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Grrrr so pissed at Husband!

73 replies

ITSSSSCHRISTMASSS · 09/12/2022 16:23

He forgot the Elf’s last night. He remembered this morning after his alarm went off so grabbed the Elf’s from DDs beds and quickly set them up. But, my oldest was awake and saw him. She came home from school upset, I didn’t see her this morning. Anyway she now no longer believes in the Elf’s or Santa 😢 She’s 10 and I knew I’d have to tell her before high school, but I was hoping she’d have this year. She’s my real magical believer, I honestly don’t think my others will care but this DD is so naturally innocent, she’s been sobbing away in my arms for ages 😭

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MichelleScarn · 09/12/2022 18:05

Agree elf stuff is commercial rubbish, but each to their own!
But re your reaction, have you been looking for something to have a go at your husband for?

sanityisamyth · 09/12/2022 18:06

Macaroni46 · 09/12/2022 18:02

Can't stand the whole elf on the shelf thing. Consumerist nonsense.
Your DD will be fine. It's a rite of passage realising that Santa isn't real.
P.S. it's 'elves' not 'elf's'

This.

ReneBumsWombats · 09/12/2022 18:08

How is this LOB still up?

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 09/12/2022 18:08

MissMaple82 · 09/12/2022 17:36

So many arseholes in one thread!!!!

Indeed....and you're on this thread as well. 🤔

DuploMum · 09/12/2022 18:08

10??!!!

You should have told her about it all before now 🥴

DepIndoChridmadWidMe · 09/12/2022 18:22

tunthebloodyalarmoff · 09/12/2022 18:05

Show her the news about kids in Ukrainian she might feel better bless her

Children getting injured and killed makes you feel better? Ok then...

NoNamesLeft234678 · 09/12/2022 18:26

Poor thing 😥

Also, I really feel for all the children who have the horrible posters as parents 🥺

DappledThings · 09/12/2022 18:29

Tempnamechange5 · 09/12/2022 17:22

Found it!

Son: "Dad, I think I'm old enough to know now. Is there a Santa Claus?"

Dad: "OK, I agree that you're old enough. But before I tell you, I have a question for you. You see, the truth is a dangerous gift. Once you know something, you can't un-know it. Once you know the truth about Santa Claus, you will never again understand and relate to him as you do now. So my question is: Are you sure you want to know?"
Brief pause. Son: "Yes. I want to know."
Dad: "OK, I'll tell you: Yes, there IS a Santa Claus."
Son: "Really?"

Dad: "Yes, really, but he's not an old man with a beard in a red suit. That's just what we tell kids. You see, kids are too young to understand the true nature of Santa Claus, so we explain it to them in a way that they can understand. The truth about Santa Claus is that he's not a person at all; he's an idea. Think of all those presents Santa gave you over the years. I actually bought those myself. I watched you open them. And did it bother me that you didn't thank me? Of course not! In fact it gave me great pleasure. You see, Santa Claus is THE IDEA OF GIVING FOR THE SAKE OF GIVING, without thought of thanks or acknowledgement.

When I saw that woman collapse on the subway last week and called for help, I knew that she'd never know that it was me who summoned the ambulance. I was being Santa Claus when I did that."

Son: "Oh."

Dad: "So now that you know, you're part of it. You have to be Santa Claus too now. That means you can never tell a young kid the secret, and you have to help us select Santa presents for them, and most important, you have to look for opportunities to help people. Got it?"

Jeez. DS(6) told us two weeks he'd worked out it was us. We just confirmed it, made sure he knew not to tell his little sister and that was it. Zero drama or cheesy weirdness.

fannyfartlet · 09/12/2022 18:42

CloseYourEyesAndSee · 09/12/2022 16:57

Because
a) this is the age almost all children find out if they haven't already. Most work it out for themselves by 10, so nobody should be upset that their 10 year old finds out
b) being angry with the husband is way out of proportion and out of line
c) indulging a child sobbing over Father Christmas and blaming the father for giving it away is generally pretty poor parenting.

Well said.

Daffodilis · 09/12/2022 18:42

tunthebloodyalarmoff · 09/12/2022 18:05

Show her the news about kids in Ukrainian she might feel better bless her

I was just thinking that no egit had mentioned the war yet!

fannyfartlet · 09/12/2022 18:51

LTB_ but to be clear, that's the advice I'd give your husband as if you've got as angry as you say over this, then your marriage is doomed.

buckeejit · 09/12/2022 19:08

Agh OP, that's annoying. We constantly forget about the bastard elves. Youngest is 9 & still believes in all she can. Take the joy in life where you can & take her out to a coffee shop or for a treat if you can & do all the magic is in you business. Then get home & have a large drink for yourself & ignore all the grinches on here

ITSSSSCHRISTMASSS · 09/12/2022 20:41

CoffeeChocolateWine · 09/12/2022 17:11

Oh bugger. Sorry OP. That's a really rubbish way for her to find out, poor thing. My DD is similar...she's 10 and just loves to believe all the magical Christmas stuff! We have FC, the elf and an advent calendar fairy too, because I'm an f*ing idiot and thought it would be fun to introduce that when she was little too 😂 She writes tiny notes to her and leaves them in her pocket calendar and I have to write tiny fairy notes back! I think deep down she doesn't believe anymore but she just loves the magical pretence of it all, and really bigs it up for her little sister too. She'd be gutted it we blew it like that. So I hear you and I hope she's ok.

Thanks and thank you to all the others with positive comments. I knew there would be negative ones but I’m just ignoring those.

She’d obviously been bottling it up all day and I think it was the final straw in a shitty week for her. We’ve had to go into school about a bigger child pushing her to the ground several times this week, so when she found out the truth everything just came exploding out of her.

I always knew telling her would be hard, she loves the whole magic feeling, like your DD writes notes & she saved her last couple of months worth of The Phoenix so she could read them with the Elf’s. There have been odd questions in the past but she’s been easily pleased with my responses.

I asked her if her friends still believe but apparently they don’t talk about it in school. In her class anyway. The have an Elf on the Shelf which apparently they all love and no one has said he’s not real.

She’s a lot happier now, we talked about St Nicholas being a real person and when he died others took up his mantle and would treat children to gifts and over the centuries it’s become what it is today that most parents buy their DCs gifts. I think the clincher was knowing what my 8yo dd is getting for Christmas, she’s excited she knows. And she’s now chief Elf michife maker!

I’ve also told her I’ve been waiting for her to find out as I need help shopping for and wrapping presents. So she’s looking forward to helping me in the future.

I had to go out for a couple of hours but have come back to a 1001 questions, but all positive.

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CloseYourEyesAndSee · 10/12/2022 06:29

MissMaple82 · 09/12/2022 17:42

"Indulging a child" for fuck sake, children are allowed to show raw emotions, I bet you 've sobbed over a shitty relationship! Your emotions are no more valued than a child's emotions!! You sound positively vile

My child has sobbed on me over various things through his life but never over anything as daft as this. When he found out he was a bit annoyed with me for making it up and got over it immediately. Big feelings are human but indulging them over silly things doesn't help children become mature and resilient. Of course I've sobbed over relationships ending but this is absolutely not equivalent to that!

CloseYourEyesAndSee · 10/12/2022 06:32

Have just read OP's update and the sobbing was clearly NOT about the elf or Father Christmas at all. Glad it's resolved and she's fine about it now :)

BessieSurtees · 10/12/2022 06:40

She is now chief elf mischief maker

Your DH pulled a blinder there 😂

ChequerboardCharlie · 10/12/2022 07:09

Gosh, some horrible people on this thread. And emotional resilience comes from empathy, not some of the responses I’ve seen here. If you can’t vent on an anonymous internet forum, then what’s the point of it existing? 😃

Herejustforthisone · 10/12/2022 14:06

Oh wow. Drama. She’s ten. She’ll probably live. I’m sort of surprised she still believed a plastic elf moved itself overnight into a variety of ludicrous positions. And that a fat guy brought presents. But I was a naturally suspicious child and the youngest of four. I went investigating at four and learnt the truth. And I was not surprised by what my sleuthing unearthed. 🤷‍♀️

Herejustforthisone · 10/12/2022 14:08

BessieSurtees · 10/12/2022 06:40

She is now chief elf mischief maker

Your DH pulled a blinder there 😂

Ha! Clever man. Doesn’t have to move the bullshit elf anymore or peddle the Santa stuff to a kid about to go to high school.

ITSSSSCHRISTMASSS · 12/12/2022 00:43

For the negative comments and a positive update,

(pasted as I didn’t want to rewrite)
This weekend I had the opportunity to talk to many parents and teachers from my DDs school. One parent with Yr7, Yr6 & Yr4 children said all his children 100% believed. Both him and his wife had been discussing whether to tell their 12yo or wait till after Christmas, no SEN or other issues and both parents primary school teachers. Although their oldest is in high school, it apparently hasn’t come up.

Two other parents of YR6 children asked me to make sure my DD did NOT tell their children. My DDs Yr6 teacher, the School councillor and HT also said many many year 6s believe and it’s not as talked about in schools as parents think. One parent I don’t actually get on with almost pleaded with me to make sure my DD didn’t say anything. Given her DD is in the main Yr6 clique I was actually surprised as I suspected most of that Clique knew ( purely because they always seem more “mature” and care more about fashion than toys) absolutely my bad! But obviously not.

I remember finding out a lot younger and being upset. I knew this DD would be more upset than I was, because that’s her nature. I was also taught crying was a sign of weakness, I’ve taught my children they can react how ever they want, everything is right and acceptable as long as it’s able to be eventually controllable. I’ve never taught my children to shy away from crying or hide their emotions like I was.

MY DD was upset on Friday but far happier now. Am I still pissed at DH, fuck yes, because I know he forgot because he was to busy playing his PS5. I have no problems with his games but the Christmas Elf’s come from fucking first (inside joke and humour)! But i will admit, him and DD have done pretty well this weekend!

p.s
there were some comments about creepy plastic faced elf’s, until last year we were plastic free and only plush elf’s.

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Dreamwhisper · 12/12/2022 06:20

Your daughter sounds so sweet OP and I'm glad she's been cheered up Smile

I do worry though in general for DC these days that perhaps we put a bit too much effort into making FC appear real?

I must have been really young when my brother showed me some presents my mum had hidden in the garage. I think I remember feeling a bit perturbed but mainly in case I got in trouble for seeing them? Pretending you haven't seen something is quite a burden for a small child!

I always remember being so so excited at the sack of presents. I don't have any memories at all of truly believing it was FC; in fact I remember a neighbour dressing up as FC and just finding the whole thing really intimidating.

I've purposely never put too much effort into it, we don't do the elf etc. I believe my DD already knows because she is close friends with a girl who it sounds like it has been explained to her that FC isn't real (they're 6/7 now). However children have a keen ability to suspend disbelief so while I'm in no rush to tell her, I don't want to focus too much effort into keeping up the illusion.

Dreamwhisper · 12/12/2022 06:24

DappledThings · 09/12/2022 18:29

Jeez. DS(6) told us two weeks he'd worked out it was us. We just confirmed it, made sure he knew not to tell his little sister and that was it. Zero drama or cheesy weirdness.

I actually love the first half of this! I hate the second half though about saving the woman on the subway.

I think it's a good and nice way to explain to children in the transitional age though, I just get a sense that "proving" he really was a real person in some aspect helps a bit.

I will certainly be gently explaining to my DC when the time comes about the origins, the spirit, the traditions etc.

CombatBarbie · 12/12/2022 12:06

OP ignore the grunch misers, christmas is such a magical time and there are those who haven't worked it out by age 4 🙄 and there are children who will sob when they find out because some children just do.... They don't need to be SEN.

You talking to to school parents/teachers shows this very fact.

I hope you and your daughter have a fabulous Christmas, just because she doesn't believe in Santa, does not mean she can't believe in the magic of Christmas. I still do, my kids too.

I would recommend Klaus if you have not seen it, it kinda brings together the whole story and me and my kids love watching it.

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