so gutted. I wish I hadn't even got the bloody blood tests done, at least then ignorance would have been bliss! My GP said my results were 'normal' but even I know anything over 10 means my eggs are in a shambolic state! Wish I hadn't asked for the actual figures now. Seemingly most clinics won't even do IVF with a FSH of that level.

So that result, combined with my low progesterone doesn't bode well at all :( :(

Sorry for me, me, me post. I feel like crap and don't know what to do. They won't normally give clomid to people with high FSH levels either as it just stimulates the follicles to produce more FSH and you have a risk of early menopause (especially if you are older).

IQ I'm not sure if I have PCOS. If you have a higher LH level than FSH you do but mine is the other way around?

I have read you can reduce your FSH levels with diet, vitamins etc but once you have had a high level that's the one that the consultants will always refer to as if it's lowered it's not a true reading (or something).

so sorry for the downer post x

pie I'm so so sorry...just googled FSH and have been baffled with science but get the general gist that the levels really aren't conducive to conception What did your GP advise was the next step?

summer how are you feeling today?

IQ so sorry to hear about your friend...this whole TTC business is very much a rollercoaster and not an easy one! Hope your work is ok - are you back with reduced hours now? Good that your DH is going to chat to your BIL too! How long til DH is back?

I had a v relaxing evening which was very much needed as was soooo tired...probably the other reason I was feeling a bit emotional yesterday but feeling a lot better for some good sleep last night!

whoa whoa whoa pie WTF is your GP doing telling you that the bloods are normal if laypeople like yourself know that this is not good? is there any way you can get a second opinion? even just going to a different GP at the practice? that is fecking outrageous for you!

i urge you to seek some kind of second opinion, do you have any kind of private healthcare? we have it through work and i got a referral to a gynaecologist a while back.

thank you all so much for your support, i was a bit weepy and moody with DH last night (bless him) but i am feeling much better today. DH is going to make me a lovely meal with oodles of vino either at the weekend or Monday. I got loads of cuddles and kisses from DS last night so am appreciating what i have got.

Hope i can spend a little more time in the VIP area though as i am getting rather comfy, and enjoying all the cakes and lattes, i enjoyed some of the complimentary vino and cocktails last night and moshed danced within the velvet rope - was rather looking forward to a rerun tonight

manda excellent news on the 11mm of wonderfulness in your tum! i can imagine it was amazing to see

IQ MissG manda my advice is spend spend spend!! I waited until after my 12 week scan with DS but once i was there i was a retail dream!

Will try and catch up later when-i-am-sick-of-work

oo and you too blue hope you and your bean are bouncing around in a moshing stylee!

Thanks summer glad you're doing ok...take as much time as you need in the VIP area!! Think bean and I may be slowly moshing our way to the loos soon...huge wave of nausea and light-headedness just hit! Trying to 'embrace the symptoms' as I panic if I don't have them...but amazing how it literally hit me out of nowhere as I was feeling pretty ok earlier Can't see me getting much done today TBH...