single mmr

[Lina15]

plz no negatives
people that have had experience with single mmr vaccine what ones did you opt for ?
and can you have rubella single dose later in life (if planning a pregnancy as i heard thst got stoppers? but i as an adult had rubella about 2 years ago

It was one more injection but overall less vaccine. I made my choices in a different time and my kids were fully vaccinated. Like it or not, single vaccines worked for us. There’s really no reason for anyone else to judge negatively.

You didn't- you had the MMR if it was through an NHS GP

Are you mixing up the pertussis (whooping cough) vaccine with rubella OP? Because that is given as a single vaccine to pregnant women.

Bizarrely this came up on my twitter timeline today written by Blimi Marcus regarding Wakefield. Have a read @Lina15

I think you’re getting an unnecessary hard time, like everyone you’re just looking to make an informed decision and back when all of this was in the news it was probably the last thing you were reading as you were too young to be interested.

It's hardly an "informed decision" if the OP would rather believe a discredited doctor and an actor over scientifically researched evidence.

Maybe when she goes to the dentist she can have a hairdresser give her a filling?

I split all the vaccines and my gp was more than happy. They could see the benefit was vaccinated children

They are nicer ways to explain if a source of information isn’t reliable

If we can get these conversations out in the open and dealt with kindly we could make a difference. Treating people so nastily just makes the issue worse when you could actually educate and inform someone sensitively and kindly

I agree that vaccinated is better than unvaccinated. The issue is that licenced single vaccines are no longer available, and the OP thinks a discredited doctor and an actor know more than scientists do @Caramelstar.

I agree OP is getting a hard time

OP isn’t anti vax just anxious and it’s like some posters would like the thread deleted or the conversation shut down any way possible. Having worries that could be alleviated with good factual formation isn’t a problem

Hopefully OP can get some reliable information on here to help with the decision

There is plenty of reliable information out there @Caramelstar
Reams and reams of it.

But why would anyone dithering about vaccinations not talk to someone who is medically/scientifically qualified to put their mind at rest? What goes through thei mind when they think "I know, I'll see what this actor/influencer has to say about it". There is a lot of dangerous misinformation out there.

I was in two minds when DD was a baby so I talked to a doctor, not an unqualified person.

There is loads of peer reviewed evidence available.

I think the issue is, as has been pointed out earlier, just about all new parents these days aren't old enough to remember how awful some of these diseases are that vaccines have more or less wiped out or reduced the prevalence.

I fund raise for a charity that is seeking to eradicate polio worldwide. I remember seeing kids in calipers, images of rows and rows of children in iron lungs are imprinted in my memory.

Measled is an awful illness. I had it and it affected my eyesight. I had German measles. I wasn't very ill with it, but it can cause defects in unborn babies. I know someone who had an abortion because she contracted German measles in early pregnancy.

And OP has posted here so is clearly having difficulty accessing something that will help?

If anyone has any good links etc please post them to help OP rather than going on rants about anti vaxxers.

Hmm. With every other poster on mumsnet having at least one ASD child it does make you wonder…?!

I was anti vax and believed that for years.

In the 10 years I didn’t vaccinate - ALL of my dc were diagnosed with autism. In the circles I socialised in (anti vax community) many others experienced the same . We all knew then it wasn’t the vaccines . I then fully vaccinated my dc

If there is something increasing ASD it’s not vaccines!

I thought this too but had mine a few weeks ago and the whooping cough jab given in pregnancy actually covers polio, diphtheria and tetanus also. The nurse who administered said it isn't talked about as much and is calling the whooping cough jab because there isn't firm evidence the others cross the placenta and give baby protection where as the whooping cough does. She said it's given to act as a top up vaccine for the others.

Yes indeed. Maybe it’s because there are more older parents these days? Plastics in the food chain?

I don’t think the Covid vaccine induced cases of myocarditis, heart attacks, strokes, etc. are helping the case for childhood vaccination unfortunately.

At a time when the NHS doesn’t have two pennies to rub together I am wondering why all I’m seeing on TV and hearing on the radio is NHS ad after ad about how to spot a stroke, not to delay seeing your GP if you have certain (cancer) symptoms, etc. It really has gone into overdrive and makes me wonder.

Lots of things could account for that. Better access to disgnosis. Armchair diagnosis. Changes in our environment. Wider understanding and awareness of Autism generally. Better recording of statistics. etc etc.

@Sendbobsandvagene

Yes indeed. Maybe it’s because there are more older parents these days? Plastics in the food chain? Better recognition means more diagnoses, rather than labelling a child naughty etc. Also a diagnosis means access to more help so parents more willing to push for one.

I don’t think the Covid vaccine induced cases of myocarditis, heart attacks, strokes, etc. are helping the case for childhood vaccination unfortunately. Covid causes myocarditis etc in much higher rates than the vaccine.

At a time when the NHS doesn’t have two pennies to rub together I am wondering why all I’m seeing on TV and hearing on the radio is NHS ad after ad about how to spot a stroke, not to delay seeing your GP if you have certain (cancer) symptoms, etc. It really has gone into overdrive and makes me wonder. Earlier diagnosis means a better outcome for the patient and is cheaper to treat than a later diagnosis. Public health campaigns have been around for years. Believe it or not, there are people who care about wanting a good outcome for patients, it's not a conspiracy to wonder about. Also an aging population, means cancer and strokes are more likely.

@Sendbobsandvagene More people are being diagnosed with autism because the criteria has widened. It hasn't been until the last 30 or so years that they've realised that autism can be present without learning disabilities, or that girls can have what used to be called Asperger's Syndrome. Adults are being diagnosed in record numbers: acamh.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jcpp.13505

Autism is genetic. It's not plastics or older parents that causes autism, autistic parents cause autistic children.

I thought the same as others, other than measles the only licensed vaccine now is the MMR. I didn’t need a top up but when I was pregnant (a lot longer than 2 years ago) I remember the MW saying that if my rubella status wasn’t at the correct level (sorry not sure the correct terminology) I’d need to get the MMR so I would be surprised if you had a single vaccine

My decision to split the vaccines was nothing to do with autism (which had long since been debunked) but to do with some rumblings at the time about adjuvants (used to bind more than one vaccine together) causing bowel issues. This has now also been debunked I believe, or the risk is small. However at the time it upset me as no parent wants to willing do something that may harm their child.

That said, I also understand the importance to vaccinate and didn't want to take any risks by not doing so. The Dr who vaccinated my children told me he offered the service to capture parents exactly like me, because at the end of the day vaccinating with individual vaccines still gives your child the same level of protection.

It's a real shame the single vaccines are no longer available. More choice means more vaccinated children! I paid privately for them at the time so I wouldn't expect the NHS to cover it.

I wasn't even able to buy the measles vaccine privately, although that was over 10 years ago. Is it now available again in the UK?

Tbh I would prefer if they were available to buy separately for those with concerns, as the alternative is that they have none at all. mmr uptake is lowering

You're not very intelligent are you? 🤣

My best friend and her dh had no genetic predisposition to autism and her daughter shortly after the mmr lost all her words and started to stare into space.
She no longer responded to her name and after a while started to bang her head on the walls. She has a permanent mark on her forehead. She eventually was diagnosed as autistic .

I guess if you ask people like that, who didn't even know what autism was ,they would have a whole different take on mmr.

Me on the other , got my dd jabbed as per schedule.