The God of Love

[PraiseHim]

Hello Friends,

I just wanted to say hello to you all. I’m a Christian Sabbath Keeper.

We share the same one, true, living God.

May the God of all peace and grace bless you abundantly on His hallowed Sabbath 🤍

Hi OP, how do you observe the Sabbath?

Hi @Snailbleu ,
I do no work, neither anyone in my gates, I fellowship, do nothing of my own pleasure and the Sabbath is to be a delight. Sabbath commences at sundown Friday until sundown Saturday - the whole day is spent with The Creator of Heaven and Earth

Why nothing of your own pleasure? A long as they do not contravene the rules of Shabbat, doing things that bring you pleasure are an intrinsic part of the joy of Shabbat.

Hi,
But on Shabbat at least in my family, we do not use social media, etc. We go to Shul etc? I have not heard that Christians hold Shabbat.

Hello, there are not many Christians who Worship on the 7th day. It’s the 4th commandment and it Stands as the God of Heaven changes not. Nowhere in the New Testament was it changed to the 1st day of the week. 1st day worship is a doctrine of man.

Sabbath is a monument to Creation to our Creator (and redeemer), which is why the 4th commandment begins with ‘remember’

@WeGoChai and @PraiseHim, posting on Mumsnet before sunset on Saturday is surely a contravention?

I'm sorry but I have no time for those who claim religion but run fast and loose with doctrine.

If you're trying to be a clever atheist, @Snailbleu, at least get your facts right. If WeGoChai is pasting from the UK, she posted nearly two hours after Shabbat had ended.

As for PraiseHim, she's observing the Jewish Shabbat according to her Christian understanding - so why do you expect her to follow the rules of what you no doubt see as merely a different Flying Spaghetti Monster?

I posted about the Lord on Sabbath on the Christian board.Spreading the Word on Sabbath is definitely within God’s Will

Thank you for your kind words. As I pointed out to that poster, doing God’s Will and spreading the Truth on Sabbath is definitely OK.

By the way, I don’t observe the Jewish Sabbath, it’s the God of Heavens Sabbath, He is my God, and He alone I serve,

*my mistake, I thought I was posting on the Christian board as I started a post on there too today, about God, on Sabbath, all within the law

It's a nice sentiment but we're not the same. The Christian approach to G-d is seen as avodah zarah in Halakha.

This is totally new to me.
Why don't you do anything pleasurable? Shabbat is not about punishing yourself.

Genuinely interested in this as, like I say, it's something I've not heard of before.

Do you follow dietary laws?

As far as the God of Heaven is concerned, by revelation in Holy Scripture in both the Old and New Testament, we are part of His Kingdom, and therefore share the Creator of All

We don’t do anything of thine own pleasure, as that is the commandment. So I wouldn’t watch eastenders on tv (not that I watch tv, it’s just an example). Sabbath is about spending time with God, reflecting on His Glory, spending time in His word. For 24hr period, it’s all about God. No housework, no secular stuff, just fellowship with him and the breathren.

As Christians, we give ourselves as a living sacrifice. This sacrifice to God is our whole lives. He is our centre every day, but He set apart the 7th day and blessed it, for it is He that sanctifies us.

Sabbath is a memorial to Creation (our Creator) and our blessed Hope of Redemption through Jesus Christ Our Lord.

Those Christians who acknowledge the 7th day Sabbath, acknowledge the God of Heaven as their God. The god of this world has a counterfeit Sabbath, Sunday.

Yes, I heed the dietary laws, we look at scripture for understanding. Many, like myself, have gone back to the original diet as given in Genesis.

i am more than happy to answer any questions you have, it’s a blessing that you inquire

That's the reason for Shabbat given in the Ten Commandments in Exodus. But the reason given for Shabbat in the Ten Commandments in Deuteronomy is that we were once slaves in Egypt. The Jewish understanding is that things that give joy, but which are not 'work', are therefore part of keeping Shabbat.

I find the Christian perspective fascinating. For all that Orthodox Judaism is considered by outsiders to be restrictive, with things like kashrut and Shabbat rules, it seems to me that Christianity restricts feelings and pleasures over actions.

Surely it's only avoda zara if a Jew observes Shabbat in a Christian manner?

We as Christians were in spiritual bondage so the Deuteronomy commands apply also to us. If we do our own pleasure on Sabbath then the day becomes about us, not Him and anything that comes before God is Idolatry.

I find our shared history fascinating too. I study the Old Testament as much as the New and study Ancient Israel for there is much learning for us Christians there

For Christians it (should) be about obedience. God is good to us, we have 6 days to do our secular stuff, and our own pleasure (within the law), but God requires 1 24hr period, those of us who love Him honour that, it’s the least we can do for Him, He gives us breath, He never leaves us, nor forsakes us, He provides for us, and protects us, He helps us, He blesses us, He comforts us, He heals us, He sustains us, He delivers us, He forgives us, He sacrificed His Son for us because He loves us (that sacrifice was for all)

Reading this I agree with you dilbertian, Judaism and Christianity are diametrically opposite approaches to life. At the core of the Jewish approach is the belief that we are developing a relationship with Hashem, through our every day life. There’s no secular/ religious separation, we’re meant to elevate the mundane. Plus we are meant to live besimcha (with joy). I come out of the bathroom and I say a prayer to say thanks to Hashem that all my insides are working correctly. Before I eat I say a bracha (blessing ) on each food, and a thank you bracha after. so no act of eating is meaningless. I put on my kids shoes and tie their shoelaces in a specific order. I wake up and immediately say the modeh ani prayer, thank you Gd that I am alive another day, and I say the Shema prayer before i go to sleep. Every single act of daily life is infused with a spiritual aspect, and is the way to create that relationship with Hashem. I’m always trying to grow and change in so many areas. It’s an all encompassing, lived, and living part of my life

Shabbos is considered a gift/ a treasure, a chance to rest and have ‘quality time’ so to speak with Hashem. We save the best and most beautiful for Shabbos. My house is cleaned top to bottom every week, we buy treats for the kids every week, everyone is showered, dressed up in our best and nicest clothes, I have crockery, tablecloths, serving dishes all saved for Shabbos. We play games as a family, can sing for hours, learn Torah. Everything we abstain from is not a sacrifice, by not doing certain things, it ends up allowing us to switch off from the mundane and connect with the real and the meaningful, with each other and with Hashem. But it genuinely is a rest.

Is this like a Jews for Jesus type thing?

I find it strange that Christians don't really seem to value their Sundays as a special day. For the practicing Christians I know, once they have attended Church, that's it.

For Jews, Shabbat is pleasurable, something to look forward to. Indeed it is greeted with joy like a bride.
I certainly couldn't do a whole day of Bible study. For me, it is not just about God, but being away from life's distractions and being grateful I can have that time with my family.

What about the other Jewish festivals?
Other mitzvot that come directly from scripture?
What do you call your branch of Christianity?

We too are to rejoice in the Lord and be thankful and prayerful and joyous in all that we do and in all circumstance (even trial and tribulation).

Everything we do is to be for the Glory of God.

I don’t know what these other books are which you are talking about but the scriptural stuff is the same as us, but that’s not a surprise because He changes not, same yesterday, today, tomorrow. The Holy Scriptures are our sole authority.

I would like to thank everyone for being so welcoming to me, it’s a blessing

Sunday worship has nothing to do with the Creator of Heaven. He set apart Sabbath as a sign between Him and His people. Nowhere in Scripture has Sabbath from the 7th day to the first. Sabbath was established at creation. It’s the 7th day of creation week, this cannot be changed as it mucks up the order of things, and our God is a Hod of order, not confusion, and He changes not.

All the Festivals of our Creator point to Christ, Passover is to be remembered forever

We are in the antitypical day of atonement at present, the second coming of Christ is soon to be upon us, and those who are watching and waiting patiently for him will be searching their hearts in preparation for Him

We can go for a walk, spend time with family etc and it is to be a delight, so we are to enjoy Sabbath, and we do.

i read Scripture and take my doctrine directly from it as most of the churches have changed the doctrine mixing truth and error

@PraiseHim He sacrificed His Son for us because He loves us (that sacrifice was for all)

All the Festivals of our Creator point to Christ, Passover is to be remembered forever

Jewish Mumsnetters is not the right forum for this content.

How sad if that is the case, as we serve the same God

"We too are to rejoice in the Lord and be thankful and prayerful and joyous in all that we do and in all circumstance"

This is from Paul's letter to the Thessalonians. Paul was one of the earliest to place Judaism in conflict with Christianity, and was a proponent of doing away with the mitzvot and Halakha.

We are not the same!

This - 💯