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Sixth Form Common Room part III - post mc ttc & pregnancy

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ZamMummyInGabs · 21/05/2011 17:27

Hoping to continue the trend of the lucky thread....

OP posts:
Ladybee · 03/08/2011 04:18

Hi ladies,
AF kicked in properly so I'm on day 4 now and feeling that glimmer of positivity that always comes as the beginning of a new cycle, maybe this will be the one? I had a terrible down this time, thanks everyone who picked me and set me back upright. I had a big howl at DH, the usual stuff - feeling alone in the grief, feeling alone in trying for no.2, feeling frustrated that our attempts are rather feeble. He did finally promise that we could 'try harder' this month and every month after until we get pg again. Which was good. He also asked a very good question - "what do you expect having another child will do?" It is a good question, and I do often wonder whether I pin so much on getting a successful pg and my wish granted than I might be setting myself up for a tremendous fall if it actually happens and I struggle. I had a brush with PND with DS and don't feel like I enjoyed his babyhood anywhere near as much as I good have. I do often feel guilty that part of my wanting no.2 is so that I 'do it better' the second time around. Oh dear. Anyway, it was good to have the talk and now I feel like I can be more upfront about expecting more sex in those crucial days.

battery I'm really very sorry that you don't have that opportunity to be reassured about the clotting medication level. And that you feel your body rejected a healthy pregnancy. That's a very painful thing to come to terms with. I'm very interested to hear how you get on with your consult with S tomorrow. Good luck for that.

mouse and digi hope the cycle oddities sort themselves out soon.

Oh mummyA sometimes I lurk on the 40s thread (it makes me feel happy to know that even though I'm getting ancient, it doesn't cut me out of the game completely) and there is a woman there who was recently told she had scar tissue. Can't remember her name off-hand but if you were to drop you might recognise it, or if not might be able to help?

Dachs that's brilliant, it's amazing what a difference to your confidence successfully negotiating that sort of thing can make. I was always very very nervous driving in London and every time I did it made me feel like I deserved a prize. Really hope that those 6 follies all give nice good quality eggs so you get a good stash to freeze as well as transfer.

TomboyWife that's sooooooo annoying! Argh! if he'd just told you a bit earlier you could have made other arrangements with more time to spare. Damn, I'm really sorry this is turning into a nigtmare for you. Seems you're not alone with waiting a long time for the WTF cycle to be over, hang in there.

thanks for the lovely baking freezing, I'm trying to avoid too many sweet treats as with the cafe culture over here it's far too easy to consume cake or muffins with every coffee!

I'm making good headway with the boxes but something quite unexpected arose from having our stuff appear. I think it contributed to my down mood as well - every time I would take a piece of glassware or a photo out from the box I'd get a little flash of where it had been in our old house. And then get a flash of one of too many sad memories of crying in the kitchen or standing in the hallway telling DH it was over (again). By bringing all the things over, I have a mad paranoid feeling that I've brought our bad luck over too. It's nonsense, I know, especially seeing it's not luck, it's genetics/medical conditions and those are the same one either side of the planet. Anyway, I'm trying to look at it more positively now that I'm making this house into a proper home for our family and setting it right for a new member to join us. I think AandR might approve ; )

randomimposter · 03/08/2011 07:54

Hi all

Sorry I've been missing and lurking and then missing again for some while. I'm sorry for all the bad news and sad times here at the moment.

Interesting to read bee's description of the positive aspects of the possibilities of a new cycle beginning. I don't feel any of that. I just feel totally pissed off at the failure of yet another pregnancy attempt.

Which is where I am now really, CD2 after an usually longer cycle sent in as a curve ball to raise your hopes and then piss on your chips.

I've said and typed several times that I'm starting to adjust to the thought of having just DS. But I don't really mean it, the mere thought makes me feel sick. But I better start doing just that. I'm very lucky to have him I know, and if the future doesn't reflect quite how I'd wanted it, well sobeit.

So I'm going to have a break from MN as I have literally nothing to say about TTC any more. I've taken myself off the Common Room list, it's become a bit defunct anyway so may just fade away.

I'm so grateful and appreciative of the support and understanding on here (and the MC threads I was on before). I've been hanging around for nearly 2 years now and I've learned loads, laughed a lot and cried a fair bit too.

But I'm all done, time to say tarra for a bit. Hopefully I'll pop back on to say woohoo at some point, but I hope that you'll all be graduated by then. Some of you I know on FB now, but if not all the best and the very best of luck in your lives and loves. x

batteryhen · 03/08/2011 08:19

grabs onto jolls departing legs.

Jolls - I completely understand where you are coming from,sometimes a break is just what you need to pep you up. You have been wonderful to all the ladies on here, always there to offer advice and a squeeze. We will miss you but will whoop! with you when you return xxx

Morning all -just about to leave for appointment with Mr S. I have jeans and a flowery summer top on. I hope he doesn't sling me out for being under dressed

Waves to bee and freezing I will catch up with your posts later xx

mousebacon · 03/08/2011 09:38

Oh Jolls, I'm so sorry to see you go. I agree that sometimes a break from MN is the best option but you know where we are if you have a wobble. You have been so kind to me on here and always have good advice. I totally understand why you've made the decision (and have toyed with the idea myself more than once) but I just wanted to wish you lots of luck, enjoy the summer and do come back for your 'woohoo' moment. xxx

Looks like another body fail for me this month. Having been dure I'd ovulated my temp this morning is below the coverline - so not just a temporary dip yesterday - and I have no idea what is going on. If I am post ov then progesterone is not doing it's job and if I'm not post ov then where the hell is my egg?!!

Sorry to post and run, just wanted to reply to Jolls really x

digitalgirl · 03/08/2011 11:33

jolls so Sad to read that message from you. But I hope the MN break allows you to focus on enjoying life with DS. Its been a similar journey for me and I think you're making a very sensible and brave choice to start contemplating life beyond ttc. Looking forward to one day stumbling across that 'Woohoo' post.

battery good luck with Mr S today!

ladybee glad you've got a renewed enthusiasm after last week's gloom. And so pleased to hear your DH is taking more of an interest in it. I imagine he's been very distracted with the move and the new job and has the luxury of not having a monthly cycle to remind him of the ups and downs of ttc.

tomboy how bloody annoying! Can he/you not get someone else to help him work quicker? Sorry if you've already thought that.

mouse oh blast. Are you sure your temps were definitely above your usual coverline? I've had a cycle a few months ago where my temps were quite high pre-ov and I got my hopes up thinking it had happened unusually early. But positive opk recently must mean ov is potentially imminent surely? Was it definitely as dark or darker than the control - I've had lots of what I thought were pos opks but turned out to be false pos once I compared them with a genuine positive which was almost darker than the control.

As for me. Temp still weirdly static despite roasting nights, DS being unsettled in our bed and me not sleeping very well. Really don't want to test this cycle...as the BFNs got me so down last cycle. But my LP is 16 days long and I'm only supposed to take the steroids for a maximum of 14 days if I'm not pg. Oh well, I'm sure by tomorrow I will have convinced myself that I can handle another bfn and it's best to 'get over it' earlier.

DeterminedToGetDiffedDachs · 03/08/2011 11:40

So the follicles are growing steadily, apart from one which seems to have stopped so now I've only got 5 follies. Waste of bloody time and money - there's no chance of getting pg if i only have 5 follies :(

Egg collection likely to be Monday, might be Wednesday. Have another scan on Friday so will know more then.

DeterminedToGetDiffedDachs · 03/08/2011 11:43
Youremindmeofthebabe · 03/08/2011 13:35

Oh jolls. So sorry to hear that you have made this decision. But you need to do what's right for you and your family.

Never say never dachs. It's easy to be optimistic when removed from the situation though.

Freezingmyarseoff · 03/08/2011 14:09

Jolls I totally understand wanting to take a break, but very sorry to see you go from here. I'll be lined up with battery whooping away if you return though.

Oh so sorry to hear that Dachs. We're here to support you whatever.
I'm still staying optimistic for you though, on your behalf

Thanks for the yummy cakes - I can't say no to a lemon drizzle

Oh Mouse Confused I'm afraid I can't really offer any advice with your temps or anything, sometimes we just make it harder for ourselves with all the analysis of any possible sign and sympton. Perhaps we all need to talk about something completely different.

Battery will be thinking of you today (sorry can't remember if you said when the appointment was). It's far too hot here so sounds like a lovely flowery top is just the ticket.

Ladybee I'm glad you feeling a bit better. It must be hard unpacking everything, and thinking about it all, but exciting too that you are starting again in another country. Sometimes though, I think it really is good to have a proper cry.

Waves to everyone else, must dash I've got a mountain of washing up to do [annoying] before going swimming Grin

mousebacon · 03/08/2011 15:19

Hello again, thanks for the advice digi I'm not 100% convinced of my most recent +ive OPK so maybe I should just discard that? I've definately not had any ewcm or anything.

I've made a chart for this cycle on fertility friend - take a look ladies, have I ovulated or not?!

my chart

Thanks!

MissTinaTeaspoon · 03/08/2011 17:08

Hi everyone. We've had a lovely day in the sunshine, back to rain tomorrow though apparently!

How did it go battery?

Mouse I'm new to charting but could it be an implantation dip? Have you ever had your day 21 progesterone checked to make sure that it is staying high past ovulation? I would say that your first opk was probably right though from the temperatures. As I said though, I'm new to the charting thing!

Good luck with the testing if you decide to go for it Digi. This thread needs a bfp (no pressure or anything!) Wink

We're cycle buddies again then ladybee. I'm going to try the guaiphensin this month I think

Tomboy I think it's worth a trip to the GP, 7 1/2 weeks is a long time and maybe they can give you something to kickstart things.

Waves to yrmotb freezing and everyone else

TomboyWife · 03/08/2011 18:13

battery good luck with Mr Shehata! Fingers and all else crossed!

After much to-ing and fro-ing we've bought plane tickets. It's far from ideal as it means we can't take all sorts of stuff we wanted to take (like our bikes), but it seemed like the least worst option.

As for my cycle, there is a chance I could be pg already as we've been naughtily trying again (as much as it can be called "trying" when I had no idea when or if I ov'ed), but I've tested several times and it's always been a BFN. I haven't had my hCG tested officially, but the internet cheapy pg test was a faint positive 2 weeks post-mc and a negative when I tested again 3 weeks post-mc. So I think all is okay there. I guess if nothing happens while we're on holiday I'll phone the doctor when we get back.

In other news, it's effing hot here. I think I'm melting.

IzzyWizzyletsgetbusy · 03/08/2011 19:32

Oh jolls sorry to see you go (hoping it's not a permanent break), you have always been fab and very supportive to everyone on here and the ttc board. I do understand you wanting a break and starting to try to look beyond ttc, I wish you all the very best and will be hoping and praying that you're back very soon with that woohoo post xx

battery how did it go with Dr S?

dachs sorry it's not more on the follicles, but keeping everything crossed that you get what you need x

Apologies for brief post - Dd's 5th birthday here today, mad hectic but fun, all knackered now though!

tiggersreturn · 03/08/2011 19:45

jolls good luck with the break, I'd really recommend getting headspace from the whole ttc nightmare. I hope whatever the outcome is you're happy with it.

batteryhen · 03/08/2011 19:52

Hello everyone xx

JUst a quick update post as I have not long been home. Mr S was great, was only in there for about 30 minutes. he does think I may have an immune problem, so I have had my bloods tested today. He has started me on aspirin, pregnare care plus and vitamin d. He was a bit Angry that I was advised not to take aspirin until I had my first scan, I should be taking it all the time. As I have had lots of bloods already he only tested for immunity, and as I said I wanted to start ttc asap as work are going to send me away for 4 months, he is seeing me in 12 days for results and a plan.So thats it really, at least I don't have to wait for ages xx

just quickly mouse I think you have ov'd . In TCOYF she does say a dip or 2 below the cover line after ov means nothing. Also agree and hope it could be implantation dip :)

Will catch up tomorrow as I am knackered. London in the heat was traumatic!

Velvetcu · 03/08/2011 20:05

mousey dont want to get your hope up too much but your chart looks a bit familiar to me (my bfp chart here)

Glad you will soon have a plan battery

Jolls I understand your taking a break too. fx things work out for you soon.

digitalgirl · 03/08/2011 21:18

mouse it is a strange looking chart. It does look like you've ovulated - unless you had were ill for 4 days. But then the dip is a lot more prolonged than the usual one or two days. I usually double check with cervix position. If it's obviously closed then I'm usually certain I'm post-ov.

battery glad appointment went well, and really pleased he's fast tracking your results!

tomboy hope you have an amazing time!

I have spent most of today planning ds's 3rd birthday party. I got one of our Gfx designers to knock up a train ticket style invite for his Thomas themed party. Then bought £100 worth of decorations, tableware, partybag fillers and pass the parcel prizes! I do love a themed party!

mousebacon · 03/08/2011 23:17

Interesting ladies, very interesting. I suppose the only thing I can do is wait and see

Oh well, I'll keep you posted Smile

Really should go to bed now...

MummyAbroad · 04/08/2011 00:32

Jolls just want to add my thanks too for all the wonderful advice and support you have shown me. I totally understand the MN break, glad I can keep tabs on you via FB though Smile xxxx

mouse I add my vote to the "definitely ov'd" camp. I am hoping that that dip is a big fat implantation one too.

digi really hope its your turn this month. You are at the most nerve wracking bit of the 2ww. Everything crossed for you. Birthday sounds brilliant. I did a Mickey Mouse one for DS, you are right, nothing like a theme to make things fun Smile

Dach sorry about the lost follie. Does that really mean its over for this try? Is there a cut off number at which they wont proceed then?

battery yay for a plan! Glad Mr S is being really decisive and giving you concrete things to try.

Izzy hope you enjoyed DS's birthday, we will happily help you polish off the cake if there is any left over Grin

No fertility news from me but I did my first driving lesson today. Vroom vrooom! loads of fun! Grin

DeterminedToGetDiffedDachs · 04/08/2011 07:27

mummy yay for the driving lesson :). Glad it went well.

They will proceed with 5 follies, but the chances of getting a decent embie if I only have 5 is v v low.

randomimposter · 04/08/2011 09:46

you're all lovely :); babe, of course I'll still be on babynames, I've given up EastEnders, I need some downtime Grin

digitalgirl · 04/08/2011 11:14

Oh dachs really really hope you get at least one A class emby.

mummya well done on the driving lesson. Are you hoping to take the practical test before you pop?

I managed not to test this morning (10dpo) - which is something of an achievement for me as I was woken up with some horribly painful cramps v early this morning. And af not due till next Thursday. My reasoning is - if I am pg I'd rather pretend I wasn't for a few more days as knowing early always makes it harder. And if I'm not pg then I'd rather pretend I might be for a few more days. In light of Mr S's advice for battery I started taking aspirin again last night (had a three week break) as I reckon lining must be at it's thickest by now. So I'm on all the pills I'm supposed to be on now - met, aspirin, pred, vit d, pregnacare plus. Rattle rattle.

MissTinaTeaspoon · 04/08/2011 14:13

Have a great holiday Tomboy, after all your recent stresses you deserve it!

Hopefully your cramps are the start of something good Digital, fx for you.

Dachs I'm sorry that your follicles aren't cooperating, I'm still optimistic on your behalf though, good luck for tomorrow x

Glad you're enjoying the driving mummya :)

Glad the appointment went well battery

Thanks for all the sweet treats :), I've got some proper French macarons in the oven if anyone wants one (from a kit that my sister brought me back from France, I've always been too nervous to try to make the real things from scratch but it wasn't too bad with the kit so I may look for recipes online :)) In other news, this period looks like it'll be hanging on for a while, it's still heavy and it's a week tomorrow since the spotting started! Grrr Angry

DeterminedToGetDiffedDachs · 04/08/2011 16:01

oooh - yum - macaroons :)

mousebacon · 04/08/2011 21:21

Have had an epiphany! Maybe the thermometer is on the blink! New one on order from amazon... I actually tested my temp with DS's digi ear thermometer then compared it to what my thermometer said and there was a world of difference. I've been temping for 5 years with it now...

I'm having cramps too digi let's both hang on a bit longer eh? Grin

Got fingers crossed for some A grade follies dachs

Glad the appointment went well battery I've got asprin on stand by in the event of a BFP - the medical folk said it wouldn't do any harm so it's another thing for me to pin some hope to.

Waves to all x

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