DD has seizure of bangs head

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Looking for advice, when my DD was 9 Months she fell of her changing unit (I was right next to her I know I'm a shit mum) and had a seizure, she bumped the back of her head very softly a few weeks lately and had another fit, she's 2 now, she decided to roll of the sofa today and banged the back of her head and had ANOTHER fit, she goes really limp and starts snorting and when she comes out of it she is really confused and dazed

Hospital have said it can be 'normal' as long as she doesn't throw up more than once she should be fine ! Surely it can't be normal that when ever my DD bumps the back of her head no matter how hard or soft she has an episode ? Thank god she didn't throw up today but still very very disturbing to see and have to go into nurse mode of my own child

What kind of tests did they do? Scan/mri? I wouldn’t think that was normal at all! Can your GP get you a referral for some investigations?

@HerRoyalNotness they did nothing ! They said that doing an MRI at her age could do more damage than good, I'm taking her to GP in the morning to demand a scan! She's meant to be starting nursery in January at this rate she will not be going !

Just want to say as well NM or DM this post is not to be used ANYWHERE else !!

Doesn’t sound normal. Go back to your gp. But is this only the third time it’s happened in 15 months?

I don’t think it’s unreasonable that you ‘go into nurse mode’ to look after your own dc. Perhaps if she hadn’t fallen off her changing table she wouldn’t have these fits.

@eelbecomingforyou when she fell of her changing table she fell on her face and got carpet burn on her nose, she didn't have a real seizure then it was more of an episode of shock. It's only when she bangs the back of her head she has a proper seizure.

What I mean about nurse mode is that I wish I could scream and cry like my DH but I can't I have to treat her and try and stop it.

She must have banged her head more than 3 times in 2 years though, so it can’t be every time she bangs her head, even softly. Mine seem to bang their heads every 3 minutes...!

Keep pushing until you get some action.

eel really unhelpful!

I’m in the US and after 3 seizures they start alllll the tests to find out what’s going on. One of the upsides to paid for health care I suppose.

I hope you get some answers

May be a specific spot on her head though, that she has to bang, that causes them

It's normal for children (and adults) to have seizures after head injuries, but normally a LOT of force is required. I would certainly be requesting a referral to the first seizure clinic to rule everything else out and not relying on a GP!

@PotteringAlong no she doesn't really tend to bang her head THANKS GOODNESS ! She just tends to fall over on her front more than anything so when she does hit her head it's very scary x

@HerRoyalNotness thanks, my doctors surgery are absolutely brilliant so I'm going to take her in tomorrow! The doctors at A&E just fob us of and basically told us to stop bringing her in if it happens! Obviously this is the first time in months she has hit her head and it's happened again so I'm glad everyone agrees with me it's not normal!

@FruitCider yes I'm going to ask to be referred tomorrow, i would expect something to happen form a hard fall but she literally rolled of the sofa it isn't a high up sofa and I grabbed her so it wasn't as big of a hit, she really shouldn't be having a fit from his little she banged her head!

She even tripped over at my nephews christening a few weeks back and hit her forehead on a metal chair leg! She didn't even flinch just carried on running around so defo something with the back of the head

An mri does not cause any harm?my ds had one age 2.5, he was only sedated, it was a brain scan too. I would ask for one.

Your dh screams and cries?? helpful.

And you can’t stop a fit. You just have to wait until it’s over.

But you says she fell on her face and got carpet burn on her nose, she didn't have a real seizure then it was more of an episode of shock. It's only when she bangs the back of her head she has a proper seizure

Then how can the original fall off the changing table have damaged the back of her head??

Are you sure she is having a seizure?

Did they tell you what they think is going on? Obviously haven’t seen your child but it sounds a lot like reflex anoxic seizures to me - if the a&e doctors were confident that’s what’s going on then it is common and harmless. ECG maybe useful, but scans are usually not necessary (and at this age will probably mean a general anaesthetic which is not without risk, so if the diagnosis is clear then it’s probably not going to add anything).

I certainly don’t think you should go to your GP and “demand” any particular investigation - perhaps make an appointment with your GP to ask their advice using their years of training.

Sorry I've just realised he was actually 3.5, but still. You can have an mri when you are pregnant even so they don't cause any harm, that's a load of clap trap.

@eelbecomingforyou no I don't know she is definitely having a seizure because I'm not a doctor and a doctor hasn't seen it happening, when the paramedics got there the first time it had stopped. Obviously I know you can't 'stop it happening' but I try and bring her out of it once she comes round. I don't know if the first fall has caused any of it, I never said it did. I'm trying to build a picture of what has happened so people can give me advice.

I have something very similar to this with my little boy. It's terrifying but as an hour or so later he's fine they aren't concerned and never follow up. Makes me feel uneasy but ensure always just say it's normal. Sorry your little girl keeps having these episodes z

Just out of interest OP, do you ever call an ambulance?

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@countrybunny the first time I did yes as I'd never seen anything like it and she brought up all of her breakfast, plus she was only really a baby! The second time we took her to a&e in the car, the doctor was nice but then told us he would never have kids because he sees 'stuff like this' all the time and doesn't know how parents deal with it, Great advice.....

@OhNoGroken thank you, you have been very helpful...

@someonekillbabyshark I only ask as I called an ambulance first time as it's truly terrifying but felt such a time waster. Second time did A and E. I hope it can be resolved

You’re absolutely welcome. I obviously cannot read the minds of the a&e doctors but this is my best guess based on what you have said and bearing in mind I haven’t seen your child. A small bump to the head is the classic trigger for them, doesn’t mean any hard has been done to the head - you’re certainly not the only parent whose child has fallen from a bed or changing table etc even whilst you’re right there - don’t best yourself up over that bit!

I was going to suggest that it's either a breath holding episode or a reflex anoxic seizure as well. Some children do breath hold in shock if they've had a minor bump. It's not dangerous. But very very scary