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"Santa" is an Americanism - in the UK its "Father Christmas" isnt it?

299 replies

janmoomoo · 10/12/2008 18:49

Or am I being pedantic?

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BellaKissedSanta · 10/12/2008 19:11

Yeah, exactly.

What about England?

saltire · 10/12/2008 19:11

Flame in Scotland these are turnips. Or neeps. In England ,as far as I know they are Swedes.

SnowMuchToBits · 10/12/2008 19:12

I say Father Christmas - I'm English
Dh says Santa - he's Scottish

Flamesparrow · 10/12/2008 19:13

Yup, the Scots and the Cornish think the same. Dorset however switches them.

I grew up with mum calling them turnips, and then me getting very when customers corrected me...

LilRedWG · 10/12/2008 19:13

I say Father Christmas.

DH and I got married in St Nicholas' Church on St Nicholas' Day. During our marriage preparation the vicar told us the following story about St. Nick, which made the day even more special for us (well me, DH isn't a soppy old git):

"One story tells of a poor man with three daughters. In those days a young woman's father had to offer prospective husbands something of value?a dowry. The larger the dowry, the better the chance that a young woman would find a good husband. Without a dowry, a woman was unlikely to marry. This poor man's daughters, without dowries, were therefore destined to be sold into slavery. Mysteriously, on three different occasions, a bag of gold appeared in their home-providing the needed dowries. The bags of gold, tossed through an open window, are said to have landed in stockings or shoes left before the fire to dry. This led to the custom of children hanging stockings or putting out shoes, eagerly awaiting gifts from Saint Nicholas. Sometimes the story is told with gold balls instead of bags of gold. That is why three gold balls, sometimes represented as oranges, are one of the symbols for St. Nicholas. And so St. Nicholas is a gift-giver."

Ah, I've gone all nostalgic now.

Flamesparrow · 10/12/2008 19:14

Wales is voting for Father Christmas here

BellaKissedSanta · 10/12/2008 19:14

Perhaps at some point in their posthumous evolution turnips were swedes....

Sorry, might have a bit of PMT going on here

Flamesparrow · 10/12/2008 19:15

pmsl

duckyfuzz · 10/12/2008 19:15

as has been said, santa claus comes from st nicholas, the real santa claus, whose feast is celebrated on 6 dec 'He had a reputation for secret gift-giving, such as putting coins in the shoes of those who left them out for him, and is now commonly identified with Santa Claus' hence traditions in many european countries of leaving shoes out on 6 dec

ClausImWorthIt · 10/12/2008 19:15

Not just a Scottish thing. I'm from the North, and my grandparents from the North East, and it was always Santa.

BellaKissedSanta · 10/12/2008 19:16

I am saying nothing

BellaKissedSanta · 10/12/2008 19:17

x post with ClausImWorthIt...

saltire · 10/12/2008 19:17

It's like Eurovision isn't it? Here are the points for Scotland

Fife -
Santa 6 points
Father Christmas 2 ppoints
Old Git 0 points.

I still think there's 2 of them, one does the Northern Hempisphere, the other does the Southern. They take it turn about so they each get a tan and a burger off the BBQ in Oz!
Does England count as the Southern Hemisphere

Hulababy · 10/12/2008 19:18

Father Christmas here

nickytinseltimes · 10/12/2008 19:18

Oh, now, at uni, I had a German room mate who filled my shoes with sweets on the 6th.

She lined them with tin foil first.

It was quite touching.

Salleroo · 10/12/2008 19:18

Just to throw a spanner in the works, we called him Santy in Irland when I was small.

Salleroo · 10/12/2008 19:19

Ireland even.

BellaKissedSanta · 10/12/2008 19:20

Nickytinsel - I really hope she explained before she did it. Otherwise one could get sectioned, you know

BellaKissedSanta · 10/12/2008 19:20

Oh, ffs, Salleroo

nickytinseltimes · 10/12/2008 19:21

Bella, I was totally confused actually!

I woke up to find them by my bed filled with Mars bars and Ribena and stuff.

She saw the confusion and explained though...

BellaKissedSanta · 10/12/2008 19:22

And isn't that just the Irish pronounciation of Santa?

Like my Irish flatmate who used to have a 'shar' every morning (clue - you do it in the bathroom)

nickytinseltimes · 10/12/2008 19:23

My cousin had a 'car bar' as a child.

Belfast-ese for care bear apparently.

BellaKissedSanta · 10/12/2008 19:23

Nicky I wouldn't have stayed for the explanation

Macdog · 10/12/2008 19:24

Another Scot who's always said Santa here

BellaKissedSanta · 10/12/2008 19:24

Aw - car bar is cute