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Anyone doing Lapland UK this year , just got my email!!

69 replies

Lilyloo · 22/09/2009 10:22

Too expensive for us this year , we went the first year and despite some let downs enjoyed it.
Didn't go last year but enjoyed the thread on it and the responses from their pr team
Did anyone go last year ?

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ProfessorLaytonIsMyLoveSlave · 13/11/2009 01:09

While devonbelle is almost certainly a sock puppet, I think that is over-picky. "Here" would be a perfectly acceptable stylistic variant.

k80brd · 16/11/2009 19:08

Have any of the posters rubbishing it actually been there? I have. I took my children (aged 18months and 3yrs) to the first one, two years ago, when it was in Bedgebury Forest (which is local to where we live). We went on Xmas Eve (as a present from the boys grandad) and it was absolutely enchanting. Whilst the snowdrifts alluded to on the promo material didn't quite match expectations, it was certainly snowy enough to feel Christmassy. The children loved it, and didn't recognise it as the woods we visit all the time! Every part of it(except the 'magical flight' in) was well thought out and good quality, and there was a distinct lack of queues (how often can you say that about a theme park?)
Didn't go last year, as couldn't justify the exorbitant increase in the prices, but if anyone is going this year, enjoy it (and try not to think about what it cost to go in).
BTW there are special offers being promoted on the booking line this week (free child places during Nov, and a BOGOF this weds, which makes it much better value!)

zebramummy · 19/11/2009 20:01

ok - just because ds is santa obsessed this year, we will be going
btw that is no thanks to you devonbelle & co - you almost put me off

anyways, i have fully paid up so i am trying to stay positive and i will report back soon!

adambuckland · 21/11/2009 07:25

Went two years ago when it was at Bedgebury.

Decided not to go last year as felt it was too expensive.

Have stayed on their mailing list and had through a 2 for 1 mailing yesterday so have booked for SWMBO and our 3 & 4 year old for a total of £145 which may be expensive for some but compares well against Legoland etc especially as it's only 5 miles away.

Adam...

hamlette · 21/11/2009 11:50

I WORK THERE!! Not in the PR team, I'm merely an elf. A toy Factory elf to be precise. What are you going to do, Stone me?!?! :-O !!

zebramummy · 21/11/2009 21:41

ok - now been there, done it -

i was expecting a load of overpriced crap BUT...
overall, it made for a surprisingly a good day out - we even managed to forget about the heavy rain pattering on the yurt at the start of our visit.
SPOILER ALERT !!!!

there were two kinds of elves: proper elves (bit-part actors in character) who were pleasant enough & dressed rather splendidly & 'led' the production so to speak. there was also the teenage dirtbag NVQ Performing Arts variety who only got red T shirts (ha, ha) , never really did much other than mope around avoiding eye-contact with the public for fear of actually being asked any questions - i found this out when i asked one the time (imagine a 5ft, black-haired version of Suri Cruise with a broad London accent) - 'I have no idea' she said waltzing past without so much as making eye-contact or smiling.

the first two sessions - sticking a mane (and a few other bits) on a rocking horse head at the toy Factory and decorating gingerbread men with smarties (additives galore!) were very structured indeed - more so than was necessary really. parents had to sit on benches quite far away away from all the children - given that it is touted as a family day out, i would have much preferred to allow ds to choose where he sat himself; they were really insisting on these divides during activities - it was a bit like moving from nursery into year 1 during that time and given the duration of the experience felt a bit pointless and more artificial than the seaweed snow. a shy child who is far away from home among a bunch of strangers would obviously be less comfortable with this set-up than a more mature, sociable one (??) A couple of children broke away from the group and they stuck out like a sore thumb which was unfair on them as they were younger and it allowed the smug types to feel proud of their little angels to the extent that i was worried that the pride might literally burst out of the grandma seated beside us (yes, i heard real tutting noises coming from that direction).

the actual activities themselves were simple and took all of five minutes in each case - however, the sessions were heavily padded out by a load of mind-numbingly boring elf banter (i'm not big on inexpertly delivered dramatics especially when they drag on and on... and on) and there were only a couple of children really engaging with them. ds was kinda bored with it too and i felt like the mummy of the disinterested kid at tumbletots all over again!) but ds nevertheless completed the required tasks to gain those 'special stamps' in his 'passport'.

then on to lunch ... it was good - a bit like those Witshire Farm 'meals-on-wheels' with not a chip in sight - each person ate a pie (meat, fish or veggie & heavily potato-topped carbs galore ), a tiny pot of veg (2 tbsp at the most) and a desert (GU sized). we had to purchase drinks separately (£1.50 for a cup of tea). 'lunch time' was scheduled to last an hour (very school-ey) so we wandered around and found a few miserable-looking reindeers in a cage. dh wanted to try out the ice-rink (relatively empty at the stage) but they said that we had to wait for our 'slot'.

after lunch, we got to meet father christmas - we waited for around 10 mins - then we were led through the fake snow along a very winding path. the experience was somewhat marred by the natural screening on either side of the path being straight out of the B&Q catalogue (we have it in our garden as well!). it was not covered in snow at all so was gleaming at us in all it's brand-new shiny brown glory. father christmas was in a (B&Q?) log cabin - he was great, ds loved him, he wasn't so great with dealing with the names and few bits of info provided about ds, but it was fine once he had muddled his way through that part. presents were not wrapped (eco-friendly but to see them all stashed behind santa's couch ...) and the same toy for every child - a huskie - apparently worth £20 (i'd say a tenner at a push though). we were also given a book about christmas (you would never have guessed!) and a bottle of ginger wine (rather nice it was too!). btw we never did find any real huskies despite asking around loads

that was really the end of it - no post-office experience was scheduled despite what it says on the website (another unsolved mystery along with the lochness huskies). the ice-skating was probably the best bit as you just get on with it with minimal elf- interference (although the skates were uncomfortable) and there was a distinct shortage of penguins (used to prop up younger children) which meant lots of waiting around and stressed-out parents. by this stage, the ice-rink was packed with loads of people whose experience had finished a long time ago though did not want to go home at 2pm

it was not shockingly bad value for money if you price it component-by-component, it was certainly a unique experience and worth doing with a child between 2 and 6 (though only once rather than every year). ds was chanting 'there's no place like home' and 'i want to go home' rather than 'i want to go back' in the car on the way home - pretty much what we were feeling too

they have printed a slogan on their bags to the effect of 'because christmas need not cost the earth' to reinforce their eco-credentials. the book that came inside it was 'printed in china'. 'nuff said...

hamlette · 21/11/2009 22:54

hi zebramummy,

it was interesting you read your review, especially as I was one of the Toy Factory elves today! I'm hoping you were from Team Reindeer though, not team Husky!! I promise I did my best, although have no acting experience whatsoever. The little job experience I have had whilst completing my degree has been in teaching so whilst I can engage kids, artiste I am not!

Obviously you've paid a high price so quite rightly have equally high expectations but I suppose you just can't please everybody. Seperating the children from parents was in fact a move in response to quite a few complaints that a few pushy parents had been sitting upfront with their kids and blocking the view of other children. In fact thats been the only issue thats been brought up (while I've been there): shyer children not going to the front and so not being able to see, OR over enthusiastic parents blocking other children out.

Its a shame you didn't see the huskies, there are three of them (I think - perhaps more) so you must have been quite unlucky.

I don't really understand what you mean about the snow.. you say its pointless, but would you have preferred a Lapland without snow? And surely you weren't expecting real snow, because even Mike Battle can't control the weather over Kent!!!

But overall I hope your ds had a nice time, and that he had enough attention from the elves - the biggest problem the elves face is giving each child a lot of attention without them feeling rushed!

zebramummy · 22/11/2009 12:37

no offence meant hamlette - i thought my account was quite balanced actually.
maybe sitting in a circle with parents sitting just behind the children would be a better solution - there seemed to be enough space for this.
i didn't say the snow was pointless actually - just v artificial looking - it looked more like white mould than spray on snow - could have put a bit more on the bamboo fencing leading up to FC??

yes ds had a nice time (though if he had enjoyed it more he typically would be going on about it a lot more). i reiterate that i do not regret paying that amount. it was a fair price but it would have been even better if...

i stand by what i said about that sulky little madam though - she was a poor excuse for an elf and if i was in charge of HR at your attraction i would not have recruited her as she really lets you down collectively. it wasn't just what she said but the tone and the brusque movements and she was not rushed off her feet as i saw her texting someone in a hidden corner just minutes later.

mayl · 27/11/2009 22:13

I have found this thread mildly irritating and now notice the cynics have disappeared, why on earth has that happened, surely not because there has been a balanced review.

I think it says a great deal about an individual if they can actually remember the screen name of a supposed imposter from last year...

Washersaurus · 27/11/2009 22:26

I can't comment on Lapland UK but do remember Dorothy et al from last year - they were very entertaining! You should find the thread and amuse yourself.

Lilyloo · 27/11/2009 22:43

mayl i have been and am not a cynic but wouldn't go again. Am the op actually.
If you were here last year and saw the ridiculous attepmts at pr last year then you wouldn't find it so odd that people remember it.
Have you been ?
To be fair i think the majority of people who have been once wouldn't go again ?

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mumoverseas · 28/11/2009 07:27

Have to agree with Washersaurus and Lilyloo.
I remember those ludicrous posts last year from Dorothy and others. Their posting names may as well have been 'lapland uk pr team'. Pathetic.
I've not been and have no intention of going. Not because of critical threads but because I'd rather save up and take the children to the real thing.

QOD · 28/11/2009 08:02

My friend went yesterday with her 10 yr old & 5 yr old, they paid half price & said it was worth it at that price. The 10yr old is a non beleiver BUT she was amazed when Santa asked her how the hockey was going... she nearly came back over to the bright side
LOL

kelstar17 · 29/11/2009 15:52

Hi everyone I am new, but I am off to Lapland UK in Berl Water Kent tomorrow with my 5 and 3 year olds. I went last year and absolutly loved it although I did feel it was extremely over price as I went 2 days before christmas it was the most expensive time. This year I got the deal through buy 2 tickets get 2 free so have paid £150 for 4 of us to go. Much more reasonable I feel. People on here shouldn't judge if they haven't been it really was great fun and just watching my kids faces was brillant. I think you get out of it what you put in I let myself get caught up in the magic of it all, sang all the songs and was generally merry all day, made for a much better experience for me and my kids! I've put up my tree today and am getting right in the christmas spirit roll on tomorrow!!!
PS I saw all three husky dogs last year they were lovely!

pofacedandproud · 29/11/2009 16:04

So K80brd has one previous post on MN, kelstar17 and devonbelle have no posting history at all. at least hamlette is being upfront about who she is.

I have been there actually. I went with my ds and dh the first time it opened in Bedgebury, two years ago. It was overcrowded, over priced and badly organised. It smacked of cynical money making and misleading advertising. Since then each year the PR company come on here pretending to be 'mummies' and patronising the crap out of us, which has made me even more annoyed with the whole exercise. Maybe is has improved, but have they really not got the idea yet that MN is not the place for free and disingenuous advertising?

pofacedandproud · 29/11/2009 16:08

mayl high profile trolls on MN are always remembered.

pofacedandproud · 29/11/2009 16:09

first post by adambuckland too. Funny how this thread attracts so many first time posters..

QOD · 30/11/2009 22:07

... but I'm real
LOL

hamlette · 02/12/2009 19:48

hi zebramummy, its a shame you had a bad elf! its in our contracts that we are not allowed mobile phones anywhere onsite, not even allowed earrings or wedding rings or anything that humans might have, to be convincingly elfish, so she was not sticking to the contract unfortunately. most elves are really enthusiastic & stick to the job description. The management would go ballistic if they caught anyone with a mobile phone! There are often members of management sitting in on the toy factory/mother xmas sessions to check that all the acting is up to scratch...

prince edward & sophie of wessex came today! My new claim to fame is a fake snowball fight with the 8th in line to the throne!

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