Sounds like everyone's buying into the commercial side

[supersallymum]

We are not religious so don't do the god thing chrimbo is a time for family and gifts a nice..but reading a lot of the "I WANT" and didn't get or the crap, I've got the wrong thing sounds all a little bit middle class when people up and down the country have bugger all or will go into more debt to get the latest bit of landfill coz thats where it ends up....maybe we Mumsneters should pave a new way for Christmas and give to others 1st?????? discuss
Sal

But if you are not religious it is just commercialism.

Unless you buy nothing.

And Chrimbo?

I don't think you deserve to celebrate it at all if you are going to call it that.

Hmm, I think it is a problem that crossed all classes to be honest. Just look at that hideous Littlewoods adverts designed to get all the (for want of a better word) chavs to think that they have to buy ridiculously over the top presents and if they can't afford to they must use their Littlewoods account otherwise they're not a "lovely lovely mother"

It's a status thing for some, I have seen several badly spken and austentaciously dressed families in town recently with bags and psuhchairs literally loaded to the brim with toys while they speak loudly to their kids about what else they want them to buy for them.

Then of course there are those who can afford a lot (my DD's dad's family for instance) who can afford to go over the top and spoil the kids, and do so!

It's nothing to do with the economical crisis for me, it's just in poor taste to use something that was originally a religious festival (and no, I'm not religious either) to be so crass and materialistic.

I see no one took this seriously.

I will be giving everyone pigeons this year. Everyone.

I'm generous like that.

Let me know if you want one. I don't want to buy any needlessly. Baby Jesus wouldn't want me to.

Christmas has got very commercial these days. Who knew ?!

Oh my god, a real pigeon? Memememememe! And a pigeon coop, and bags of feed, and those little rings that go on their legs, and a book about keeping pigeons, and a recipe book in case it all goes wrong, and a pigeon grooming kit and and and and and

You can commercialise anything if you try hard enough.

Opener. I'm only buying the pigeon. If you want all the fancy shit that goes with it you'll have to ask baby Jesus.

unacceptablebehaviour you are completely wrong...it's not "my lovely, lovely mother". It's actually "my lovely, lovely Muvvahhhhhhh!"

As you were.

Cringe! and what's with the lame ass dad's not doing any of the shopping?

Still, can't beleive people have actually claimed that their kids have been traumatised by knowing it's mum that shops and nor Santa ha ha ha ha

Tightwad.

Tufty what page on the Littlewoods catalogue are the pigeons? I want to chose a colour. I also dont want one with bubblegum feet - y'know like the ones you see in Victoria station, with blown up lumpy pink feet, bleeurgh.

I thought of another accessory - pigeon nappies - both reusable and disposable for either side of the mumsnet fence.

Opener: but I'm buying for the whole world!

Binfull: page 726-856. Lots of pages this year. Pigeons are this year's 'must have' item.

Now - are we supposed to wear them, eat them, race them, stuff them and display them??

Oh, I feel sorry for mangy pigeons, I'll have one of them. I have doves in my garden, do you think I could sell them to Pedlars?

Binful: I am only the giver. The onus is on you as to how you'd like to use the present I have gifted

Sue: if you feel happy re-gifting your pigeon to Pedlars I won't mind.

I cannot guarantee the pigeons won't have bubblegum feet. You get what you're given.

It sounds like someone has their head stuck so far up their arse that it's a surprise we can even hear their morally superior wittering

This is a fair trade pigeon so colours and quality of feet may vary from the picture shown.

<a class="break-all" href="http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=pigeon&hl=en&client=safari&sa=X&addh=36&tbm=isch&tbnid=RvGLWLRoBZV9VM:&imgrefurl=en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Frillback_pigeon.jpg&docid=NOlKSEfLN0YPLM&imgurl=upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/Frillback_pigeon.jpg&w=1320&h=1008&ei=GZvTTrTIHoue-wbb94i9Dg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=606&vpy=279&dur=187&hovh=196&hovw=257&tx=142&ty=154&sig=104307916955919019240&page=1&tbnh=113&tbnw=148&start=0&ndsp=24&ved=1t:429,r:11,s:0&biw=1440&bih=616" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">this one please

You wish.

I wanna make it into a cushion!

I bet someone on Etsy has already done that.

hee hee

What is commercial though?

I have got DP some treats, but if it wasn't for Xmas we would have got them anyway. Bottle of whiskey is a luxury, but he hasn't had one since last Xmas, slippers, nice but wearing them will mean we don't have to put the heating on as much, complete works of Shakespeare (£5 wordsworth classics), not necessary but not extravagant either.

If it wasn't for Xmas we would have just bought the slippers and whiskey anyway.

Fucking hell.

Well, that beats the unicorn in a woodland glade cushion I saw in a shop in Bakewell yesterday.

You are all spoiling the spirit of Christmas. You will get a pigeon. Just a pigeon. No fancy shit. I feel like you're just taking the piss out of my generosity!