CLOMID first timer....

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I can't seem to find any clomid threads that are active, so thought I would start this one.

Currently just finished taking my last tablet (50mg) on my first month of clomid, I'm very excited & nervous at the same time.

So many things going on in my head, no one to really talk to, symptoms are a bitch (but must mean something is working if I have symptoms yeah?!)

has anyone taken clomid without being monitored? My consultant isn't going to scan me to check on follicles, I just have to go back to see her in 3 weeks (not sure what for?)

Really hoping this works!

But if anyone wants to join me on a clomid ride, share info or success stories, feel free to......

Annalou, here are your real flowers...

R girls I hate this part of our journey were its all negative Negative news that we get it breaks my heart I wish it was possible for me to give us all what we long for an that wud take all our hurts an pain away grrr frustrates me alls I can do is be hear an support use on hear annalou golden & summer big special hugs to u three we will get there girls x x x

Thank you golden :) I really hope you don't see af today we could all do with a little bit if good news. No pressure lol xx

I guess I had better get up for work although I just can't face it today lol

Big hugs girls xx

Oh golden bless you. For me it's a blood test on Friday, to see whether the HCG jab actually got me to ovulate this month.
When I first went in, the nurse pretty much laid it out - 6 months of clomid, then on to the jabs (basically - the drugs that you'd use to prep your body for IVF, but fertilising them via sex rather than invasive procedures! - I think they try 3 cycles of those), then IVF.

meluv thanks for always being so supportive, you are so lovely.

Annalou I hadn't realised you weren't with a specialist yet, that will be a brilliant step for you. I know you're having a really rotten time at the moment and you really do have my sympathies, but if you can, try to just look forward to seeing the specialist and getting much more involved treatment (oh and avoid that awful girl at work... only 4 more days til the weekend)

Hi ladies I am just catching up on messages from my hotel room in Venice before we fly home later today.

I am so sorry to hear that some of you are at that rubbish crap time in your cycle which means you're feeling down.

Golden I too have heard that actually most people conceive on 3 cycle of clomid. It kind of makes sense for a number if reasons it could take a few months for hormones to balance and it also takes 90 days for an egg to develop so yes you might haveyhe odd crappy egg but clomid can help strengthen this but it will still take time so as hard as it might be my lovely try and think of this asthe journey. And failing that eat all the milk tray you like snuggle up and weather the storm until you come out the other side.

Summer thanks for your comments you really do seem ao thoughtful and I appreciate the way you have cheerful words for everyone just remember if you need them we can give them to you too.

I am sorry I havent put messages for others it's really hard to see on my little I phone screen and keep going back and forth so will log in from home when I am back but sending all you lovely ladies lots of love and thoughts.

I am on cycle day 26 and can't wait for AF to start. Have been pretty chilled on our break with the odd crazy tantrum putting it down to hormones. Not holding out hope this month as was so fed up last month we had hardly BD and not exactly sure when I ovulated all though had egg White from day 13-16 so guessing some time around then. We did BD at 14 and 18 so guess could be in with a chance but I just want to get on with clomid now. Prob not good for me but have eaten and drunk lots on our little trip but it's felt good. Anyway I mega bloated with the heaviest and most painful boobs but typical AF symptom. Will keep you all updated. Now off my last half a day on this beautiful city and back to reality tomorrow xx

I did it girls I know I'm stupid to but I did a find out 7 days before your missed af :( and as suspected its negative.

Annalou is this an HPT? Sorry to hear it's negative but as always it's highly unlikely to give an accurate result now but there is something totally uncanny about us girls knowing that and we still do it I know I do EVERY month without fail. I even sneak in the tests do DH doesn't see them!

You will be so much better off when you are referred to specialist I can't believe you are on clomid and haven't been before now.

I am reading q quite light hearted book called an impatient womans guide to infertility it's quite good and from what i can remember i think it explains a bit about why opks don't work all the time with clomid hence it's so important to be monitored.

I also seem to remember someone posted about referral and BMI. In my area (and it ia different in different PCT areas) your bmi has to be 30 and mine was 31 and then 30.2 and they wouldn't refer until it was 30. That was the male doctors I them broke down in front of a lovely female nurse practitioner and she was supportive and made the referral. But it is different in areas xx

CES I'm so glad that you're having a wonderful time Venice, it's one of my favourite places that I've ever visited. If you get this in time, if you haven't been there yet, there is a really lovely park if you walk all along the waterfront on the riva degli Schiavoni (but right, right down to the end) - brilliant gelateria on the way too.
Don't worry about eating and drinking lots on your trip - you are in Italy after all, it would be impossible not to, so you might as well enjoy it rather than feel guilty about it :)

That is so interesting that it takes 90 days for an egg to develop, I didn't realise that. I am putting failure to ovulate on first two cycles of clomid down to that now :) (Come on, cycle 3! You can do it!) Anyway, I hope your AF arrives soon so you can get on with the clomid (or, even better, you caught an egg this month!)

Annalou I'm sorry sweetheart. I've made a rule with myself that I cannot do an HPT until a week after a missed period. In the early days I did so many and they depressed all hell out of me. I really think they're best avoided until your have a very strong suspicion that you need one - getting that negative result over and over is like a blow to your heart.

Annalou, I can only echo Summer & CES, you poor girl. Here are more flowers I picked these especially from a neighbour's garden.

CES, how ignorant of me to have not wished you 'happy holidays'. How wonderful to be in Venice and what a fabulous break you must have had. I think your bed-rocking (to use Meluv's glorious terminology) on CD14 was marvellously timed with EWCM appearing from CD13. Fingers crossed for you. When is AF due?

Summer, these post-Clomid jabs...will they be available to me on the NHS? Would my age (41) preclude any such treatment?

Guess what? My period still hasn't arrived I shouldn't be hopeful - last month it turned up at 8pm - but I have been keeping teeny little secrets from you girls for a good few days. This is because I can't stand 'symptom spotters' - women who clog ttc threads with their imaginary twinges (trapped wind) and tender breasts (ill-fitting bra). They are always so devastated when AF turns up and it makes me want to scream on their behalf. So...I resolutely refuse to acknowledge anything remotely interesting going on inside me during the 2ww. However...I was awoken yet again this morning at stupid o'clock with the most sickening nausea and my nipples are still sore to touch.

I've never known anything like this (I have a stomach of iron and my very protruding nipples have withstood years of abuse when I was a stripper - don't ask!) What can it all mean??

Hi ladies I hope you don't mind me joining the thread, I've been reading it for the past couple of evenings and it has really helped me realise that all the symptoms etc that I'm having are infant normal and not me being a total crazy lady!

I'm on my 1st cycle of clomid cd11 after ttc for over a year and I've just been for my scan this afternoon, they saw 2 follicles but they're only 12mm so, I have to go back on Thursday. Mixed emotions, better than nothing at all I suppose. DH is positive as ever, saying I'll definitely ovulate, I wish I had his optimism. Does anyone know any more about follicles etc?

goldengirl71 I'll keep my fingers crossed for you!!!

Ooh golden I hope my gut feeling are true for you lovely I wud be over te moon I have everything crossed for you annalou big hugs lovely we r all hear for you X summer u r fab an u seem very very strong big hugs to u too ... Rosie welcome hunny this is a great thread with loads of lovely girls on hear xxx

Golden I can't believe you haven't tested today - you are being very strong putting it off! All my fingers are crossed. And I know exactly what you mean about not symptom spotting, but yours' do sound rather positive!
As for the gonal f jabs (I looked them up!) I don't see why they wouldn't be available to you on the NHS, but in any case, I have a feeling you're not going to be needing them. Meluv has good gut instincts, right?

Rosie, welcome to the thread (aka the madhouse - yep, being a crazy lady is totally normal when you're on this drug!)
Two follies at 12mm is pretty good for your first cycle at CD11, they can grow by 2mm a day which would make them 18mm (technically 'mature') by CD14 which is 'normal' ovulation day. So, do not lose hope!
At the same time, I think it is always good to be prepared for this to be a long journey. Then so much the better if it doesn't have to be.
What's your background - PCOS/unexplained fertility/etc?

ps golden there is a pink on my other thread, I thought you knew her too! :)

Thanks meluv, golden and summer just in yet another shitty mood

Golden I've got high hopes for you hun I so hope it happens for you please please please keep us posted :) :)

I'm just so confused I have that stretchy discharge again???? Isn't that a sigh??? I just don't think I've ovulated this month.

I'm really worried about getting referred as I know I will get rejected cause of my weight I've not got an issue with it it's not like I'm 20 stone or anything but my gp said they will reject me but she will fight my corner. I know it should spur me on but I'm such a comfort eater it just makes me worse its a fucking viscious cycle. I think if this 2nd cycle doesn't work I may go private for more rounds of clomid what's your thoughts??

summerintherosegarden thanks for the welcome and reassurance. I hadn't thought of it like that, come on follicles keep growing!
But yes I do try to prepare myself for the worst, I don't think for 1 minute that I'll be successful on my 1st cycle but really want to be. Does it mean that the clomid is working by just having the follicles or would I need to ovulate for it to be classed as working?
My background is that I have 1 polycystic ovary (but not the syndrome) DH is all ok but I've had pretty much no af for the last year. Before now I've always been totally regular, why does life do things like this!?! How about you?

Hi Rosie, I'm also a PCO-er - well, both ovaries are polycystic and I don't ovulate but I don't have any of the other issues that usually come with the disorder, which I am thankful for (little things, eh?) DH has 'super sperm' - which makes me feel all the more rotten, as if he was with a 'normal' woman he'd no doubt have got her pregnant within minutes!

Anywho - the follicles are growing because of the clomid, but it won't technically have worked until you ovulate. I had an 18mm follie on my second cycle (now on my third) but sadly no ovulation - this cycle I got an HCG shot to hopefully trigger that (please please please)

I didn't have an AF after coming off the pill in August last year, but before I went on it (about 5 years previously) I too was totally regular and foolishly assumed conceiving would be fine. Oh well - whenever I feel down about this I think of that quote, "be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle." And this one is ours'.

Annalou, sorry hun if I've missed this but what's your BMI just now? And what did the GP say it had to be to get a referral? That's brilliant that she's going to fight your corner. You could go private if you wanted but, and I really hate to say it, your chances of conceiving are going to increase so much with each kilo you can manage to shift. I know it's hard as I believe you have insulin resistance with your PCOS which makes it very, very tough to lose weight but as I think I said before, you really have to stay away from the sugar as that is what, with insulin resistance, will just cause the pounds to pile on.
Have you ever tried a low GI diet? You might find it helps with the comfort eating - you can still eat a fair bit and you can still have your comfort foods (for me - peanut butter toast) but you just have to avoid all those high GI foods that will cause your blood sugar to spike and your body to go mad converting that into fat.
Let me know if I can help you at all - my aunt is a nutritionist so I know a fair bit about it.

Rosie, hello and welcome Those follicles look promising and Summer is right - they can grow 2mm per day. I think I'm right in saying that for Clomid to have 'worked' you would have to actually release an egg from those follicles - and only a CD21 progesterone test will confirm ovulation took place. There is someone else on this thread (maybe you, Meluv?) who has a polycystic ovary but not the syndrome. You are not alone in your frustration with your body. I don't have any known 'condition' but I am 41 and therefore battling my own little demon known as Decrepit Fu*king Eggs Syndrome (DfES). How old are you and do you have any children already?

Maybe we should start putting little stats at the end of our posts for newcomers (and oldies like me with poor memories)? Here's mine:

41, no kids, first Clomid cycle (and STILL waiting for AF!!)

We crossed posts, Summer. Maybe it was you and not Meluv I was thinking of who has the PCO minus the syndrome? I think your dietary advice to Annalou is spot on. Weight is such a touchy issue amongst women but we need to be honest with each other on here and tell it like it is. Obesity is as important to tackle as smoking for a woman trying to get pregnant and I do hope you can make some inroads to losing the weight, Annalou. Do you do any exercise at all? Do you drink alcohol? We will never judge you..we will only suggest ways you can try to optimise your chances of getting your body ready for that BFP x

Hmm, could be both me and meluv...I think it's quite common!

Here are my stats: 27, no kids but two doted on cats, PCO on both ovaries, third cycle of clomid (100mg) after two cycles failed to make me pop an egg. Gawd that makes my life sound depressing!

Golden have you done a test today??? I can't believe how good you are being x

By the way golden it's gone 8 o clock... are you going to test tonight or wait until the morning?

Haha x post!

My stats 28 pcos first cycle of clomid 50 mg no children :(

My bmi is in the forties I think I'm not that fussed about my weight. I'm a size 18 which isn't small but it could be worse.

My food diary today is as follows
5 cups of tea with no sugar from the vending machine at work
Blt sandwich from m&s
Packet of crisps
Bacon sandwich
Can of Pepsi max

Hmmmmm doesn't look good does it lol

Yesterday
2 toast
1 sml glass orange juice
Chicken nugs :(
Chicken with veg n a few roast pots

There it's out in the open :(

Hi ladies, could I possibly join you?!

I have PCOS, have been ttc since last september. Already have 2 children (previous relationship) and didnt have any problems with concieveing really.

So today I had a gynae appointment and she has prescribed me Clomid! Im so excited and happy and feel like a bit of pressure has been released.

I had a miscarriage in august which was so awful.

It all seemed a blur in the hosptal room, blood tests to be done and scanning 4 times in the month. I am on cd27 now and am waiting to test before af arrives.

Just wanted to join you all and say hello x