Freak out room for those newly updiffed after MC to hold hands and support each other...

[DachshundsWantPuppies]

Hello!

Newly updiffed and freaking out about spotting, cramping, the wait until your first scan and each little twinge? Settle in for lots of hand holding and supprt until you're ready to move to grads

Hugs to those trying to hold it together on a low-no symptoms day. I really feel for you.

My symptoms are so subtle on the 'good days' that I swear if I wasn't looking for them I wouldn't notice them at all. I can have a busy day and suddenly wonder where the hell have all my symptoms gone.

I went to acupuncture today and my acpuncturist asked me what sort of symptoms I'd been feeling, to which I blathered on about tingling and 'just knowing' and not being crampy enough. I've never had sore boobs and not really ever had much ms (about a week of it while pg with DS, but was on holiday so it could have been the travel and unfamiliar surroundings). He reassured me that symptoms are completely beyond our control. I'm fit & healthy, all the rmc tests have come back normal, chances are the last pg was genetically determined from the outset and nothing would have changed the outcome.

And then he put a bunch of needles in me to relax me. And offered weekly sessions, instead of the usual fortnightly ones, bearing in mind my history. I felt very clear-headed afterwards...and contrary to my last sessions in pregnancy, still felt very much pregnant afterwards. Which has got to be a good thing.

Can any of you worriers get to an acupuncturist who specialises in fertility? It may help to have something to go to in between scans. Feels productive, yet is v relaxing at the same time. I know massages and reflexology aren't really recommended in the first trimester, but quite a few IVF clinics prescribe acupuncture in the first trimester as although its not known why, it has been shown to improve success rates. (I personally think its part of the TLC thing).

You're all batty

Digi that sounds like a lovely relaxing thing to do. I've had acupuncture before & found it very good. I think the TLC thing is so important. I had a few massages (neck and shoulders) which were really welcome.

Pink Yay for the good scan! They're 120 quid where I live and it was 180 quid for the nuchal one so I am now skint and cannot afford any more - boo.

Knitter apparently in China magpies are a good luck bird :)

knitter you are just like me looking for omens all over the place. I was the same with the pink balloon although if this preg is Ok and I have a girl I'll be totally spooked out! I think the human subconscious decides on whether to look for a positive or negative sign and that's what we focus on - there were probably 2 other magpies that you didn't see

digital I was thinking about acupuncture before my BFP but done know if I should still try and go even though I am preg now?

Just back from the doctors. It was just a random GP so just said my piece and he re-tested me. I swear time stood still while we were waiting on the result and I thought - christ what if it was a mistake . I also chuckled when he asked how many tests I had done! I had only done 1 this time!

He told me to make an appt with the MW and it's next Friday (25th). I have booked my private scan for Sat 26th when I should be 6+3. I may change the MW appt to after the scan though

Emoo big squeeze, fx for your scan on Fri

knitter I believe in that one too, which is a real pain in the arse because in November one took up resident opposite my office! You know when you see a solitary magpie you can override that by saluting him, makes you look a bit daft but...

Dachs you daft bugger, I asked about bookface the other day and no-one responded so I assumed you all had really bad profile pic's I'll pm you in a sec

at nix eating healthy food when the rest of us are using it as an excuse to stuff our face's with crap!! I'm ok chicadee, so wiped out by 7pm most nights and up to my eyes in legal paperwork for the business blah blah.

pink great news on the scan... you got a sticky one there

Digi so glad the acupuncture was a success. I was planning to go as have used it for other area's of health improvement and wellbeing but with moving to a new area their seemed little point in starting... perhaps when we are moved and settled I'll try and get a rec for a good one.

wombat other than counting down days until your scan, how's it going?

pmsl at sleepy (love) worrying about following through... we're all checking for red, you're checking for brown... class

Hi Daisy anything but bouncy, perky and little fluffy bunny rabbits in here, pull up a beanbag

Owl glad us crazy lot keep you amused

wakari hope the booking in apt went well and you've got a scan booked.

Hairy thinking of you lots if you're lurking

Have you been spoilt today orange ?

Lemon and HK you two ok?

I think that's everyone, sorry if I missed someone!

Dinner time... my tummy is a rumbling

PS was it one of you here asking about the business?? If it was, it's progressing, everyday brings a delightful new legal document for me to enjoy!! Still aiming for end of March fx!

Good evening all. Am fine just counting down the days till my scan. I kept putting it off because I wanted to be sure will see a heartbeat. Getting to the stage now when I lost the last one. So anxiety levels are getting high. Scan will be on Thursday afternoon. Would feel better if I felt pregnant.Keep telling myself it will be OK.

lemon sweetie I know what you mean about not feeling pg - FX for your scan. :) I'm sure it'll be fine

oh, Facebook - am not this stupid really, must be the hormones ....

PM me too!!!! If you want to that is . Am FB junkie, although suspect MN is taking over

And big hugs for you loonies....would love to chat more, but have DD tramping around upstairs when the little bugger should be in bed.

Oh ffs! Clearly I am hormonal but you'd think my own mother would feckin stop trying to pick a fight with me. Just tried to tell her about the scan we had yesterday and before I could even finish my sentence she starts going on about how I shouldn't think about it too much as all my worrying is 'bad for the baby'. I'm so fucking sick of people telling me not to worry. Everyone's got a fucking opinion on how I'm supposed to think and feel about this pregnancy as though those things are under my control and if I dare let any negative thoughts contaminate my mind that it'll be my fault if it goes wrong.

All i said was, I had a scan yesterday and it was too early to see a heartbeat so I'm going back next week for another one.

oh dear digi (((hugs))). She's your mum hon, I'm sure it was well intentioned based on the fact she is worried sick for her daughter and doesn't want to see you suffer any more heart ache and in her head thinks 'no stress and worry equals bean will stick'.
Everyone does have an opinion but at the end of the day it's none of their business, I just tend to avoid conflict by smiling sweetly or agreeing and thinking to myself F**k you, i'll do what I want how I want... it's the path of least hassle...or you could get their pictures and starting pinning them to dart boards and developing a really good aim chin up xx

WEll said MP, love the dart board idea...

I went a little public yest....
with a person anyway :)
Off to HQ in a bit so will see if anyone notices chunky monkey!

So fecking tired...5 times DS had me up int he night... even though i was asleep by 9pm im still shagged- gah! roll on end of virus.

Thanks for all the birthday messages my first sober birthday :) was just a nice meal in a local pub with a few friends - exactly what I needed. Mamap I think it's my stomach that wakes me, though don't know why so early yesterday, 33 is hardly a big occasion!

I've discovered the only thing I can drink is ribena, all day all night

Dachs it's so worrying but everyone's different, I didn't puke until dead on 8 weeks and then it's been every day since, 4 times yesterday. Am sure you'll be hurling in no time. You saw a heartbeat that's such a good sign , try to remember that
Love I hope this is an uneventful Weds, and Friday comes quickly to give you a nice reassuring scan. The wait truly us awful x
Nix wow @ 15+2 and good news on the healthy cravings. So, that isn't crispy salad with iced bun then?!
Pink yay for the scan! Yeah, the wait between 12 and 20 is bit looong. I'm hoping to have a private one later just for a nice pic as it'll be better quality 3D etc. But for some reason worry I'll be tempting fate - only me, noone else!
Knitter I'm the same with magpies step away from the test, they only seem to cause trouble when the pg progresses
Lemon thinking of you for Thursday I hope today goes quickly

Is it wrong I'm already looking forward to going to bed tonight?!

Gah my zen up and left me in the night and I'm in a total panic this morning. Sod 13 days, am going to try and arrange an earlier scan. May as well know sooner than later.

oh wombie Hope you manage to arrange a scan for reassurance, but FX everything is fine

I think zen is like symptoms. Some days it's there, some days it just buggers right off and leaves you in the lurch.

Bloody evil zen!!!

Orange 33? You youngster, you.

Digi My normally very understanding mother has completely failed to comprehend why I am so wary about just skipping about sprinkling babydust and buying cots despite me explaining it numerous times. This is because she managed to have 3 kids with no mishaps and I think she just can't understand - as people generally can't - the complete lack of faith it gives you in your body. She seems to think that because I am now up the duff again I can just forget about the mc. Er...no.

I am like a sleepwalking zombie full of rage this morning. It is not a pretty sight.

Digi I don't think people realise how much what they are saying affects us really. When I told my mum that I was feeling sick quite early on, she said "that's probably the steroids" - and I got mad about that. I want it to be the baby, not the steroids! But I don't think people who've not been through what we all have realise exactly how much you go through and what it does to your head. I had one friend who after having one mc, said that she just cannot understand how I have managed to cope with 4. By going slightly mental, I think.

Wombat my zen left me for a while too. Talking to my therapist yesterday about how I was cacking my pants about my scan - she said that I had nothing to worry about, as I still have symptoms. She said I should see the scans as my friends and as something to help me through this. By the evening, my boobs weren't sore anymore, and I was thinking that I haven't felt that sick lately either. Woke up early flapping, then realised boobs are sore, but am still not feeling sick. In the end, thought *Fuck it", I can't stop another mc happening, can I? I am gonna be tapping like crazy today to try and not go mental. Big hugs to you, and if another scan helps, go for it.

Nix it's so lovely to hear that you are 15+2 - makes me smile..

Orange your bday sounds lovely.

Digi acupuncture sounds great too - had it once before, not for pg, and just remember how relaxed it made me. Feel like I need a treat soon - maybe that or I fancy trying a Dr.Haushka facial, mmmmmmm.

Right ladies, here's to a calm and uneventful Wednesday - I'll try no to eat an entire large bag of Tyrells crisps today xx

hugs for wombat

and thanks for messages about me snapping at my mum. feel a bit bad about it as I know she was only trying to offer some advice but she has no idea that you can't just tell someone who's had 3 mc's 'not to worry as worrying is bad for the baby'.

Currently cramping in a worrying way. But it's all in the front, so at least I'm feeling something.

Dachs thank you. How are you doing today?

Digi, Owl, big hugs re the unsupportive mothers. I'm sure they try to do their best [benefit of doubt emoticon] but just don't understand what we're feeling. I haven't even told my mother, about the MC or about this pg. Hope to get away with not doing so until 16-20 wks or whenever I get confirmation that bean is alive and has all its limbs...

Love I don't know how you and others coped with 4 either. I can't imagine I would have any sanity left. Huge hugs to you.

digi I've had lots of cramping on and off thoughout this pg... tmi but it always seems to turn out to be bowel-related rather than bean-related (although obv without bean my bowels are far better behaved! ).

Orange I'm with you on the wanting to be back in bed asap!! Still, the sun's just come out here so I should make the most of that.

Scan is booked for 3pm tomorrow.

Ooooh loving the hot chocolate

wombat big hug

I think that I may have found some of your zen BTW - feel perkier again today (if not particularly pregnant...) Did the CB Digital test last night and it very quickly came up with 'Pregnant 3+' which was very nice of it.

Told DH of my worries and he was about as supportive as a jelly bra. Asked me why I was thinking that... I told him and he shrugged his sholders and wandered off. A cuddle would have been nice. Then he had a grump about the 'would you invite your boss to stay the night' post I did on AIBU - acused me of living in a fantasy world and humphed himself off to bed.

orange glad you had a lovely birthday

digi does sound like one of those things that you'll just have to file away under 'means well'.

Knitter I'm glad someone is getting some use out of it!!!

Sorry about your DH not giving you the support you need. Here's a big hug from me (((((HUG)))))

Just hunted out you AIBU thread Knitter. For what it's worth I think YA totally NBU!!!

Thanks wombat you are a wise and sensible woman (and give lovely hugs :) )

wombie I have officially lost all zen but I'm too busy at work to mental at the moment. Not sure whether that's a good thing or a bad thing! DH definitely does NOT understand why I'm mentalling and keeps saying - 'why are you worried, we saw a heartbeat. Chill.' (Or words to that effect - I don't think he's ever actually said chill...) Yeah, as if that's going to happen any time in the next 33.5 weeks! And he keeps being useless around the house - why is it that men need to be told everything and can never see what needs doing without being told? So I keep being grumpy at him and he keeps stomping around sulking. When all I want is a hug and for him to get why I'm being so prickly!

Rant over :)

Hope everyone's ok today.

i've got another scan this afternoon... There is a reason - the doc was concerned about a potential blood clot near the sac with the viable embie in it so wanted to monitor it. It's NOT because I'm desperate to know whether there is any chance that pup2 could be viable. No, not me

good luck with scan later dachs and you tomorrow wombat

Cramping stopped. Lunch eaten. I now have to go and jump around with 15 x 4-5 year olds for three hours.

Dachs good luck for the scan this afternoon!!!! FX that the potential blood clots is resolving itself (and that pup2 is showing good progress too - how far along are you today??) xxx

Digi yey for the crampimg stopping. Not so yey about the 15 x 4-5 year olds for three hours