TTC 6+ months plus, part 2

[skeletonbones]

New thread as the old one was getting to 1000. So, 4 BFP's in the last thread, lets see if we can up the total considerably on this one :)

Afternoon everyone,

Have been steering clear of MN for a few days and I almost missed the BFP! Congrats Biscuits, your news combined with my GP telling me that DH is "normal" and I am ovulating gives me much more hope that we will manage to do this eventually . Must remember this feeling the next time AF turns up....

SWI this month proving tricky with my mother staying in the room downstairs. I think I mentioned before that she is internet dating and she went out on Sunday for the afternoon so dh was told in no uncertain terms that we needed to make the most of an empty house .

Have completely lost track of who is close to me cycle wise this month. I think that I am due to ovulate around Thursday or Friday. We're away for a long weekend with friends so who knows if we'll be able to stick to the schedule. There will be no fewer than 6 children on this trip, but thankfully there will be one or two other couples who are not up-duffed. If they both turn up with bumps then I'll really struggle to stay happy and chatty for the whole weekend.

pixie I have had periods start and stop. It is so upsetting because you can't really relax into knowing that you're out for this cycle and start looking forward to the next.

euro and pout who would have thought that we would ever see constipation as a good sign????? I have well and truly lost it

I always seem to have spots - have been hoping that my skin will clear up when pg. A girl can dream.......

Hello Joycep I don't trust cramps any more as a sign of good things after last month. In fact I was thinking today what sign exactly would get me properly excited and concluded that I would have to be throwing up regularly, grow Jordanesque sized boobs & be craving eating the roof tiles.

It's funny that you think you are out this month because you don't have boob pain. I am convinced that I'm out because I have exactly the same pattern of boob pain and lumpy thing that comes up. The boob thing really confuddles me!

I got a spot yesterday and was like YES! I must add a caveat here that I pretty much always have a few spots so I would need to see something a lot more spectacular on that front too and sadly my complexion is looking better than normal!

We haven't found a new house yet and there is nothing to even phone up about this week to get told in no uncertain terms that dogs aren't permitted and the landlord would rather offer a house share to Rab C Nesbitt & Beelzebub himself. We have 7 weeks left and I am really worried to the point of heart racing when I think about it. I have this stupid idea that if I could either get pregnant or find a house the other would fall into place - like breaking the spell of bad luck.

I'm glad that your test results were all normal Madness you will just have to get all BFP'ed up now because you CAN!

I don't know how you are managing with your Mum around all the time. By day 3 of my Mum I am usually found hiding in the kitchen gurning and doing silent about to combust faces to DP.

The pregnant glowing thing. I fully expect to be one of those ladies who just looks ill for the whole time and puffed up like a walrus rather than having a tidy bump and earth mother beauty thing going on.

I agree Pout - in fact , a bfp would be an excellent sign. I have been prodding boobs in front of my boss' son today ( I hope he doesn't think I am sending him signals) and I notice they are slightly sore now. But since going on progesterone supps they're not as bad.
I am really sorry about your house situation - that is just really stressful . Landlords always seem to refuse pets don't they. But you do have somewhere to go if the worst comes to worst don't you? I am sure everything will work for you both and hope it's not getting you down too much.

Well I got in a bait in John Lewis just now. I had to walk through the baby dept to get to haberdashery (I'm not an old granny promise) - really want to be able to buy toys and diddy outfits!!

Thought I?d take a break from work to try to catch up a little bit.

It is indeed very exciting to see someone get up-duffed naturally after a fairly long time ? hope where it was needed most. Well done Biscuit - manly pats, as Skeleton says. Don?t leave us too soon, I know sometimes people worry about upsetting those still TTC but we need you to stay to rub your pregnancy hormones off on us a little bit . The nice strong line is great news ? surely only 249 days to worry about now . I know what you mean about the BFP being a good thing even if something sadly goes wrong (fingers crossed of course that it doesn?t) ? knowing you can get pregnant in the first place is a huge first hurdle to get over, and you?ve proved that part, whatever happens next. What worries me is that we have never had a BFP at all, so have no idea if it will ever work, but as you suggest will keep hoping for the best.

I hope your brother is ok peace and has been stitched back together nicely!

Very frustrating about your AF coming and going, Pixie - as if it wasn?t all hard enough. I?ve had spotting start then disappear again, but not full on period. Not what you needed, I?m sure.

I feel left out of the bunged up feeling Euro/Pout so I hope selfishly it?s not a 10DPO symptom . By which I mean of course that I hope we are ALL pregnant so the complete lack of any other symptoms are the ACTUAL symptom?.which makes no sense at all I?m sure. Like you I am curious as to why I have no spots when normally there are always one or two brewing (spots AND wrinkles ? who know life could be so unfair). Aside from that I currently have a small twinge in my right hand side (like ovary pain) but am not taking it to mean anything. Spotting could start any time now, I have it for anything from 2 to 4 days before my period starts proper, so I?ll keep blindly hoping this is my month, until inevitably it turns up. Which it will, I?m sure. Oh well, I didn?t want to be pregnant by the time I turned 37 anyway .

There are loads of us around the same cycle stage by the looks of it, Joycep too. at you prodding your boobs in front of the bosses son!

Good luck with your mum madness, she sounds as trying interesting as mine!

Better get back to work for now. I guess though I?m now on knicker-watch. Oh the glamour.

Evening ladies,

Peace hope your brother is doing OK.

Euro / Pout / Nelly / Joyce I am so hoping that your various symptom spotting and boob prodding pays off. Hopefully your boss's son didn't mind too much

Madness I understand only too well the parental impact on ttc. We lived with my in-laws for 4 months during the time we've been ttc and literally every time they went out I'd have to make sure DH was home from work. But honestly between DS and the in-laws it was kind of hard to find the time .

Apologies for the radio silence today - had my mum with me so didn't want to be on MN in case she spotted me and asked why I would have a need to be on a conception discussion board......

Anyway, then we were looking at a few photos I had taken of DS today on my phone and she started scrolling across the photos... and of course came across the one i had taken of yesterday's pee stick - eeek!

I did tell her everything in the end and why we were worried etc and she understood. I hadn't really wanted to tell anyone at this stage (since I am yet to fully adapt to the idea myself) but I know she understands what we went through with the mc and I suppose we are where we are. O was a bit disappointed that she didn't seem a bit more pleased - not even a 'congratulations'! Still.....

I also felt weirdly down today from an odd email. You may recall how I got everyone to look at yesterday's pee stick to confirm my eyesight. Well, I had been using this monitor thing for temperature charting and they obviously see all the charts etc. So yesterday they emailed and said (basically) your chart looks like a pregnant person's, have you done a test? So I said well, yes I have actually, one of those that you sent me with the monitor, but it isn't clear one way or the other - what do YOU experts think of it. Now I was fully expecting a 'Yay - a line is a line!!', but instead today I got an email saying 'It is not a positive, but you are right; there is a faint line, which may indicate that your hormones are not quite high enough yet. I would suggest taking another test tomorrow as this would have given a chance to your body to produce more HCG'. Weirdly that made me feel really deflated when they said 'it is not a positive' and like I had jumped the gun. So I have resolved to test approximately every day now if not a little more often.

Anyway, I have my line on my FR which was better. I think I will do another of their tests tomorrow morning to see if I get a stronger line now it is 2 days later. I am eagerly awaiting the arrival of 6 CBD tests from Amazon and I will be much happier if can convince one of them and it will tell me in WORDS what I am so desperately hoping for! I might even feel confident enough to arrange a booking in appointment by then (I know it doesn't happen until 8 weeks, I just mean to actually phone and book one!)

Wowsers, what a long ramble.

Hope everyone else is ok

xxx

I've never heard of anyone saying a line is not a positive before! V odd. the strength of the line is relevant to LH surges (on some brands the line needs to be darker than the control) but I always understood that on a PG test any second line is a positive.

I'd ignore the email if I were you.

Yes Euro, that's what I thought - like the LH thing matters for ov testing so on some you have to have a darker line, but I always thought a line was a line when it came to PG tests.

Pah - fertility experts! Could you GET a bunch of people more knowledgeable about fertility than we have here?

They are just trying to make you buy more tests Biscuits. Ignore the clueless "experts", and listen to us.

I doubt it Biscuit, that's what I thought too!

Thanks for the reassurance that I'm not the only one with experience of an af that doesn't know whether it's coming or going . Hopefully next month will be much more settled (breathes deeply in anticipation...)

Hope your brother's feeling better soon Peace
Good work on the boob prodding Joycep
Don't work too hard Nelly

On my own tonight with the cat as DP's away with work. He's booked his SA appointment though - woohoo!

Hi all - just a quick one to say a) AF arrived (but not in a way that surprise me so I'm not as massively depressed as normal fine and b) we go to Malta tomorrow! I'm going to find the fertility shrine that mrsden told us about and pray for us all xx

Purple I want notes and tips please. I am off there in a few weeks!

Hi ladies and sticky bean!

I'm getting seriously annoyed now, i'm on cycle day 52!! 27dpo!! AND no AF!! Had bloods done on fri and will need to wait up to 2 weeks for results. I'm just so upset, weve been told we need to wait 18 months but clearly something is wrong now!

Have a fantastic holiday purple. I hope you find the grotto, it is filled with baby clothes from people who had a baby after visiting the shrine and is lit only with candles. Even if you don't believe, I reckon lighting a candle and saying a few words for us all on this thread can't do us any harm! I would be so grateful if you could light one for me. You might have to ask a local to find it but from memory it is near the main church in Mellieha. Sorry Af had to show up, I hope it won't spoil your holiday.

biscuits that was a definite line, ignore that stupid email. Congrats again!

also forgot to say that there are lots of stories of people calling their little girls variations of Mellieha after they got pregnant after visiting the shrine!

izzybizzybuzzybees hi - my 'average' cycle is currently 45 days :( have had day 21 tests done - which said i didnt ovulate and then a test - one week before period to check progesterone which they said was ok - thats it - ok, but they have sent a referal letter to the consultant for me, aparently i just wait for that now, have been trying for 8 months now and i am 33 and hubby 35. I wouldnt mind so much but my cycle was pretty regular - prob about 30 - 32 days before having my coil removed! and it was a standard coil - no hormones involved!!

jeesh, oh well, just have to keep trying and see what comes around.

x x

Joycep Do you dress make or knit or something like that? How old is your boss's son? I have visions of you groping your chest in front of some hormonally charged teen!!!

Enjoy your holiday Purple I'm so jealous! Still maybe I can pull up a deckchair in front of the neighbours bag of building sand and pretend

Izzy Have the doctors indicated what they think might be going on with your long cycle? What is the blood test for? A two week wait for results is just ridiculous.

Biscuit I would also say ignore that e-mail. I agree with Nelly that they are trying to make you buy more tests. I think that we all on here know exactly what a negative test looks like. They certainly don't have a definite pink line like yours. It was clearly visible even on the photo on the internet, absolutely not a squinter!

I'm sorry that you Mum wasn't as enthusiastic as you would have liked, maybe she was just a bit shocked stumbling across the photo of a pee stick! We are all totally chuffed for you on here

Did you do another test biscuits? Not that I think you need to because that was one of the clearest BFPs I've seen on a photo. I understand why you feel anxious though, I was thinking today that if I ever do get a BFP I will be convinced that something will go wrong and will be a complete bag of nerves. For those of us who have struggled to conceive it's not just a case of trying again next month.

I think I might have turned a corner. I got sent a scan photo today and I didn't collapse into a sobbing heap . My friend had her scan on Mon so emailed me the photo, I opened the attachment and didn't cry woo hoo!! I still don't understand why people send the photos to people though, they all look the same don't they?

Morning MrsD. I did test again this morning (third day on the trot). The first morning I had that internet cheapie that I made everyone look at for me. Then yesterday I did a First Response which had a strong line, then today I did another internet cheapie which had a line stronger than the first day, but not as strong as the FR one. Still, they are bound to vary from brand to brand and from test to test so I'm not fretting about it too much (honest!).

You're right I am a bag of nerves about it - as you say it wouldn't be a matter of 'oh, maybe next month', but I am thinking positively (or trying to) and taking each day one at a time.

That's really good and strong of you to not cry at the scan picture. I find myself welling up when I drop DS off at nursery and we have to walk through the baby room to get to his room (both while ttc and even now post bfp!).

Hope everyone else is doing ok this morning. I'm waiting to hear more BFPs please :)

Aargh just did a big post on iPhone then lost it!

Biscuits can't believe that stupid email! All ttc ladies know that any line is a positive.

Purple I hope you have a lovely holiday and get to go to the shrine. It is really nice of you to think of saying a little prayer for everyone on the thread, thank you. I think it would make me a bit teary.

Hi to everyone else and hope you are all well. I'm gearing up for ovulation day. Hoping it will fall on the weekend so we can have some relaxed SWI rather than knackered tuesday night mechanical shagging.

I'm gearing up for ovulation too I think popcorn, this is always the bit in the cycle when I feel the happiest. Before I realise it's another fail month. Where did you order the pine bark from? I've tried looking for some in the chemist here but no luck so think I'll have to order it off the internet.

biscuits 3 BFPs is fantastic

Good luck with you SWI efforts MrsD and Popcorn

Hi mrsd

I ordered the pine bark from a website called earthrise foods. It was dispatched yesterday so I'm hoping it'll be there when I get home tonight, I'll let you know.

I paid about £50 for 120 tablets of 150mg. I didn't look around that much but I was looking for some higher dose tablets and these seemed to be ok value for the dose.

X x

Thanks biscuits! Here's hoping one of the swimmers manages its epic journey! X

My appointment saga continues.

I phone the hospital to follow up on the appointment (this is after I called the GP to follow up and found out that the hospital could find no trace of the referral made 6 weeks earlier...).

Called the number the GP?s Receptionist gave me - can?t see the appointment. It might have been sent over to outpatients.

Call outpatients - can?t see it. It might have been sent ?upstairs? to be scanned (whatever the f--- that means). Says it was only sent last week as it was sent on 18 July. When I say it was originally sent on 8 June she says ?well I can?t answer for that?. Helpful.

Give me another number. That person only works 9-12. So I have to wait until tomorrow to call them.

The NHS just needs completely dismantling. I was about to say and putting back together again but I am going to leave it at that. Grrrr.

At least we have the option of throwing money at it and going private. What about the people that have no choice but to put up with this sh1t? The service is really just appalling. I pay a huge amount in tax, rarely use the NHS and when I need it, get lost in the admin.

Meh. Sorry. Just wanted to rant.

Oh Euro that is so frustrating. I am a huge believer in universal health care, but that doesn't mean that it always works well. Phone tag and people passing the buck is just about the most frustrating thing there is.

I am having a very low day today. Found out yesterday that my best friend is moving overseas with her family - and they're leaving in October :( I know that I moaned about putting up with her all the way through her most recent pregnancy and how hard I found it when she gave birth, but I've gotten past it and both yesterday and today my mum and I went round to take the newborn for a walk so that she could have some quality time with her 3 year old ds. Have had him for sleepovers many times and had so many plans of what we were going to do together when he got bigger. I'm an only child and my dh's sister swears that she's never having any (40 now so she doesn't have long to change her mind!) so we've taken on the role of aunt and uncle with these kids and I can't believe that they'll be gone in just a few months. They're not from the UK originally so I always knew that this might happen, but they just registered their ds for a new nursery and I thought we had at least a few more years.

She is also going to make me break my rules about having no baby stuff in the flat, because she says that they're putting together a box of maternity clothes and baby things that they want us to have. It is lovely of her, but I don't want a box of nice things, I want my best friend to be here to help me through either a pregnancy or fertility treatment.......... [selfish and self-pitying emoticon]

Doesn't help that I think this move is a terrible idea because she will end up at home alone with two kids and a husband who has to commute to and from work, having given up her permanent teaching posts in the uk.

Well done to anyone who made it to the end of this! Has all taken me by surprise and I will be much less emotional about it in a few days.