9 yo will not sleep!

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My just turned 9 year old son, struggles to fall asleep at a reasonable time!

we have a well establish bedtime routine which starts around 7pm. (No TV after 4.30pm)
Magnesium gummies, shower, reading in a calmly list room, then lights out at 8pm.

He’s still always wide awake till 9.30pm onwards every night!
He’s not up and down but I can always hear him moving about in bed, unsettled.

is this ‘normal’ or is there anything that’s worked to help him fall asleep earlier?

this poor sleeping habit is affecting his mood as he’s ratty.

thank you 🤍

You say “the kids”. How old is the other one? Are you putting him to bed at the same time as a younger child? 9pm is early for a 9 year old. He’s probably not tired. And why is he waking at 5 - is there a younger child waking him up? Is he in his own room or does he share?

9pm is a late bedtime for a 9yo if they are getting up at 7am.

Yes my child sleeps 9 but wake up nearly 8

9pm might be a late bedtime for your child. It clearly isn't for hers, since he's still wide awake at that time.
When I was 9, granted about three thousand years ago, I was doing musical things in the evening that didn't even finish until that time. Children seem to be put to bed a lot earlier these days.