Private Family Law ADHD assessment or Ed Psy?

[mazzat85]

Hi,
Can anyone advise please… so as the post says I'm going through private family law proceedings.
I had tried to have an ADHD assessment done on my child but their dad keeps blocking it from going ahead.
I'm now at the point in wondering weather it would be better for me to seek an assessment through an Ed Psychologist who will do assessments for ADHD and say weather my child meets the criteria for a diagnosis of ADHD or not.
When I get to court I want to use the ADHD diagnosis or the Ed psy report to show that my ex has stopped me from being able to get our child help.
If I go with an Ed Psy they won't be able to diagnose ADHD but will be able to say weather my child meets the criteria for a diagnosis and say weather they would recommend an ADHD assessment happens etc.
Obviously court pages say that the judge needs to take into consideration when making a final order:
Child's physical, emotional and educational needs
And
Child's age, sex, background and any characteristics which the court considers necessary
If I was to get an Ed psy assessment/report of the report said child meets criteria for a diagnosis will the judge take that into consideration
Ie ' Ed psy has done assessment and said child meets criteria for a diagnosis of ADHD I have to take ADHD into consideration when making a final order'
Or will the judge just look at it as if the child has no SEND needs at all even if the report says child meets the criteria?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you

Having read the thread, yes this is the same case. And when I was reading another thread by OP I knew that this was about being accused of fabricated illness but didnt want to say

OP has now acknowledged that there are concerns about this but rather than look at her difficulties is insisting on her child being labelled and possibly medicated

This thread should be removed, OP already has SSD involved and solicitor.

@Imitatingdory

Sometimes Legal proceedings do influence the care CAMHS provide or whether CAMHS seek the courts advice/permission first. Of course it is not straight forward and some DC will be seen, but some referrals are refused because of the proceedings. Here are 2 examples of areas where legal proceedings do sometimes influence whether a referral is accepted - one and two.

The legal proceedings are not the reason for refusing assessment, but the reason for legal proceedings may be. In this case where there is a question over factitious illness I think it's quite reasonable to assume that's the reason, rather than simply 'family court' - it's about doing what is best for the child, and in this case it looks like it is not an ADHD assessment.

Correct. OP also claimed on another thread that the reason her child was open on a CHIN plan was due to her and the child's father not getting on/legal proceedings. Children are not open to CHIN plans for those reasons alone, its where a child's needs are seen not to be met.

whywhythough which is why I posted it is not straight forward and used the words sometimes and some referrals.

@Imitatingdory

whywhythough which is why I posted it is not straight forward and used the words sometimes and some referrals.

And I was talking now and this referral, which has not been refused because of the family court. It simply hasn't. Nobody is refusing to medically assess a child who needs to be assessed simply because they family are going through court.

You are splitting hairs about the OP’s wording. Legal proceedings in and of themselves may not be the reason behind the refusal but the reason behind the legal proceedings as you say may be.

OP you could have applied for a specific issue order when DC’s father first refused an assessment.

I started by paying privately for a QB test (£250) which was off the scale! Then we did the Conner forms. A bit arse about face but if the QB test hadn't been so conclusive I wouldn't have started the formal route.

@Imitatingdory

You are splitting hairs about the OP’s wording. Legal proceedings in and of themselves may not be the reason behind the refusal but the reason behind the legal proceedings as you say may be.

What OP means and what you are suggesting OP means are very different. The factitious illness thing hasn't come from OP wanting to have her child assessed for ADHD. The reason the assessment is not going ahead is not because are in court, children are not denied medical assessment be sue their parents are in court. The refusal to assess is almost certainly die to the fact the child does not meet the criteria, no matter how determined OP is for that to be true.

It's not about splitting hairs here, wording is important.

The reason the assessment is not going ahead is not because are in court, children are not denied medical assessment be sue their parents are in court.

The reason the referral has been refused may be because of the ongoing proceedings, not the proceeding themselves but the reasons behind them. As the OP hasn’t returned to the thread after the more recent posts it’s not possible for them to clarify.

I agree wording is important, but as the OP hasn’t returned to the thread recently they haven’t clarified. It’s well within possibilities OP posted ”they will not assess child while we are going through family court” as a shortened version of meaning the case specific reasons behind why there are legal proceedings, especially since that wasn’t her original question. Since OP hasn’t posted either way I don’t know how you can say for definite the OP doesn’t mean this.

I’m not suggesting anything, let alone suggesting something different to the OP, I am saying you are inferring things from the OP’s wording which may not be accurate. OP posted the referral was refused based on ongoing legal proceedings, which may be accurate, not the proceeding themselves but the reasons behind them, as shown by the links I posted to 2 example CAMHS criteria. If, as OP posted, CAMHS will assess afterwards it’s unlikely it is solely due to no needs needing assessment, especially if SALT, specialist teaching service, school and GP think an assessment is necessary.

The factitious illness thing hasn't come from OP wanting to have her child assessed for ADHD.

I didn’t post it had.

The reason the referral has been refused may be because of the ongoing proceedings, not the proceeding themselves but the reasons behind them.

Which is exactly what I said.

Yes, I know you did. I posted “Legal proceedings in and of themselves may not be the reason behind the refusal but the reason behind the legal proceedings as you say may be.”

You posted “The reason they are not assessing is not the family court.” And I replied that in some circumstances it can and provided links to criteria. You posted what you did then I replied it is “why I posted it is not straight forward and used the words sometimes and some referrals”. You then replied with ”I was talking now and this referral, which has not been refused because of the family court. It simply hasn't. Nobody is refusing to medically assess a child who needs to be assessed simply because they family are going through court.” Which may not be correct, the OP hasn’t clarified. I was also posting about “now and this referral” which may have been refused because of the ongoing legal proceedings.

Not that I think the OP will return to the thread looking at her previous posts.

Goodness you are so determined to be right

I know what I meant the very first time I said the reason is not the court and that still remains.

Have a great afternoon.

No, not determined I am right, after all it seems we agree some referrals are sometimes refused due to the ongoing legal proceedings, just explaining my point in reply to your posts.