Bit worried that something is going on with ds's health. Would appreciate some opinions.

[MrsMorgan]

I don't know if it just me being a bit ott or if something is up. I am going to get him a gp appointment this week anyway, but at the mo i think I will more than likely get fobbed off.

Have just sat and written out what has happenend and when, so will retype here if thats ok and then it would be great if you could say wether you think I am being neurotic or wether you would also be concerned.

Just before Easter - Ds sick three times during the night. No dioreah and no one else ill. Fine the next day.

Tues 20th April - Bad headache, clutching head and crying. Given calpol and fluids and rested and then ok, although quiet.

Fri 23rd April - Severe headache again, calpol given but vomitted straight back up. Fell asleep and was fine in morning.

Sat 1st May - Vomitted once during the night. Ok next day although off his food.

Mon/Tue 3&4th May - General upset stomach, slight dioreah and nausea. Other family members also felt a bit off.

Sat 8th May - Got upset at bedtime as felt sck and had funny feeling in chest. Calmed down and then slept ok.

Thurs May 14th - Ate breakfast but then complained of feeling sick. Vomitted twice. Lay quietly for an hour or so then started complaining of stomach pains. Vomitted again around 11am. Perked up alot and statred to watch tv. Suddenly became very restless and agitated and asked for tv off. Fell asleep for roughly 1 hour. Woke suddenly complaining of bad headache, very upset. Headache got worse and ds very agitated and also complaining of lower back pain. Ds then starts complaining of the light hurting his eyes so I take him to a&e.
Wait in a&e for roughly 40 min and ds is very upset, feels sick, head really hurting. Gets taken through to cubicles where he is given calpol. This makes him vomit again. After vomitting he makes a sudden recovery, headache goes, no feeling sick and absolutly fine. Urine checked and clear, blood sugar fine and a&e doc says it is just a gastro viral type of thing.
Take ds home, he eats two crackers and then falls asleep for about 3 hours. Wakes complaining of a headache again. I give him calpol and water and move him into my bed. He sleeps ok, although fidgetty and complaining of feeling hot (no temp). Wakes the next day absolutly fine.

Sat 15th May - Ds fine all day been eating as normal. Goes to bed at 9pm and wakes at 10 upset and disorientated saying his chest feels funny and he feels sick. I calm him down and he goes back to sleep. Sleeps fine for rest of the night.

Sun 16th May - Ds shoots out of bed and runs into bathroom saying he feels sick again. He isn't sick. Gets into bed with me and complains of funny feeling in chest again. Lies quietly for about an hour and is then fine.

And thats it so far. A couple of points. The severe headache, vomitting then sleep I have always assumed is migraines. He has had probably one/two a year since he was about 4, but then has had 3 in the last few weeks.

Also the feeling funny in his chest. I think this is him worrying about actually being sick. Have explained to him that if he is sick it is fine, I will clear it up, clear him up and it is nothing to worry about.

Other than that, I have no clue what is going on. I think a gp is going to think I am slightly nuts tbh, but surely this is not normal ?

Mrs.Morgan,I can imagine how upset and worried you are.DS2 suffered severe migraines and vomiting from cheese.We didn't put it together for a while so he was really ill until we took foods out of his diet one by one.
My point is not to worry yourself sick but you know him better than anyone.You're right to have him seen and have a scan.
It could be something as simple as a food allergy in which case,it's very easily solved.
DS2 is a new child since we discovered his cheese allergy.He hasn't been sick once in a whole year.(including when other DCs had vomiting bug!)
Keep us posted Mrs.M,and Good luck.

Oh that is very interesting Mamalade.

Right crackers, let me think. The very first time he was ill on the 3&4th of May he'd definately not had crackers then. I remember because I asked my mum to buy some whilst she was out on the 6th May to give to them all for lunch because dd had a friend over.
No looking at the times he has been ill, i don't think the crackers are connected.

This week on the day he was really bad (thurs) he had only had honey cheerios for breakfast and then said he felt ill right away. He ate nothing else that day until we got home from a&e and he had two dry crackers and kept those down fine.

He was fine then until Sat night when he then complained of feeling sick. He'd had fish fingers, potatoe croquets and beans for dinner, plus a piece of my mums cake.

Today he has had an egg sandwich, 3 crackers with cheese spread on and a muller corner. Then dinner was roast chicken, mash, roast potatoes, green beans and carotts. He managed about half of his portion before he felt ill again.

Meant to add, I am glad that you sorted out your ds's problem mamalade

right, if it is food intolerance then, and for example if it were gluten that would be found in bread, cakes, biscuits, cereals, pasta....etc.

I'm not an expert here but there are many food related allergies and I believe some of them are difficult to pin down.

Anyway I hope the poor mite is feeling better and you can get him to the doc tomorrow. Good luck, let us know how you get on.

I would get your ds to the docs tomorrow and ask for him to be seen by paeds tomorrow as a possible admission. I hope that there is nothing wrong with your son but he need a full paediatric exam inc. neuro, your GP will struggle to do this in the time frame of an appointment so I really think he needs referral to the local general paeds department tomorrow.

Have you got a carbon monoxide detector in your home?

Thanks Mrs.M.
I'm not trying to make light of a very serious situation.Don't get me wrong,Your DS definitely needs to be seen as a matter of urgency,but just hang in there.There can be any number of reasons why a child starts to be so ill suddenly.
The photo-sensitivity and spontaneous bouts of chest pain ,while alarming, may all be syptomatic of something straightforward.
Please don't be overly worried,but do act promptly,for both your sakes.
please keep us posted.I will be thinking of you.

I have no idea what's wrong but you absolutely cannot go away without a referral so whatever it is can be properly checked out. So if needsbe use the 'broken record' technique with the GP, ie keep repeating that your DS has been consistently unwell and you want him to be seen by a paediatrician. Don't give up. If you are really stuck, get an appointment with a different GP at the practice. Good luck.

I'd say a referral to a paediatric neurologist is the way forward for you.

I 'd be back at a+e tbh. I have had to go twice myself with dd in thepast 2 weeks. we finally got listened to last week, and got admitted.

god luck op, do push. I know it's tough, i went to my gp 3 times aswell, before this and felt like a right idiot. you know your child.

I just wanted to also say do not leave without a referral. Someone needs to get to the bottom of this. As an optometrist I would say an eye check is really a waste of time. These are not visual headache type symptoms.

the stinky belching, vomitting and diarrhoea made me think of the time I had giardiasis. Just another thing to bear in mind... i caught it in indonesia, i'm not sure how prevalent it is here. it lasted weeks and weeks, with symptoms coming and going. i ignored it and eventually it went away. i hope you get a sensible gp response tomorrow.

By Euro Sun 16-May-10 22:45:06
Have you got a carbon monoxide detector in your home?

This is exactly what I was going to post. As for the rest of the family not having symptoms...is there a boiler or something in his room?

Re-reading your OP, his 'episodes' seem to occur at night-I'm assuming he's in his bedroom. I'd be checking this out.

When I was young we had a carbon monoxide leak- I remember headaches that brought a sort of queasiness with them.

Thanks again for all of the posts.

Well we had another rough night. Ds vomitted at around ten thirty and then had dioreah 3 times throughout the night.

He has now woken full of the joys of spring again . It is all so weird.

Wrt carbon monoxide, the boiler is in the kitchen and is serviced every year as the house is owned by a housing association. It was last serviced in Feb i think.

I saw giardiasis mentioned on another site, but I cannot think where on earth ds would have got it from.

Someone else mentioned salmonella but at home we all tend to eat exactly the same meals so it would be odd if ds had it and no one else.

I am ringing for an apppointment in a mo. Not sure what I am going to say yet tbh. I am not sure where to start really.

Have you heard of cyclical vomiting syndrome here I know a couple of children with CVS and the symptoms sound familiar. I just picked the first link google threw up so it may be worth looking in more detail.

Say your son has had D&V and severe headaches for weeks and they need to be checked out. Insist on an appointment. Tell them you will ring the PCT and complain if they refuse. Then when you get in go through the list of what's happened like you did here. Keep asking for a referral till they give you one. Repeat the same sentence over and over if necessary. Don't let them talk you into coming back next week if it's still this bad or similar. Just stay where you are till you get a referral. Good luck.

Yes i saw something about that when googling yesterday. The site I saw didn't mention dioreah though.

Ds has just had another bout of dioreah too.

Have made an appointment for 9:50, just going to dunk ds in the bath before we go.

Oh poor ds what a rotten night.

Good luck at drs - just keep asking and asking for a referral - "my son is really unwell. this has been going on for weeks and is getting worse. I am not prepared to wait out another week of him being ill and come back to see you {GP} next week to ask the same thing. My son is unwell, he needs to be checked thoroughly by a specialist." and repeat until referral gained. do not leave the GP's room until he/she agrees.

Thank's, I feel stupidly nervous.

Am having troule getting ds to drink anything this morning now. He has eaten a piece of toast but not had a drink.

His dad is going with me to the appointment. We are seperated and don't get on that well but he was with me when ds was really poorly at a&e so he knows how bad he was. Plus ds has suffered one of his bad headaches whilst at his.

He definately needs checking out. Can I just say though the funny feeling in his chest may be similar to something I experienced after a vomiting bug a month or so again. My chest felt fluttery like my heart was racing only it wasn't my heart/chest it was actually my oesophegus that had been irriated by the vomiting, when looking at diagrams I realised how high up the actual stomach is and what alot would describe as their chest.

Good luck MrsMorgan. Fingers crossed for your poor DS.

good luck mrs m. glad oyu have a bit of back up with ex. helps i think, when they have witnessed symptoms.

i may be going back in with my dd today. Keep strong, and keep pushing.

Good luck Mrs M. Hope you get some action today.

Weirdly, I read this thread this morning just before taking DS to the GP for his recurrent stomach aches. Nothing compared to what your poor DS is suffering from. I had never heard of abdominal migraines until this thread and that is what DS has been diagnosed with today.

All the best for your DS.

Right, we're back,, not sure how productive it was though tbh. I explained about his current symptoms and then explained the previous ones.

The g.p checked him all over and said that apart from slightly raised glands in his abdomen/groin he seemed perfectly fine, looked in good health etc.

He said that the raised glands could indicate an infection and so we have to try and get a stool sample tomorrow morning. Wrt the headaches and vomitting, he thinks they might well be migraines/abdominal migraines.

He has prescribed stemetil syrup for the sickness to be given as and when i think he needs it. He has had no nausea today so I am not planning on giving him any today.

He wants me to keep a diary of what he eats and also make a note of what was happeneing just before he has a bout of illness.

He was as confused as we are tbh i think.
I have no problem doing as he has said, but if the stool sample comes back clear and then ds is ill again then i will be demanding a refereal.

After the gp appointment I took him to get his eyes tested and they are absolutly fine.

Ds's dioreah sems to have stopped again now and he is back to his normal self again, for now lol.

Piratecat what did they say was wrong with your dd in the end ??

VengefulKitty - Sorry to hear your ds is suffering too. What did your gp suggest to help him ?