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Summerbird73 · 22/09/2011 09:13
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babysaurus ·
26/09/2011 21:35
Hello everyone,
Apologies from me too for not much action on the posting front recently. We have been trying to do the bathroom - nearly there but now in huff with DH as he said he'd help with Fimo figurines if I helped with the bathroom but then, at 7pm, told me he can't (ie won't) as he 'wants to get on' with the bathroom. He is painting the walls, nothing desperately urgent and the figurine is being picked up tomorrow. Pissed off is not the word, but I am keeping quiet as I don't want to row and put things back even further. He is lovely in many ways but does have that male trait of assuming that whatever he is doing is far more important than anything anyone else is doing. He also has no concept of time whatsoever and so will say 'I'll be with you in ten mins' when over an hour away and think nothing of it. My best friend has noticed this trait too and it is nice (in a weird way) to know it drives her round the fucking bend too.
Anyway, will stop now as hearing one sided arguements is always dull.
So, as I have been slack on the posting front there is too much for me to catch up with properly. Sorry to anyone in advance who I missed but, as still making this figurine (it's cooking in the oven at the moment) I don't have time to read back properly.
Pebs I am delighted to hear your news. I had a really down week a couple of weeks ago and it lifted when AF arrived. I felt as if I could properly start to TTC again instead of being in the limbo I was in before. This may be the last time we welcome AF for quite some time, so lets, er, make the most of it 
I also notice from the stats that you are the only other one TTC no 1 too; nice to know I am not the only novice!
Smiley I am sorry to read you are feeling crap. I am sorry if you asked this before, but how far were you when you MC'd? I was just over 13 weeks, but everything that counted stopped growing at 6/7 weeks and it has taken eight weeks to get what felt like a real period. I can't offer any advice as such but I do understand completely how you just want to get back on with things asap. I personally think it helps with the 'healing' side of things.
Eve it sounds like your DP is winding you up as much as my DH is, even if it is in totally different ways. All I can recommend is Rescue Remedy and a, er, stiff gin! If that fails, a night at a friends ranting - getting it off the chest and all that!
Shit - the Fimo needs to come out. Will try post more later x
Poppyjen ·
27/09/2011 07:59
Good morning everyone :) Things are a bit more positive in the Poppy household today - I had quite a big temp rise today so I think I may have Ovd yesterday or the day before but I will have to wait until tomorrow (or the day after) to confirm this with more temp rises - or at least no drops! If anyone's interested please feel free to take a peek at my chart here
For those unfamiliar with FF the chart will have a big red line from top to bottom on the day you Ov, but this is only confirmed when you have had 3 temp rises - take a look at my May chart to see this (third one down).
I really can't recommend Fertility Friend enough, it has really helped me make sense of my loopy cycles - its so empowering to be able to see what's going on and helps so much with the metalling (or at least gives me more to metal about so time goes quicker in 2ww 
)
Pie in answer to your question on SWI - yes. Definitely lots of SWI I was just saying to DH last night we're having the most sex we have ever had in our relationship, even in the early days which considering we have been together 10 years in a week's time is not bad going! Sorry to hear about your friend moving away that sucks 
but great news about LP, that's another good acupuncture experience 
. Sorry you feel down - two of my closest friends are approaching 40 this year and one is currently at home with her newborn DC2 (a week old!) and the other is pg with DC2 and due in Jan so I wouldn't count yourself out of the running yet
baby haven't heard about Fimo since I used it as a child - what are you making it sounds brilliant! I am being a bit crafty myself I just made a cot mobile for my friend's new baby - its got on the owl and the pussycat with dangling moon and stars. Really quite proud of it - it was great to do something creative after so many years stuck in an office!
Right porridge for me (and DS) again today - with a dollop of fruit spread mixed in for good measure - any one fancy some
BlueCrane ·
27/09/2011 10:05
Oooh... poppy can I have some porridge please? Already had bran flakes and prunes but porridge sounds good too And I can toast reaching 5 weeks today with my porridge spoon too
marathon hope you enjoyed your ?dirty? meat lunch?I am really enjoying meat in general at the moment?veggies really not very attractive at all anymore!
pie so glad to hear the wedding went well, though it must be tough with your friend moving away. Another yeah for AF and long LP for you!! Obviously a BFP would?ve been much preferable but your LP up to 13 days is great news! 2011 has definitely disappeared rather quickly and it definitely feels as though it has passed in a TTC haze! Hang in there!! for lunchtime SWI!!
smiley tracking ovulation so soon after MC is difficult as everyone?s body?s are different and some people ov v soon whilst others don?t ov until after first AF. Have you tested to see if you?ve got a bfn yet? It took me 4.5 weeks after ERPC to get a bfn and was worth knowing that so that if I did get a bfp then I would know it was a true one and not a hangover IYSWIM? >
baby hope you got your fimo done ok! Glad the house is making progress?bathroom sounds like a good room to have finished!! Sorry DH being irritating!
poppy really hope you get your temp rises to indicate Ov?I never quite got into charting as thought I?d get too obsessive about it all if I did! Lots of SWI is a good thing though!! Am impressed at your creativity with the cot mobile!
Just told our news my very good friend at work and his wife (I work with him full-time and part-time with her) which was nice and they are v about it all!
Poppyjen ·
27/09/2011 16:19
It is all very quiet here today....is everyone...ahem... working??
Tsk Tsk, you all know that keeping up with your MNing is far more important than RL
Missgiraffe1 ·
27/09/2011 17:44
Flippin' nora! You lot have been busy, getting a new thread on the go and everything!
Sorry I've been awol for a while. I was away with work on Thursday until 11.45pm, then left for London the next day at 9.30am. I was then spilled over the sofa for most of yesterday barely able to keep my eyes open.
The hen weekend was great - but exhausting! I have concluded that hen weekends are hard work when pg. We were staying in Covent Garden and there must've been a pub/club in the lane under our window as it was bloody noisy - all night long! I got about 2-3 hours sleep each night. And, I have been so pukey since last Thursday, so I spent most of Saturday standing outside shops deep breathing! My 2 SILs looked after me, and were pretty hilarious when they came in at 4am (I lasted until 1am) pretty well oiled, trying their best - but failing miserably - to be quiet.
I intended to get my nephew a pressie in Hamley's but it was so busy and so hot I couldn't stay in the shop for long enough to actually pick and buy anything for fear of barfing!! I did treat myself to some bare escentuals stuff and jewelry to compensate for the lack of drinking though
Pleased to hear my shower antics have not been forgotten . I really wish I had a big fancy Porcelenosa bathroom at home!! I think I may have to make it a requirement for all future holiday villa hire . My search criteria will now go something like this:
Bedrooms: 3
Pool: Yes
AC: Yes
Bathroom: One suited to rampant sex preferably.
Anyway, am trying desperately to catch up!
Baby so your bathroom's nearly finished then? 
Blue how are you feeling? Bet it felt great to share your happy news with your friends.
Eve sorry to hear about DSs foot . How did he manage that??
Pebs So pleased to hear AF arrived eventually. At least that
particular stress is removed and you can get on with SWI again. Sorry if I missed this, but did you have your appointment with your consultant?
Poppy impresssed with your dedication to the cause FX for Ov soon!
Marathon Corned beef?? Really??? Is that a craving? It gives me the boak. Although, I eat mushy peas on toasted cheese which my DH says gives him the boak, so each to their own.
Congrats Auntie IQ that's lovely news. Glad all well with miniIQ.
Summer at your, erm, liberation story. But sorry evil AF got you. Still in the running for June though! PMA! hang on to that hoodie!
Shimmery at AF, but at your PMA. Were you the creative one getting your July hoodie ready?
Pie Af got you too. Sending some July PMA your way too
Manda how are you? I am so uninspired by food right now. All I can be bothered making is filled pasta and toast - and even that is a struggle!
Oh, god, who have I missed. I have gone back and forth about 10 times and forget what I've read by the time I start typing again! Sorry!
Hi to Boobeez if you're still around, and welcome to the newbies Pixie Wishing and Smiley (Someone please tell me if I've missed someone) sorry you have to be here but glad you found us.
SmileyGirl1 ·
27/09/2011 20:37
Poppy great news about your temp rises, hope you get another now
BlueCrane I think by your msg you are pg? THat's great news! Congrats and great your friends are happy too!
Eve34 keeping my fingers crossed for you.. hopefully you will get good news at the weekend!
MissG - i def agree hen weekends are tricky when pg, i had one to go to when pg and it was def more difficult when pg esp when at the pukey stage too. hope you enjoyed though too
Well finally got some discharge here (TMI apologies) and it just made me sooo happy so hopefullly I might get an opk positive tomorrow morning. We swi'd tonight but i know how ridiculous this sounds but i think i shoudl have stayed lying down after it longer cos when I stood up it felt like it was all gone. Oh well, just got to hope something stayed in there!
Summerbird73 ·
27/09/2011 21:28
oh crikey i am sorry i am really rubbish at catching up on you all, so will just say a quick hello and welcome to smilie really sorry for the reasons you are with us but am glad that you seem to have OV'd pretty quickly, i think mine regulated pretty much right away.
missg is it wrong that i am chuckling at your vomtastic weekend? when i was 7 weeks PG with DS i went to Barcelona for a friends 40th and i didnt even go out in the evening!! i sacked them all off at 8pm - i was rubbish
just updating my stats
Summerbird73; TTC#2; cycle 5; AF due circa 19 Oct
Eve34; TTC # 2 cycle 2 since MC AF due 23 Sept
PieMistress; TTC #2, cycle 4/5; AF due circa 25th Oct
ShimmeryPixie: TTC#1, cycle 2 post MC AF due 18 Oct
Poppyjen TTC#2 Cycle 3 post mc AF due ?(4th October ish)
Babysaurus: TTC#1, Cycle 1 (?), AF hopefully NOT due around 11th October.
Pebspop: TTC#1, Cycle WTF??? AF due sometime in the next decade!!
Smileygirl: TTC#2. Cycle 1 post MC, AF due circa 11th Oct but who knows
BFP: (insert your due dates etc here)
BlueCrane TTC#1 EDD 31st May 2012
MandaHugNKiss TTC#4 EDD 18th May 2012
MissGiraffe TTC #2 (1DD, 15yo) EDD 10th May 2012
MarathonMama TTC #2 (1DD, 25mo) EDD 17th March
InsomniaQueen TTC #1 EDD 18th March 2012
I was on the tram coming home for DS this morning, two elderly ladies came and sat behind me - typical 'old lady' conversation:
Lady 1: Oo my DIL is expecting again, she already has two boys, such a shame she doesnt have a girl, fingers crossed this time
Lady 2: Oh that is a shame, the poor thing - better luck this time eh?
Summerbird quietly 
thinking WTF! I am blessed with DS but would be eternally grateful for a bean that sticks! Summerbird trying to keep her gob shut!
Further on in the conv
Lady 2: Yes well i would have loved to be a grandmother but it didnt happen, ah well never mind
Lady 1: Just one of those things i spose, anyway did you see that funny advert with the dogs..........
I guess it is a generation thing but they were being so bloomin flippant about some poor DIL who probably cherishes her two sons and again about some other DIL who probably suffered for years with fertility issues!
OP posts:
PieMistress ·
27/09/2011 21:39
Hi Peeps!
I have a question ... is is possible to have a chemical pregnancy without a bfp first? I did a test on Sat (pre-wedding to check i could drink) and it was bfn. I'd had a few days of queasiness, strange dreams and loads of CM so just wasn't sure (despite my low progesterone result!). Anyway, still felt not quite right on Sunday. AF then came on Monday, 2 days later than normal and it's been very very heavy and clotty and i've had horrible cramps and backache? Maybe it's just one of those horrible AFs but it's just been so bloody (sorry for TMI) that I wondered if it was something else?
Ho Hum! Have got my Day 3 blood tests this week so i'm crapping myself that they will come back as menopausal or something :( Part of me doesn't even want to have them done as ignorance is bliss .... right ?!
smiley don't worry about it falling out! Good work on the SWI and whoop on the CM! :)
missg the hen weekend sounds tiring! Bet you are glad to be back at home now
eve how many dpo are you now?
poppy whoop on temp rise! Had a nosy at your chart and it deffo looks good for having just ovulated! Now the 2ww!
pebs have you been for more acupunture? when do you get your results back from the m/c? hopefully not too long now
blue how have the sofa and mineblue been? hope you are feeling better x
baby whoop for imminent ovulation and enticing DH with some unsuspicious SWI!
I know i've missed peeps wishing shimmery summer pixie IQ marathon ... anybody else????
Hope manda is ok? Not heard from her for a while?
BlueCrane ·
28/09/2011 11:52
Morning all
eve how is DS doing? Hope his foot heals quickly and the stress with it and school next week goes ok...
missg so glad you had a good weekend in London even if crazy tiring!! Hamley?s is always hot and heaving!! Glad you treated yourself to some goodies to compensate for the lack of 
though!
smiley glad to hear of the CM?any news on the OPK this morning?
summer glad to hear DS isn?t as ill as you feared?LOL to him running around the house shouting ?chicken? Grrr to the conversation you overheard on the tram though!!
pie I?m afraid I don?t know the answer to your question about CP but I did wonder the same earlier in the year when my cycles were getting longer and longer each month and AF was v horrid and heavy with clots when it did come?I guess that there could be fertilisation and a failed attempt at implantation which could possibly delay AF and cause crazy AF but your body not actually get to the point of producing HCG?IYSWIM?so I guess in that respect then technically ?yes? (maybe 
) At least you are having tests etc which will hopefully shed some light on your cycles!
manda hellooooo?.are you out there? How are you doing? If you?ve got your heard firmly buried in the sand at the mo that?s fine, happy for you to stay there?just don?t want you to think we?ve forgotten about you!!
pebs glad you got some answers from the Consultant?a friend had the same thing and after a still birth with her first (before they found out) she has gone on to have 4 healthy DC?s with the aspirin and injections throughout pregnancy
poppy how?s the temps today? Really hoping the rise stays and it?s Ov time in Poppyland!!
Well, I am up and down to be honest last night I didn?t feel as tired at all and had my second ?party? to do so didn?t get home until 10:30pm and still wasn?t all that tired, DH said I was just ?wired? with adrenalin from doing the party and TBH after I?d had a nice shower and chilled with the new Next Christmas catalogue for a bit when I did get into bed at 11:30 I was soooo tired and ready to sleep. I have also come out in loads of spots on my face and remember the same happening at 5ish weeks last time?but then everything stopped at 5-6weeks last time too so am a bit about what?s going on! My boobs have definitely grown but aren?t sore ? last time they were soo painful. Trying not to compare too much but it?s difficult and trying to stay calm and PMA chilled but that?s not easy either. Just want to know it?s all ok in there and that this time there will be a yolk inside the sac and a little bean actually growing there rather than the empty black hole we saw on the scan last time I so enjoyed telling my friends but I felt like such a fraud when it all went wrong last time that part of me wishes no-one knew at all so that if it doesn?t go right then I won?t have to deal with that feeling again IYSWIM. Also DH has ?a bad cold?man flu so trying to look after him at the moment which isn?t easy!
Oh dear...now just had a call from my best friend to say that she and her DH have both just been made redunant this morning they work for the same company, he has been there for over 20years! She is on Mat leave at the moment after DD2 and they have just moved into a new house with bigger mortgage etc...they've been told to go in on Monday (DH on leave this week) to collect stuff and pick up paperwork and that's it!!
BlueCrane ·
28/09/2011 16:31
Update...feeling a bit better about things as been v tired and felt a bit nauseous this afternoon and I got my booking app and early scan date through today - 18th and 20th October respectively so just 3 weeks to wait...I'll be 8+2 by the scan so should be a good chance of seeing little bean and hopefully a heartbeat too getting that PMA back...thanks for letting me lounge on the padded seat and vent here earlier
V quiet on here again today...are people actually (ahem) working ??
Poppyjen ·
28/09/2011 17:36
Hi all - just a quick update from me temps still up today (actually same as yesterday which isn't as good as another rise but I'll take it over a fall IYSWIM) so here's hoping this carries on over the next few days.
TMI alert - the temp rise seems to tally with CM too - no more EWCM since monday.
I would say its looking good, so that means 2DPO today - only 12 days to go! I only have Clearblue Digis in the house and I refuse to buy any more internet cheapies or others. I'll just have to wait it out until AF is a no show :) .....well that's what I say now.....I may cave
Blue great news about the booking appointment and early scan
Pebs as Blue said, it is great that you have some answers and have a plan for next time. So pleased the consultant was helpful - its lovely to hear good stories about the medical profession for a change!
Well I had a cuddle of my friend's 10 day old baby today - I wasn't as emotional as I thought I would be. I didn't even feel broody to be honest. It is as others have said before I don't feel any sadness that I didn't have that baby, as it isn't mine - does that make sense?
So freaking hot down here today - I have been out with DS in the pram all day and I think I may well have sunburn. That is absolutely outrageous behaviour on the part of the sun at the end of September. I wish to complain - where are my lovely crisp clear Autumn days?
BlueCrane ·
28/09/2011 18:37
Just had the most amazing conversation with my Mum...told her the news and she then said 'well I can tell you now'...they've already booked flights to come over mid May for 2 months before they knew we'd got a bfp!!! Such a huge blessing to know she's coming over and it's all sorted!! Feeling very about it!!
Poppyjen ·
28/09/2011 19:55
Yay Blue that's great news, it will be so lovely to have your Mum over for such a long time
My parents are moving back over to the UK next summer after 14 years abroad - hopefully just in time for them to be a great support when we finally have DC2. Can't wait - it is so hard with family so far away!
babysaurus ·
28/09/2011 20:44
Blue that's fabulous news about your mum! Its also good to see you are feeling a bit more chipper.
I still have no bathroom. The whole thing is SO painfully slow it's untrue. I'd shout at him but that would probably only make things take longer. We have no shower (or washing facilities to speak of apart from the bucket and kettle in the cellar) so what does DH spend all of today doing? Yup, the floor. Attaching hardboard to the floor so he can tile it next week. The base of the shower is in the corner of the room and that's it. Literally. I know he's doing it himself etc etc and it's hard work (but he seems reluctant to find me a job or involve me in any way) but, really, this is madness. He has also, while the PVA on the floor was drying, made a mantelpiece for the Victorian iron fireplace we bought off Ebay and sprayed the frame of the mirror we bought a while back (fancy gold frame, antique style) black. I am sure I am not alone in thinking that perhaps these are not so much a priority as, say, fitting the frigging shower
Needless to say, we have not done much SWI at, what I guess to be, the right time but this has not stopped me metalling. Oh yes, everything is a possible sign (even though I had no symptoms whatsoever before the BFP last time!) I can't help but remember we didn't bonk like mad the time it worked so I have it in my mind that it'll be the same this time too.
However, and I really hate this about TTC, I also have two weeks till it's worth testing and also have a potentially boozy weekend ahead of me. Friday we are having dinner at a friends who drink loads (and fill your glass while they fill theirs) and the nights at their house normally end in a fuzzy way. I am also seeing a friend for a long walk and pub dinner on Saturday and also meeting a friend for drinks on Sunday. (I realise this makes me sound like a drunk, I'm not - honest! It just sounds far worse written down!) While I can get away with drinking less than normal I think it would be hard , and possibly pointless, to not drink at all. Plus, everyone would think I was already pg if I didn't drink, which would make things all the more tricky.
I am trying not to mention TTC intentions too much to DH too. While he, obviously, knows we are I don't want him to feel as if we have to at certain times (yet.) Instead I plan to just lure him into bed - though unfortunately he's currently not that desirable when covered in sawdust and sweat and I don't have a shower to shove him in first!!
Pebs I am really pleased that the cause of your MC's is easily treatable. It must be so awful for people to have unexplained MC's as the frustration would make the it even more upsetting. Hopefully it will be problem free, and you won't have long to wait. PMA PMA PMA
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InsomniaQueen ·
29/09/2011 07:24
eve - OMG BFP - talk about a bolt out of the blue!!!!!!
Congratulations......!
I know things are a bit insane in eve land at the moment but......BFP....yay!!!! Xxxxx
Poppyjen ·
29/09/2011 07:57
Eve that's great! As IQ says it is rotten luck that things are crazy with you at the moment but this is wonderful news . How is your DS? Hope he's on the mend
Another temp rise for me today so Fertility Friend has finally confirmed ovulation so I am 3 DPO today. Let the symptom spotting commence.....
BlueCrane ·
29/09/2011 07:57
eve that's fantastic news!!! I must say when you kept saying AF was late but it was 'just stress' I was a bit and wondering, especially as you were feeling so emotional about everything...FANTASTIC news!!! Hope you're ok and not feeling too shellshocked with everything else going on at the moment!!
I'm still feeling very following my conversation with Mum last night...I was soooo stressed last time about them having to come over when it's expensive at Christmas and this time was trying not to stress that if we didn't get a bfp soon then it'd be the Olympics by due date...but I just can't believe they went ahead and booked the tickets in August whilst we were still early days in the post MC TTC and the dates now fit perfectly with this little bean... definitely PMA this morning!!!
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