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46th day of continuous migraine?

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Xiaoxiong · 23/02/2026 10:55

Posting here in case anyone has ever heard of something like this, because even the paediatric consultant neurologists told us they have not seen it before.

DS14, never had a headache or migraine before and in good health (though with some mild hayfever and asthma in the past, mostly grown out of this). No one in the immediate family gets migraines either. No issues last term or over the Christmas holidays, went back to school ok for 4 days and then woke up at 3am on the 9th of January with what he described as the worst headache of his life and dry heaving. No auras or visual disturbances.

This has now continued for 46 nights, at 3am every night like an alarm clock and it just hasn't stopped. He has had only three nights "off", which were nights where he didn't sleep at all and kept himself awake as he was desperate to avoid the 3am headache. The last three nights he is now vomiting his dinner up as well. Increasingly he has pain while falling asleep. He has a headache and nausea all day plus discomfort reading or with light, but the big spike is every night around 3am.

He has had 2 MRIs which found a pineal gland cyst and a Rathke's cleft cyst near his pituitary, but the consultants seem to have concluded that these are incidental and not causing the issues. He's seen about 5 consultant paediatricians, 2 consultant neurologists (including privately), and they are all baffled. They keep asking about stress and lifestyle but he really isn't stressed generally (though he certainly is now, along with the rest of us) and has a generally healthy lifestyle with exercise, eats well, etc. Also this came on like a bolt from the blue, rather than ramping up slowly.

The only test he's had that's shown anything significant is a positive test for Epstein Barr virus (both the antibodies showing an old infection, plus the ones for an active infection so I guess that means a secondary/re-infection). That was many weeks ago now though. My hope was that this is all a weird manifestation of the virus and it will improve over time, but as the weeks wear on and he is getting slowly worse not better, that hope is dwindling.

He's had batteries of blood tests, all within normal ranges, neurological exams, ophthalmologist exam.

No painkillers or preventers have had any effect - ibuprofen, paracetamol, both together, ibuprofen lysine, sumatriptan, and we have done a week and a half on propranolol but that hasn't had any effect yet either.

He hasn't been able to go to school since before Christmas as every time he tries he has to run out of class to be sick or dry heave, or he is just in a daze. We are absolutely at our wits end - our next appointment with the consultant is on Friday but I fear their working diagnosis of "atypical acute chronic headache/migraine" is so vague - all the treatments take weeks and weeks to determine if there is any effect before we can try the next one. We have full private health insurance but as I am now discovering, it doesn't always help when the consultants both NHS and private have no idea what to do except try migraine prevention (while admitting they don't know if it's a migraine at all, or if it will work). I've asked for referrals to migraine clinics but the paediatric consultants want us to try front-line migraine prevention first.

Has anyone ever heard of something like this before? Any ideas gratefully received.

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Zazz101 · 23/02/2026 15:03

Can you message me privately? I’m not sure how to do it, but yes I had experience of similar with my child.

begonia27 · 23/02/2026 15:08

I’m so sorry - this must be really grim for him and for you. It sounds like they’ve done a thorough job of testing, but just to check - have they actually checked his intercranial pressure, or just assumed from the MRI and eye exams that there isn’t an issue? Has anyone done a sleep study? The sleep study seems critical here given the headache didn’t happen when he didn’t sleep. And has he tried caffeine treatment for hypnic headaches? And does it help to elevate the head end of his bed using a wedge pillow under his mattress? Sorry if those are really obvious but that’s where I would go first. It probably wouldn’t hurt to see a dentist to evaluate for TMJ issues / clenching / grinding as well, in your shoes I would be checking every avenue. Well done for keeping pushing for an answer. There will be one. I hope you can get to the bottom of it soon.

BlackSwan · 23/02/2026 17:02

Sending you a PM.

Fairy25 · 23/02/2026 17:09

I would try a chiropractor to see if they can help. Your poor child. It does seem like a panic response that he has now tuned his body into, it must have been really frightening so maybe they should try some sleeping tablets just to stop the 3 am wakenings?

cestlavielife · 23/02/2026 17:15

Kerp up the propanolol

If not working after two or three months ask to try another eg pizotifen

Ask for referral to child headache clinic
Keep a diary download from gosh headache site

There is an infusion to try but in patient (did not work for dd) dihydroergotamine

Xiaoxiong · 23/02/2026 19:04

@begonia27 lots of good ideas there, all of which I will add to my list of things to ask the consultant on Friday - thank you!

  • no one has suggested a sleep study - I will ask. They admitted him to the hospital overnight for observation but he was just in the main paeds ward with crying babies so that was one of the nights he never slept at all, and didn't have the big spike at 3am.
  • they have not tested the intercranial pressure directly, just assumed from the MRI and eye exams that all was ok - will ask about that too
  • we have wedged the head of his bed up from back when we thought it might be sinus problems - he says it's more comfortable in the daytime on his head, but it hasn't prevented the headaches or reduced their severity
  • we tried caffeine for hypnic headaches - a triple espresso before bed for a few nights - but it had no effect apart from making it harder to fall asleep, and then he got the big spike at 3am as usual anyway

@Fairy25 yeah it does sound like hypnic headache, but it sounds like that stops and starts he also has a headache (lower level) all day as well as the big 3am spike, so it never really stops. We have tried caffeine before bed and it had no effect. The panic idea is interesting because it is happening out of sleep each time but could be, he has told us that he is now very scared to go to sleep as he knows what's coming. But at the start, it happened out of the blue, he wasn't stressed or anxious about anything really. We have tried changing his room, staying elsewhere but it has happened everywhere he's been (including a weekend at Centre Parcs over half term). I have been recommended chiro/physio/osteopathy by a few people but have no experience with these things, did you suggest it because it could be a pinched nerve in his neck maybe?

@cestlavielife we will keep it up but after 46 days of this and him not having been to school since early January, another two to three months of this feels like torture to all of us. I will definitely ask about dihydroergotamine and whether it might be suitable - our main problem with the various treatments is that because this never ends, there is no onset and so no opportunity to take a medication right at the onset that will head it off at the pass. So many of the treatments they say "oh take it when you feel it starting" - well, it never starts or stops, he has a low-level headache and nausea all day and then a massive spike out of sleep at 3am. So maybe the dihydroergotamine would be something that would not matter if it was administered at onset or not. I really hope your DD is doing better now?

@BlackSwan @Zazz101 thank you - have PMed you both.

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Fairy25 · 23/02/2026 19:11

Yes it could be a pinched nerve so a good chiropractor is well worth a visit. I have had fantastic results with dizziness and lower back pain.

littlemisssunshine247 · 23/02/2026 19:17

Could the cyst near his pituitary be triggering cluster headaches?

cestlavielife · 23/02/2026 21:54

My dd chronic migraine went on and on before propanolol worked some for several years. Missed school.LEA supported with small group tutor then day hospital school. When it didnt work tried other preventives candesartan and infusion. Then was on cgrp injections. Tried various. Side effects facial pain.
Tried topomax was disaster. Now on regular botox injections and pizotifen. It can take time to find what works. Also has incidental mri finding.

The gosh neuro headache clinic team are great if you in catchment.

cestlavielife · 23/02/2026 21:56

LEA support for child missing school due to illness should have kicked in . Ask to speak to the relevant LEA officer

Xiaoxiong · 23/02/2026 22:41

He’s just had a big nosebleed tonight. He has never had nosebleeds but since this started he’s had at least 4 in the past month.

I’m starting to worry that they’ve missed something and gone to a migraine diagnosis too quickly. Are recurring nosebleeds a thing in migraines? I feel in the dark never having had one myself, nor DH.

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Realisation14 · 24/02/2026 07:51

I don't have any experience of this but I just wanted to say you have my full sympathy as this sounds so stressful to watch your child suffer continuously (and that I DO have experience with). I really hope something works soon xx

BlackSwan · 24/02/2026 11:49

I would ask for an urgent referral of your son’s case to whichever major hospital has a pituitary Multidisciplinary Team which deals with kids - or failing that the MDT at Great Ormond St.

Xiaoxiong · 24/02/2026 11:57

More vomiting in the night and today he started vomiting in the morning as well, so the paediatricians have called us back to hospital for assessment. Of course he is now sitting next to me in the waiting room eating crisps and laughing at YouTube shorts like nothing is wrong.

I am going to ask about multidisciplinary review, sleep study, raised pressure, test for Lyme disease, and pituitary team.

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cestlavielife · 24/02/2026 12:19

Good luck at least they looking into it all again.
Ask for re review of mri?

Hawkmoth · 24/02/2026 12:36

Have they ruled out cervicogenic headaches?

Xiaoxiong · 24/02/2026 15:54

We've just got back from the hospital and the consultant paediatrician as good as admitted that they're "struggling to know what to recommend" apart from stick with the propranolol, take magnesium and B12 (which he has been doing already), and manage stress and anxiety.

DS said that he is scared to go to sleep now as he "knows what's coming" so they seized upon that to say it's now being brought on by his own anxiety/psychological. Gave us a self-help headache resource pack with lots of kiddie stuff about naming your worries and mindfulness which I understand can help over time but is no help in the short term with a kid whose headaches and vomiting are increasing, not decreasing.

  • Refused to test for Lyme disease as they said it doesn't fit.
  • Refused a sleep study as "we're not there yet"
  • Said if referral to multidisciplinary team is going to happen, they'll want him to have "meaningfully engaged with psychological support" first which seems to mean the mindfulness self-help resource pack
  • Said they were happy with the MRIs as it didn't show anything to worry about. No re-reviews possible. (I am putting in a SAR to ask for them so I can have them reviewed privately but that can take up to 30 days)
  • When I mentioned a lumbar puncture to test for raised pressure (and meningitis, lyme disease etc) DS very unhelpfully said "oh no I don't want that, no needles!" and the paediatrician said that if he's 14 he can have input into his own care and that he wasn't going to force him to do it.
  • Said that him missing reaching out for the doorknob multiple times is probably tiredness/sleep deprivation
  • They will review again by telephone on Friday to see how he is doing

So now we are home again, DS has gone to bed, and we are onto night #48 with no further support. I feel like he is getting worse not better and they are kicking the can down the road hoping it just gets better with time, while labelling it "migraine" because that buys them time.

I could scream with frustration.

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Xiaoxiong · 24/02/2026 16:00

@Hawkmoth no one has mentioned cervicogenic but looking at the characteristics I think it doesn't quite fit with the alarm clock 3am spikes and vomiting.

Hypnic headache seems to match the best but they said it's very rare in children and the caffeine treatment doesn't affect them. I actually asked one of the other paediatricians about whether it could be hypnic headache a few weeks ago and she told me to stop googling.

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BlackSwan · 24/02/2026 16:51

This is shocking.

Getting a copy of his scan and private review is essential at this point. I wouldn’t wait for that before making an appointment with a private neurologist. Then email the team you’re currently dealing with & tell them that in view of the lack of proper escalation to an appropriate team they need to immediately make the scan available to your private consultant.

I’m so sorry - he’s obviously symptomatic & he’s being denied the proper follow up.

Separately take him to an ophthalmologist privately as well as an endocrinologist who deals with pituitary patients. Ie, in place of the MDT who should be consulted

handmademitlove · 24/02/2026 17:04

Has anyone looked at cortisol levels? 3-4am is a natural low point for cortisol and may be causing the headaches. Low cortisol can be caused by adrenal insufficiency eg Addison's, which can be triggered after an infection.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/addisons-disease/

Initial testing is a blood test around 9am - straightforward to do and easy to rule out. I would request this, particularly with the vomiting etc as well.

nhs.uk

Addison's disease

Find out about Addison's disease (primary adrenal insufficiency), including symptoms, causes and treatment.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/addisons-disease

cestlavielife · 24/02/2026 17:09

High street optician can screen for raised pressure in eye

Agree with private neuro for second opinion if you can though when we went thru this they had no new clues. However your ds is having some clear daily symptoms

Was it general paed or a neurologist?

Are you near london for gosh headache clinic neuro referral

cestlavielife · 24/02/2026 17:14

they said it's very rare in children and the caffeine treatment doesn't affect them

You could try a caffeine before bed? A small full fat coke?

Xiaoxiong · 24/02/2026 17:32

We've done a pepsi before bed twice, and a triple espresso before bed twice. No effect from the pepsi, the espresso kept him up late and then the 3am attack happened anyway. We didn't try actual caffeine tablets but might be worth a shot.

He's had both a high-street eye test and an opthalmologist eye test in hospital - both said they couldn't see any pressure.

Today was a consultant-level general paediatrician. We now have a private appointment with a consultant paediatric neurologist 2nd week of March. I will be doing an SAR for the MRIs and sending to the consultant neurologist for a private review. We are near London and could easily get to GOSH but they don't take private neurology referrals, only NHS, and our NHS trust refers to John Radcliffe not GOSH. And in any case the consultant here said "we're not there yet" to my request for a referral.

We also have an appointment with the national migraine centre in case they have ideas of other treatments (if this is migraine). They were absolutely lovely on the phone.

He's had blood tests for all endocrine markers and hormones - he had very low vit D, very high testosterone and the albumin and some of the bloods were a little elevated but they said not worrying and testosterone within range for a 14 year old boy. He did have a 9am cortisol test that was on the low end (according to AI!) but hospital docs said it was still within normal range. They really don't like it if we mention that we've used AI but until they start giving me better ideas I don't know what else to do.

To this day the only thing he's tested positive for was Epstein Barr virus (both an old infection, and a current re-infection) but that was back in early January.

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GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 24/02/2026 17:37

I knew someone years ago who as a child had cluster headaches - it was weeks and weeks of awful headaches before they were diagnosed. Maybe worth mentioning if it hasn't been ruled out already?

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/cluster-headaches/

nhs.uk

Cluster headaches

Find out about cluster headaches, which are severe attacks of pain on 1 side of the head, including the symptoms, when to get medical help and how they’re treated.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/cluster-headaches