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78 replies

AmandaCooper · 10/01/2011 20:54

Starting on Channel 4 at 9pm. Who's watching with me? Grin

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Blu · 11/01/2011 10:55

It was sad that the screaming woman (who I think had decided in advance to do that and was deliberately giving it her all) was frightening Janet.
And Dreya, even screaming woman said she would do the same 'next time', so straight after all that she was considering 'next time'!
Dreya - I wasn't actually in pain at all, but still made quite loud 'heeeuuurgh' noises because of the sheer physicality of it.

Plenty of happy successful parents have kids because passion overtook contraception, even some real grown ups. Janet and Ralph are of childbearing age, legallu adults and have support - great to see Ralph so committed to his partner and child.

Ariesgirl · 11/01/2011 14:46

Well without wanting to sounds priggish, I'm of the opinion that if you're 18 and still in school then if you're having sex then you make darned sure you are using contraception.

Littlepurpleprincess · 11/01/2011 14:52

Whats with the bitchy comments about Janet and Ralph on here? They were a lovely couple (if a bit odd) and he was clearly head over heals in love with his child.

They are 18 fgs. Adults. And good on them for choosing to do higher education. Staying in education doesn't mean they stay children. A levels are for grown ups. Smile

Dreya · 11/01/2011 14:55

Thank you Ariesgirl & Blu. I also got teary eyed when Ralph came back into the room to see his son. That was really touching. I missed why he left in the first place. I thought Ralph and his girlfriend were really very sweet.

BroodyRhi · 11/01/2011 15:44

Same here, he was so visibly upset not to be there when his son was born, and Janet's mum was not very nice to him when he came into the room, "say hello to your son" and then left to cry without getting a cuddle. He should of been there and he wanted to be, when Janet's mum left he said so. Even being on the autistic spectrum he knew emotionally he wanted to be with his girlfriend as she gave birth to their son.

having seen the last series, Ralph was so much better than the "grown up" men. It was a 40 yr old who blew up the glove as a balloon! it is contemporary society that sees 18 as too young, but for years women and men have been becoming parents at this age. Ralph is doing A levels and is obviously highly intelligent if socially inept. Lots of people's contraception fails, it is only 99% effective.

As for the screamer! well, as some one who has not given birth even I knew that that was a tad excessive. just hope i do not become like this when I hopefully come to give birth.

Ariesgirl · 11/01/2011 17:05

Princess I don't think anyone has made bitchy comments. It was frustrating for a couple of posters who have been trying to a very long time to get pregnant with no success to see two 18 year olds, still at school, in there having a baby. Yes they were a lovely couple and as the show wore on I think many people warmed to Ralph in particular and wish them and their baby all the best wishes and luck in the world. But I have to disagree that A Levels are for adults. Some people are adults at 18: most people are more typical teenagers and would do better to wait starting a family. Accidents to happen, but they are considerably less likely if the couple in question uses contraception properly. I don't think anyone can disagree with that.

AuntieDoris · 11/01/2011 18:23

I asked my husband what he would do if I screamed like that during labour and he said "I would film it and out it on YouTube".

That's love for you!

AuntieDoris · 11/01/2011 18:24

out = put

Fairygodmother1 · 11/01/2011 19:23

Aww I loved the episode & had such sympathy for Ralph. I even cried with him! I did wonder where the hel his family were. I know when DH & I finally get pg there will be family on both sides banging down the door to see the baby - but maybe thats just the sort of families we come from.

The screamer is totally OTT!!! Even I know that you put all your energy into pushing. I've witnessed two births & they certainly didn't have that sort of noice! As someone said, car crash TV.

Fairygodmother1 · 11/01/2011 19:23

*noise!!!

Littlepurpleprincess · 12/01/2011 10:56

Why is it frustrating to see they have conceived but not the (slightly) older couple?

The comments were bitchy.

I can and do disagree. 18 year olds are adults.

Who says it was an accident and how is it any of your business if it was?

PrincessScrumpy · 12/01/2011 16:23

Just think, most of us would never dream of letting someone film it for all to see - so Dreya, no it is not normal.

Feel sorry for Ralph, I have a feeling his girlfriend doesn't like him very much. Mind you, I did tell dh to shut up during labour as he was being sarcastic about something. He was so shocked until he realised I was mid contraction! Smile

Ariesgirl · 12/01/2011 17:26

Calm down LittlePrincess and read the second sentence of my post. And do you honestly think that this was a planned baby? Really? And that they might make better parents as 18 year olds still in school than if they had waited a few years. The word judgemental is often used by people who are offended by other people's opinions, for some reason.

AlpinePony · 12/01/2011 17:55

Gosh poor Ralph - going to school every day, looking after the baby in the evening and then going out to work a night shift. :(

LeviStubbsTears · 12/01/2011 21:45

Dreya, I'm 38 weeks and was also a bit rattled by the screamer, but I think the subsequent posters are right - it's finding an extreme case to make good (?!) telly. It was reassuring to see that on One Born at Christmas, when they were confined to those who gave birth on Christmas day and couldn't be so selective, most of the births were relatively uneventful and looked much much smoother (and the women much calmer) than this one. They were mainly second babies, granted, but not all of them.

That's what I'm telling myself, anyway - though I am now tempted to start in the Delivery unit, rather than the midwife-led unit, to be closer to the epidural should it be necessary - so maybe I'm secretly (or not so secretly) getting really quite nervous! Good luck with yours, Dreya, and to all of you on here TTC. (I'm a (lucky) IVF case so know something of what you're going through.)

BlooferLady · 12/01/2011 23:00

Don't care what anyone says, I agree with Aries - if you're in your 30s and have been married for 10 years and are emotionally and financially ready to raise a family and can't seem to get a bun in your perfectly well-functioning oven no matter how hard you try, seeing teenagers getting thoughtlessly up the duff is very galling. This of course does not mean that a) that particular couple and b) other youngsters are not perfectly capable parents.

Littlepurpleprincess · 13/01/2011 12:57

No I don't think theirs was planned, and I don't think it matters. Their baby is obviously very much loved. He will probably be well looked after. He has a loving grandparent too.

I don't like how it's ok to be so prejustice against young parents. Give them a chance to get it right at least.

"you're in your 30s and have been married for 10 years and are emotionally and financially ready to raise a family and can't seem to get a bun in your perfectly well-functioning oven no matter how hard you try, seeing teenagers getting thoughtlessly up the duff is very galling"

It's is understandable that you feel that way but it is wrong to begrudge someone else something just because you can't have it too.

There are plenty of crap parents in their 30's and plenty of great parents in their teens, and vice versa.

FWIW, I had DS when I was 17. I was(and still am) in a long term, loving relationship with his dad, I was emotionally ready and I am a good parent, and we financially support ourselves. You don't need to be in your 30's to be any of the things you just listed.

Ariesgirl · 13/01/2011 13:22

Oh for God's sake. I wish people would stop willfully taking offence all over the place. It has been said quite clearly, and should be obvious to anyone who has spent much time on these boards, that TTC is not a rational activity. Blooferlady in particular said that she was not making any judgement on the capabilities of young parents, merely that she is someone who has been in this game a long, long time and the toll it takes on you is a great one. You start questioning everything about yourself. Time and again you read on these boards from women you know to be intelligent, reasonable and nice that they have just heard of a friend/relative getting pregnant and they are jealous and they can't help it. Without exception they get support and sympathy, and rightly so. No one is disagreeing that Janet and Ralph seemed like nice people and would probably be good parents (though there is no way viewers of a one hour TV programme can know that or not know that). However, you assert

"It's is understandable that you feel that way but it is wrong to begrudge someone else something just because you can't have it too" Just because?? Are you for real? Have you read any of the stories from women on here who have gone through months and months and years and years of perceived failure to get pregnant? So you had your kid at 17 and you supported yourself? Well done. Perhaps you could now start showing a bit of empathy for the women who are not finding it so easy to get pregnant as you did. "Just because you can't have it too"? I am fucking enraged by that comment.

Ariesgirl · 13/01/2011 13:23

Just realised the contradiction between my second and last sentences before anyone points it out.

BlooferLady · 13/01/2011 13:28

Thanks Aries.

Princess that was unkind and childish. A stable and loving mother you might well be, but you have a fuck of a lot to learn about compassion and wisdom to other women.

Littlepurpleprincess · 13/01/2011 13:29

Ariesgirl it is perfectly reasonable that women who can't concieve feel that way, that is not what I meant at all.

It is not ok to be blatantly prejudice against someone for their age because you are going through a hard time.

It's understandable that seeing other women having babies would be difficult, I just don't see what their age has to do with that.

Littlepurpleprincess · 13/01/2011 13:31

What about some compassion towards Janet then?

Ariesgirl · 13/01/2011 13:34

Read the thread.

BlooferLady · 13/01/2011 13:35

There was no unpleasantness or bitchiness towards Janet, you, or anyone else. There was the perfectly logical and reasonable observation that teenagers witlessly screwing without condoms might PERHAPS not have considered parenthood from QUITE the number of angles that grown women might have done. Jesus fucking Christ. You on the other hand have deliberately wounded people who are suffering something you thankfully wil never have to undergo. Lovely. You are as charming as your spelling is shite.

I'm going to piss off and wait for the mods to remove my post.

Ariesgirl · 13/01/2011 13:38

And where Princess, where did I say that she would be a useless parent? Nowhere! All I said was that they would probably have been better off waiting a few years before starting a family. Apparently this is akin to saying all young mothers are rubbish.

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