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Stop the Calvary - a Christmas song or not?

57 replies

Rupertgrintismyguiltypleasure · 10/10/2022 22:11

After a lengthy debate with my sister who randomly blurted out to me and DS earlier that stop the Calvary wasn’t a Christmas song, I’ve decided to put it to the masses.... so what are we saying... Christmas song or not?

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Punkypinky · 10/10/2022 23:19

Some of my earliest Christmas memories are marching round the Xmas tree with my sisters to this song. It's forever an Xmas song to me 😊

PorkPieAndAPickledOnion · 10/10/2022 23:23

shortpeopleproblems · 10/10/2022 22:22

There's mention of snow and jingly bells! It's certainly more of a Christmas song than Angels, or The Power of Love, which are also on the Christmas albums?

If you were old enough to remember the video for The Power of Love, you’d know it was literally the Nativity, Mary, Joseph and the wee Donkey and all. And released for Christmas. So very much more a Christmas song than any of this others mentioned!

cooolio · 10/10/2022 23:23

Calvary?

YouWereGr8InLittleMenstruators · 10/10/2022 23:28

SanityIsAMyth
Calvary, or cavalry?!
😂This.

Trees6 · 10/10/2022 23:31

I also thought it might’ve been a dig at the “it’ll be over by Christmas” nonsense spouted by the powers-that-be in the summer of 1914.

Didn’t realise that Lewie had explained that he didn’t intend it to be a Christmas-related song. Interesting.

MooseAndSquirrelLoveFlannel · 11/10/2022 08:05

I read that as stop the Carvery and was very confused..

I think I need more caffeine.

AnneButNotHathaway · 11/10/2022 09:47

It's the only time of the year I hear it and my SIL added it to her Christmas smartshow 3d video last year. Couldn't be more Christmassy!

mam0918 · 11/10/2022 10:38

00100001 · 10/10/2022 22:17

It's a song about WWII that happens to mention being home for Christmas. if you took this three repeated lines out,. This is the song

Hey, Mr. Churchill comes over here
To say we're doing splendidly
But it's very cold out here in the snow
Marching to and from the enemy
Oh I say it's tough, I have had enough
Can you stop the cavalry?

I have had to fight, almost every night
Down throughout these centuries
That is when I say, oh yes yet again
Can you stop the cavalry?
Mary Bradley waits at home
In the nuclear fall-out zone
Wish I could be dancing now
In the arms of the girl I love

Bang! That's another bomb on another town
While the Tsar and Jim have tea
If I get home, live to tell the tale
I'll run for all presidencies
If I get elected I'll stop, I will stop the cavalry

Wish I could be dancing now
In the arms of the girl I love
Mary Bradley waits at home
She's has been waiting two years long

Hardly Christmas material...

Something doesnt have to be 'cheery' to be xmas.

A song about a soilder wanting the war to stop so he can return home to family for christmas is STILL a christmas song.

Its litrally about nothing else.

OrigamiOwls · 11/10/2022 12:10

It's def a Christmas song.

AnApparitionQuipped · 11/10/2022 12:18

It depends whether how you define a 'Christmas hit' -

a. Celebrates/focuses on Christmas (E.g. 'Mary's Boy Child')
b. Mentions Christmas (E.g. Stop the Cavalry)
c. Was a Christmas no. 1/top 20 hit
d. Was a novelty song aimed at the Christmas market (e.g. The Frog Song)
e. Was sung by Cliff Richard Grin

I would say the more boxes ticked the more Christmassy the song. Stop the Cavalry ticks b and c so, a Christmas hit in my book.

BertaHoon · 11/10/2022 12:44

Oh I got this confused with the Camel Fudge song.

FourTeaFallOut · 11/10/2022 12:52

Of course it's a Christmas song. A lot of Christmas narratives - stories and songs- set the horror of everyday against the rich imagery and warmth of Christmas comfort. If the trauma inducing sadness of The Little Matchstick Girl counts then this should also.

latetothefisting · 11/10/2022 12:55

AnApparitionQuipped · 11/10/2022 12:18

It depends whether how you define a 'Christmas hit' -

a. Celebrates/focuses on Christmas (E.g. 'Mary's Boy Child')
b. Mentions Christmas (E.g. Stop the Cavalry)
c. Was a Christmas no. 1/top 20 hit
d. Was a novelty song aimed at the Christmas market (e.g. The Frog Song)
e. Was sung by Cliff Richard Grin

I would say the more boxes ticked the more Christmassy the song. Stop the Cavalry ticks b and c so, a Christmas hit in my book.

I agree with this definitive identification system!

But would expand category b to include Christmas adjacent things -e.g. even if you don't mention the word itself, if it references more than one of the following: snow (including snowmen), presents, tree, carols, reindeer, jingle bells, Holly, mistletoe, santa/father Christmas, chimney.... it qualifies!

AnApparitionQuipped · 11/10/2022 12:56

latetothefisting · 11/10/2022 12:55

I agree with this definitive identification system!

But would expand category b to include Christmas adjacent things -e.g. even if you don't mention the word itself, if it references more than one of the following: snow (including snowmen), presents, tree, carols, reindeer, jingle bells, Holly, mistletoe, santa/father Christmas, chimney.... it qualifies!

Yes, that's an excellent and valid modification!

Allschoolsareartschools · 11/10/2022 13:19

I'm sure I once read that Jona Lewie wrote it as an anti war song & the record company wanted to add the Christmas parts in. So maybe it didn't start out as a Christmas song but there's absolutely no doubt that it is now & one of my all time favourites.

teaandtoastwithmarmite · 11/10/2022 13:22

Yes it says I wish I was at home for Christmas dum de dum dum dum. Then there's some Christmas sounding bells

Jackienory · 11/10/2022 13:25

...... wasn't it an homage to the 1914 Christmas Truce ?.

degsydoodoos · 11/10/2022 13:34

Salvation Army brass band, sleighbells and "wish I was at home for Christmas" make it a definite Christmas song for me!
It's FAR more Christmassy than many other so-called Christmas songs! If you look at the track listings on various compilations - FGTH "The Power of Love" / Robson and Jerome "I Believe" / Spice Girls / East 17 and so on, I don't consider any of these to be true Christmas songs, they just happen to have been hits around Christmas!
Maybe it's an 80s childhood thing with me - but hearing the oompa-oompa of the SA band in Stop the Cavalry really gives me the Christmassy feels!

Trees6 · 11/10/2022 13:39

Jackienory · 11/10/2022 13:25

...... wasn't it an homage to the 1914 Christmas Truce ?.

That was Pipes of Peace I think

Worldgonecrazy · 11/10/2022 13:42

Trees6 · 11/10/2022 13:39

That was Pipes of Peace I think

See also ‘All together now” by The Farm. Which isn’t a Christmas song either.

REP22 · 11/10/2022 13:47

Jona Lewie was being interviewed on our local BBC news a few years ago. He said that it wasn't a Christmas song but he was glad that he'd been persuaded/decided to put the Christmassy jingle effects on the track as it meant people took it as a Christmas song and he was thankful for the additional royalties it brought him every year.

Toomanysquishmallows · 11/10/2022 14:21

Along with “ step into Christmas “
It’s one of my favourite Christmas songs .

Userno46477473636274 · 11/10/2022 18:55

my favourite Christmas song!

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 11/10/2022 20:28

100% agree it's a Christmas song and nw it's in my head Xmas Grin

shinynewapple22 · 11/10/2022 20:37

00100001 · 10/10/2022 22:18

It the same as Die Hard. Not a Christmas film at all, just happens to be set around Christmas. But it's not about Christmas.

Might as well be set at New Year's.

I was about to say yes of course it's a Christmas song ....... the same as Die Hard is a Christmas movie Grin