Wheezing and panting 1 year old

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DS is a bit sweaty and has been panting/breathing quickly all day and is wheezy with it. He has a bit of a temp, and is a little bit grumpy, but generally happy in himself and moving around quite a bit.

Any ideas if the panting/wheezing could be something serious? It just started early this morning.

thanks

yes, it could be something serious

ring NHS Direct, now

sound like it could be asthma, but as anyfucker say get help asap!

I think it's cold related, but called them anyway. They gave me some really sound advice and the number for the nearest walk in centre, so thanks for the suggestion!

hope dc is ok

best to get reassurance and advice from the professionals

from the little info you gave, that could have potentially been serious

oh.. just put him to bed, still panting. Its hard because DD is 2.8 so getting them both down there would be a nightmare. He seems fine in himself, it's just the breathing. Shit. Hope I haven't made the wrong decision.

Please take him to a&e now. Sounds just like my ds, who has now been diagnosed with a viral wheeze (like athsma). If his breathing isn't great now, it can get Much worse Very quickly. Please take him. Now. Can anyone look after your other ds?

I'm assuming your following the advice of nhs direct? If you're still worried then call gpooh they can make the decision on whether to see him or not (or make an appointment). If you need to go can a neighbour watch dd.

If you do go you wont be the only one clambering out of the car with kids in pyjamas!

x posts with pixie

I have taken ds to a&e 5 times since july, 3 times in the middle of the night. And after the first time, I knew what it was, how to deal with it etc. Still very stressful though. Cannot stress enough how quickly it can deteriorate. Please take him now, with ds2 if necessary, and get him seen and assessed.

120...you must keep checking on him

a raised respiratory rate in a young child is really not good

children get tired when they breathe fast much sooner than adults

have you looked at his chest when he is breathing? does it suck in at the notch at the front/bottom of his neck, imbetween the ribs or at the breastbone ? (this is called recession)

if his RR increases, he starts to look pale/exhausted or he starts to have recession, I think you should call the doctor

have a look here

good luck and hope he is ok

My DS had bronchiolitis and went very quickly from being okay (we went to A&E in the am and he was discharged) to being rushed to hospital by ambulance less than 12 hours later.

Here are the NHS warning signs:

While it is unusual for children to need hospital treatment for bronchiolitis, the symptoms can get worse very quickly. Dial 999 for an ambulance if your child develops any of these symptoms:

• Difficulty breathing or exhaustion from trying to breathe (you might see the muscles under your baby's ribs sucking in with each breath, and they may be pale and sweaty).
• Rapid breathing rate of more than 40 breaths a minute.
• Breathing stops for more than ten seconds at a time (known as recurrent apnoea).
• Skin begins to turn ashen or blue, especially around the lips or fingernails (known as cyanosis).

Count his breaths - if he is breathing fast, get him to hospital asap

agree my ds has been taken into hospital twice in december with a viral weeze (asthmaish 1 doc said!) they go downhill really quickly, especially when they are trying to rest. If you can i would take him, is he making any noises when he breathes out apart from a weeze, like ahuh...ahuh? Go and get his sat levels checked its better to be safe than sorry.

I'm going to go and count breaths in a min. What can they do for them apart from putting them in an oxygen tent?

Ok, seems to be between 30 and 40 bpm. He isn't struggling to breathe as far as I can tell, just breathing faster than normal and quite noisily. Noise is consitent with chestiness from cold rather than asthma type darth vadar stuff. My gut feeling is that he is ok for now and probably will get better rest here than sitting around in a draughty a&e.

that site link is good (but scary). thank you.

do you have any karvol in the house?

He can be monitored, oxygen levels checked, chest checked, be given steroids if necessary, be given the inhaler if necessary (almost certainly in your case), and told how to manage it at home once they have stabilised him. You don't want to find yourself having to dash out in the middle of the night because he is turning blue.

I have SO been where you are at the moment, thinking, "he's ok, he's sleeping, I don't want to disturb him", and then 2 hours later, "oh bollocks, he is REALLY struggling to breathe, wtf do I do now?" (cue mad dash in taxi to a&e...)

They gave my DS oxygen through tubes in his nose - was the only way to keep the oxygen levels up in his lungs because he wasn't getting enough in through breathing. Don't dismiss that as nothing much - it saved my DS's life!

I would carry on checking on him every couple of hours if I were you - particularly for cyanosis and recession. Actually I would sleep in the same room. Does he have a fever? Thinking about it, if his temp is normal, it is unlikely to be bronchiolitis.

thanks for your concern Pixie, yes I had an asthma attack once when I was 17 and was hospitalised for 3 days. I agree with you, I will never forget the feeling!

I'm going to let him rest for a bit as he was so shattered. If it begins to sound at all wheezy, I'll take him straight down; we are only 5 mins away.

sorry, by wheezy I meant asthma wheezy as opposed to phlem wheezy iykwim

nothing more upsetting than seeing your child with tubes up their nose..reduced me to a blubbering wreck, still get choked up just thinking about it.

Sorry - just realised you said he had a temp. If you're worried about 'bothering' them at A&E, call your out of hours GP. They will be able to advise you over the phone if they think you need to take him to A&E.