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i am not surprised shops are closing with so much online shopping

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Marshtit · 12/11/2024 07:29

i am totally guilty of online shopping
the thought of actual physical shopping for christmas fills me with dread
but i am not helping the small businesses

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StormingNorman · 12/11/2024 17:09

I won’t be doing any shopping in actual shops. The internet has far more choice, you can shop around for the best price and you can find everything in stock somewhere.

Plus - no queues, no expensive car parks, no crowds, no rummaging, no chiggers, no getting stuck behind painfully slow walkers and no lugging heavy bags around.

ohwdymh · 12/11/2024 18:17

I live in Austria and I absolutely hate going to the shops so the vast majority of my purchases are online.
I have to drive half an hour to nearest town which doesn't have that many shops anyway or nearly an hour to a bigger city. Then parking is an issue. High cost of parking, few parking spots free, very expensive P&R near the city and poor public transport.
The next problem is that the shops have a very limited range of products and particularly sizes of clothes.
You also get very pushy sales assistants (they are trained like that). They won't leave you alone and it's irritating when you just want to browse. They constantly try to upsell too. With many of them there is a very haughty tone too - it's a bit hard to describe - they are always banging on about the quality of the products trying to persuade you to buy something which is often overpriced compared to online stores.

I often need specialist trekking clothing and equipment. The range of items available in the shops is limited (even though it's an outdoorsy country) and mainly aimed towards cyclists or mountain runners rather than people who are going on multiday treks.

I used to try to find items in the shops but I swore never again after I went to an outdoor shop in Germany and I'd seen a couple of pairs of trousers in my size (14-16). The assistant came over, looked me up and down, and said in such a snooty tone "Oh dear, you won't be able to find anything big enough for you". I held up the trousers I had in my hand and said "Well both of these are my size but I won't be buying them now. I've got a budget of €300 for shopping today and I'm going to go home and buy online". She started berating me for shopping online and how her shop would go out of business. So I said well don't be so rude about people's size in future and I walked out. I was cool about it at the time but I was upset later and I haven't set foot in a shop like that since. I can order hiking clothes online, if they don't fit they can be sent back and I don't have someone looking my body up and down and judging.

I find online really practical anyway. I've just tracked down a particular tent I wanted to buy which is an old model and has been replaced by a new model (which has a couple of absolutely ridiculous features). I was able to find it online in a small online camping store, send them a message to check it really was the old model, get an answer back and order the thing within 6 hours.

I know people say we should be supporting shops and so on but I really feel like the world has completely changed and business models have changed so shops either need to adapt or they will go out of business.
Anyway there's always been distance selling. When I was a kid in the 80s and early 90s we used to order all of the music I needed from Banks in York. We didn't live anywhere near York. My teachers gave my Mum a list, she phoned up Banks, they sent the music. I don't know how payment worked - possibly she had to send a cheque.

Papyrophile · 12/11/2024 19:45

I actively enjoy a mooch around the shops and market stalls, looking at things. When I know what I want to buy, i e a particular pasta rolling machine, I don't want the lightweight £20 version that my local kitchen shop thinks I will want because it's cheap, I do actually want to buy (x2) the semi-professional version that actually works. Of course, this is extremely specific. But I did buy two at £55 each, and neither DS (a chef) nor I shall ever need to buy an upgrade, ever again. Buy well and once.

user1497787065 · 12/11/2024 19:52

I am in need of some new clothes and my nearest large shopping centre is about 70 miles away but at least the parking is free.
I find online clothes shopping frustrating. I order a number of items and almost always return them. I prefer in store shopping so I can feel the fabrics and look at the shape of an item and know immediately if item
Is a possibility or not.

Generally I think shops, whether online or in person have less and less on offer. I used to be a Jaeger, White Co, Mint Velvet shopper but now believe they have compromised on quality to try to keep the prices down. Mint Velvet in particular I now find to be expensive cheap clothing. Hoping you know what I mean.

Lovemusic82 · 12/11/2024 19:52

I agree regarding the price of parking, if it’s going to cost me £5-£6 to park then I would rather pay postage costs from shopping online. I do like shopping in unique shops and we have a few lovely quirky towns nearby that are lovely for those kind of shops, sadly a lot have closed. I like to visit a Christmas market but mainly for the food and the atmosphere. Most of my shopping this year has been done online….so far.

BobnLen · 12/11/2024 20:38

A lot of shops are just really showing examples of what you can buy online, I often pop to our very nice outdoor mall that has free parking so I can choose whether to drive or walk, to browse and just look at the goods on offer, it doesn't really matter if my size isn't there as I am just looking at the example and wouldn't buy it in the shop anyway, I always order online but like to feel the fabrics if I can first or see what household goods look like in real life first

ForGreyKoala · 12/11/2024 20:38

ExquisiteIyDesigned · 12/11/2024 08:07

Well you all stay at home, it makes it much easier for me! We have a big centre close by with ample inexpensive parking, never been chugged, great range of shops, emails etc just say no, So much nicer being out and about with other people than stuck behind a computer screen, get enough of that at work.

I agree. I shop online quite a lot myself, but I live in a small town and don't drive (not in the UK, public transport pretty hopeless) so it's easier. However next week I'm off to a larger town and am really looking forward to a day looking around the shops.

While we have a lot of shops here which have closed, shopping in person isn't the nightmare many of you on here are describing, thank goodness.

Online shopping is all very well, but I am sick and tired of constantly returning items and waiting for refunds.

ViciousCurrentBun · 12/11/2024 20:45

I never buy clothes, shoes or anything made of fabric online. I bought a new mattress this week. I wanted to try it so went round 5 shops in two out of town shopping centres. It’s an expensive purchase 1,350, I haggled and got 10% knocked off the price. We buy cat food, coffee beans and shampoo in bulk online as much cheaper. I do try to shop locally.

Lidlisthebusiness · 12/11/2024 20:48

I used to love shopping in actual shops, but now it seems like such a huge effort. I don't have anyone to look after the children, and the prices are so much higher in store than online, where you can find discount codes and get cashback. I just doesn't make sense to pay for peteol to get the shops, then pay to park, to potentially come away with nothing.

Lavender14 · 12/11/2024 20:50

I'm tall and plus size. If small businesses wanted my business surely they'd cater for it...? The last few times I've been shopping in person and specifically needed things I couldn't find maternity wear/ tall enough jeans/ dress for a specific event...

Shops used to have sections and carry a range but now it seems that's been lost. So it's bound to drive more people online probably creating a vicious circle.

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