With angel babies in the sky, some of us expecting rainbow babies, others still ttc and definitely swi!!

[Bluetinkerbell]

started new thread! we do talk a lot, don't we?

mel Im so glad for you. FX for a sticky bean.

And my boss has deffo control issues. I pity his wife.

Ciwi, and lots of love - sorry to hear you had a bit of a meltdown last night. I'm sure it will all be fine today - good luck! I have exactly the same feelings about wanting to be able to keep this one. I just want everything to be okay!

Green, your boss sounds like a cock, grr! Good for you standing up for yourself. You're absolutely right that you shouldn't have to stand for that.

Angel, how are you today? GILS behaving herself? Good luck tomorrow! Looking forward to hearing from you - what time is your section booked for?

Mel, so pleased for you. Hope the MW gets back to you quickly.

Spent last night switching between terror and hope. It is exhausting! DH and I went out for dinner and at one moment we'd be giggling and having thumb wars and the next we'd be very sombre thinking about what was to come. Total mood swings in both of us. I slept well, though, and didn't have any bad dreams, so it's a good start for today.

Tooand Ciwi thinking of you x
And thank you Blue for the thread on Saturday - had tears for all our babies while candle was burning
Anyone know anything about SUA? I got a letter from my consultant confirming the results of my tests and saying there was no specific reason why Jacob died but that I had 2 vessels in the umbilical cord. She glossed over that fact but when I spoke to my midwife she said that it is associated with problems and I've since read that there is a high incidence if fetal demise with this abnorality. I don't understand why the consultant didn't make more of it - thinking because they should have picked it up in a routine ultrasound and I would have had monitoring if they had - as it was I was low-risk with

wow i cant get on the pc for 3 days and soo many posts i have missed.

blue what a lovely thread i lit 2 candles, 1 for my angel grace and 1 for all your angels.

mel big congrats, sending you lots of sticky vibes! my due date is a couple of weeks before the date we had gracei am hoping they wont let me go too late.

too and ciwi thinking of you today (hugs)

my next scan is 25th. baby is moving more now which is a bit reassuring and dh felt it last night for the first time :-)

hi to everyone else :-)

oh forgot angel can't wait to hear about our 2nd rainbow baby :-)

Sorry posted too soon...
... With midwife led care. Sorry for the "what if" scenario, I know it's not healthy to be constantly looking for answers where none exist but I can't help it. I saw my friend's baby boy yesterday and i've been feeling terrible since - just anxious and panic-y and really restless night, bad dreams. Sometimes wonder how long I can live like this. Sorry for depressing post.

dont ever be sorry for a post august we are all here to help each other through the good and bad times. Your going to be like this when they cant give you a definite answer, can you ring your consultant up and ask them why they didnt discuss this fact with you. It might help you to hear it again and to go through some more of your questions. Some times I think its a shock to hear the results and you dont always ask the right questions and in hindsight you wished you had asked about this and that.
I suppose I was lucky that the reason Ophelia died was quite clear, she had a tight knot in her cord that cut off her blood supply.

Thanks green - that's a good idea, I might try phoning to see if they look for a single umbilical artery when they scan at 20 weeks and if not, why not. Everything I've read suggests that it's associated with IUGR and that if it's detected you should be monitored in the last month. It makes me feel sick - wish I had a time machine.

Angel good luck for tomorrow.... Will be thinking of you, can't wait to hear about GILS x

Hi shakey, x posts with you, and everyone else

Dating scan on 2nd Nov. I'll be approx 7+ 3 then. I hope that that's not too early to see a heart beat. Was going to be the week after but we're away on a "stress" break.
I went up to the crem at the weekend with some fresh flowers and told Ruby about her new baby brother or sister. It was nice. DH was at the gym and then took the huff that I went without him. Men?!
Saying prayers for both Too and Ciwi going through their test/scans just now. I hope with all my heart that everything is fine with the ladies and their wee ones xxx

mel thats good news hopefully you will be able to hear or see something of the heartbeat. Not too long to wait, but I bet it feels like an age.

Ok, am back. So far so good - Bean was jumping around both before and afterwards and didn't seem fazed by the big needle right next to his or her head! I have to watch out for any bleeding or leaking of fluid and call Triage if it happens, but period-y cramps are normal. So far I haven't got any. I keep worrying I'm leaking, mind - how do I tell the difference between amniotic fluid and discharge? Is amniotic fluid yellow? Maybe I should have a nap and stop freaking out.

Ciwi, how did it go?

Glad it went well Too! Now rest up! :)
when do you now the results?

Am on sofa wrapped in duvet! Results for Down's, Edwards and something else will be back by Friday, hopefully, and the more detailed check of every other pair of chromosomes will be back in a couple of weeks. The second set of results will include the sex, too, so there is something good to look forward to.

too Im glad today went well for you, I hope your dh is looking after you! Did the amnio hurt?

A little - not very much. The needle hurt a little bit going in, and then a bit more when it went through the wall of the womb. Nothing terrible, though. They said I might get a burny feeling as they drew the fluid out, but I didn't. She put the needle in (I was watching the screen, not looking at my tummy, and DH was made to stand in the corner, so he couldn't see the needle either) and then said it had stuck on the membrane and she would have to reposition it, and then went stab! That didn't really hurt any more - just a bit more pressure, but I could see the needle shoot down closer to Bean's head, which was scary to watch.

DH has been pampering me and has now gone out to rearrange the garage in a slight huff - think he is all wound up to ridiculous heights and needs to work it off a bit. A bit of physical exercise will help.

Hi girls, all went as well as it could really, the placenta and blood flow is normal and baby measuring normal for dates. The consultant said he is optimistic and when dh asked if we are looking good to get to 24 weeks he said oh yes, and then some, so hopefully that means that this little one is likely to get far along enough to be ok. I have to go back for another Doppler in 4 weeks and if that's ok no more till 30weeks. he even gave us a 4d scan and picture, couldn't tell if it was a girl or boy though as baby wouldnt let him see. Not bothered at all about that though.
too glad things went ok for you too, I am sure your results will all be fine on Friday, just take time out to rest and let dh look after you x
angel the report from my scan today says 3 vessels in cord so they can definitely tell on a Doppler scan, maybe you should ask for one of those next time?
mel yay for 5 weeks, I had a scan at 6+6 this time and they saw the heartbeat x
Sorry to everyone I have missed, have had a stressful and tiring day and am shattered now!

So relieved that things have gone well today for you girls. Now just the results for you Too. remember plenty of rest [waggy finger out] xx

Ciwi, oh good, that sounds highly promising! Excellent news.

Mel, they ought to be able to see a heartbeat at 7+3 - they saw one at 6+5 with me. FX for a nice clear hb!

August, I think consultants tend to gloss over things too. My PM results were pretty inconclusive - placenta was only operating at 80%, but that could be normal; head was on 95th centile but weight on 10th, so there might have been some IUGR but maybe not as brain:liver ratio was normal; death caused by hypoxia over a few days, but no really clear reason why. I found it very hard to understand and really only accepted it when we got a second opinion from an obstetrician unconnected with the hospital. It is such a horrible time, trying to absorb everything when nothing makes much sense.

Too so glad you got through today & fx for the results. Well done xx
Mel this time we saw a HB at 6 weeks. Not long to 7/11 xx
Ciwi excellant news xxx hope you re relieved. Xx
Blue hope u re ok?
Hi Shakey, Jane xx
Green I ve found most of my bosses to be knobs. I ll certainly post when I can x
August hope you can get some answers from your consultant x
Hi Razz hope u re ok?
Been back in for another trace ; all good. Out for lunch & sorted all my stuff out .
Will post when can. Love to all xxx

lots of luck tomorrow angel, looking forward to hear all about gils x

ciwi Im so glad the scan went well, and the sonographer was nice.

too wow what a tale, I think I would have screamed out when the needle went in that far! Glad the little bean and you are ok. Lots of rest for you, (milk it). And fix for the results on friday.

angel I hope tomorrow goes smoothly and its one of the best days of your life. Cant wait to hear but dont rush to tell you enjoy your little one.

green sorry your boss is so awful :(

august have you asked what they'll do about checking for the future with the cord?

mel not too long to wait for your scan, hope it goes well :)

too so glad all went well, hope Friday comes fast and that you're fine until then

ciwi glad your scan went well, are you more relived now? Obviously will still be a worry for you but it's another milestone xx

angel thinking of you for tomorrow, really looking forward to hearing your news :o Very excited :o

thanks Angel I'm fine, very tired after a busy weekend :)
also this ttc is getting a bit frustrating :( on CD31 and I don't have a clue whether I have ov'd already or not, these cheap Amazon sticks are not doing the trick for me I'm afraid. Anyone a Clearblue Fertility monitor spare for me?

My little sis had also phoned me this weekend saying she was a few days late. She was going on a spa weekend with friends and asking what she could and couldn't do.
I texted her just now to ask how it went and she replied that her AF came today. So I said oh well that's typical... to which she replied she was sad and disappointed about it and that she wants it so much!
She only stopped with the pill back in July just before her wedding. She said she might be focussing on it too much. Yeah well that's life you know! :(
Sorry for the rant... it just annoys me, she deserves happiness and a baby as well, but don't talk about be about being disappointed when your period comes... there are much worser things in life to go through than having your period...

Angel I hope you have a superb day tomorrow when you will meet your lovely daughter Gils! I'm very sure Georgie is looking after you! Let us know how it goes! Give her lots of cuddles and a kiss from me

I'm getting all excited about all these births (I'm still following on the November forum and we had one every day since Friday) The one I was most excited about was Caz's little boy Xander being born, her precious angel Anabelle is now a proud big sister! On the other hand I so so wish it would be me giving birth around now :(
I am however now convinced I would really like a home birth next time...
which reminds me... references for the house are ok! :) we do however need a guarantor because I put in an individual application just on my name, as DH just started out as self-employed. I don't earn enough for the rent/other expenses ration (1500 pounds less than what is needed) so we had to ask DH's brother to be a guarantor for us. He will never have to pay our rent, didn't have to in the last year, as we've always managed... we would compromise on other things... a roof over our head is more important than other things.

So happy for good scans and amnio's today! hopefully results will be positive too!

love to all!
(sorry for the epic post)

Arh Blue we can all relate where you re coming from. There Is a whole range of ." disappointment" to experience Isn t there? I know , unfortunately, after what we have all experienced ours is the worst. Not to " bag" trophies or anything but it just is. You can t compare a few months of ttc to a few months of ttc post losing a baby. Many hugs to you.
I m not a " preachy" person but all I can say , through my experiences, is hang in there none of us know what's round the corner.( feel free to tell me to shut the Fu** up!!!) we will all get there we deserve to. Hugs xxxx